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$hoguN

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I do agree with that, although I think he shiuld have joined Utd, Fergason would have made him a much better player, and kept him grounded amongst all of the hype.

I think he would have been in and out of the Utd team as he would keep moving into Rooney's space
 

$hoguN

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The thing is we don't know who will manage Chelsea long term. I can see them spending hugely and that will include the manager. And this may well make them into the fluent exciting passing team roman is dreaming of

Chelsea just don't ply beautiful attacking football as they do not have the players to play that way. They lack a right back capable of over lapping, a CB who can bring the ball out of defence and wingers willing to play the early ball. Also when they have tried to change this the managers have ended up being sacked as the old guard at the club start kicking off.
 

dn013

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whatever. all things great with the mighty spurs eh.. butter would not melt. all top clubs will talk the talk with reagrds ffp rules but at end of day they will do what they can and by all means necessary to get up on rivals and get ways round it.

I think you are right, FFP will fail in regards to the big clubs and will merely punish smaller clubs that UEFA will have no concerns about screwing over.

However, we have our own financial model - a financial model that is similar to almost every other club in the world. Unfortunately Chelsea and City are owned by two idiots who drain ill-gotten money from their home economies and give them to a bunch of football players. (Honestly, City's owner is taking hundreds of millions of profit from the government controlled oil fields and instead of giving the money to the dirt poor immigrants in Abu Dhabi he is giving it in excess to football players - think how disgusting that is) Fact of the matter is that we cannot compete with them, not because of "desire" but because of basic finances.
 

Misfit

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Doesn't matter really. If Mata continues his form, Hazard justifies even half of the hype and Torres finds something approaching his first 2 seasons at Pool, those 3 players will win them roughly 20 games alone. If Marin does turn out to have some genuine talent hiding somewhere, chance of a title push. Behind Citeh at least though, maybe even Yanited.

Whether or not they or us can finish in that 3rd spot is the question.

We should be aiming for top 4 with no fear. We can handle Pewel and are a match for assnal. If assnal are RVP-less, whether through him leaving or his labia finally breaking again, we'll handle them as well.

The Joker in the pack in Newcastle. Can they make another couple of brilliant signings? If they can they might think about somethign a bit more than just top 6 again.
 

kdspur

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I think you are right, FFP will fail in regards to the big clubs and will merely punish smaller clubs that UEFA will have no concerns about screwing over.

However, we have our own financial model - a financial model that is similar to almost every other club in the world. Unfortunately Chelsea and City are owned by two idiots who drain ill-gotten money from their home economies and give them to a bunch of football players. (Honestly, City's owner is taking hundreds of millions of profit from the government controlled oil fields and instead of giving the money to the dirt poor immigrants in Abu Dhabi he is giving it in excess to football players - think how disgusting that is) Fact of the matter is that we cannot compete with them, not because of "desire" but because of basic finances.

yes i understand that but we cant compete on football terms either. we didnt make champions league to be even in with shout either no matter how small. money is part in any transfer prob 99% in fact but its not like we can challenge next year anyway is it. we have not done that in 40 years. people on here say nothing will happen tillw e build new stadium, i have to be honest i dont think big players will come after that is built either. success on field will open doors to all sorts but we have to gamble with a right manager is charge every now and then to make team bigger and better. harry is doing that on a shoe string and a bit of luck but he is demanding money be spent.
 

faulks

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but lose top players in the mean time who see we are getting no where and not spending to be the best. its tricky granted but just plodding along and picking up freebies here and there and not bringing any top player in to complement what we got and keep players motivated and ambitious to do well in our colours should be paramount.

i mean ill keep stating why did harry say few weeks back that spurs need to be bold and spend and go for it this summer?? whatever personal reason he might have the fact is spurs need 3, 4 top players and cud have a real go at title. it wont be done though

If you bring in 3 or 4 top players, they are all likely to demand 100k+ a week. You do that, then Bale, VDV, Walker, Sandro, etc will all start to ask why they can't be on 100k a week?

It has happened before at other clubs (funnily enough Chelsea springs to mind)

Ultimately it is not up to Harry, it comes down to Levy and how he can balance the books. Like I said previously, we are not going to break our wage structure, so simply paying a new striker 120k a week is not going to happen because of the knock on effects on the rest of the squad. Does it make signing top players impossible? Probably not, it just puts us in a disadvantage compared to clubs who can splash the cash.
 

InOffMeLeftShin

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Again, as I said in the twitter thread eved if they sign Hazard or not they aren't so frightening. Hazard v Bale, Lennon v Marin, VDV v Mata, Torres v Kane. It's all much of a muchness and if anything we have the edge given that Marin isn't very good and Bale is much more suited/adapted to the Premiership than Hazard. Of course, Chelsea won't be able to play all of those guys together anyway because lampard and Terry are running the side so they take key positions (neither being as good as our option).

Good luck to them, they're going to need it because we are going to improve and our key players are going to get better, where as theirs are well into decline.
 

StartingPrice

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To be honest though, gutted as I am this this thread had so much optimism at the start, and rightly so from the comments that he made, whoever he joins, it will be superb to see such a talent in the PL.

I am praying with all my might that he flops badly at Chelsea (in particular).
 

dn013

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yes i understand that but we cant compete on football terms either. we didnt make champions league to be even in with shout either no matter how small. money is part in any transfer prob 99% in fact but its not like we can challenge next year anyway is it. we have not done that in 40 years. people on here say nothing will happen tillw e build new stadium, i have to be honest i dont think big players will come after that is built either. success on field will open doors to all sorts but we have to gamble with a right manager is charge every now and then to make team bigger and better. harry is doing that on a shoe string and a bit of luck but he is demanding money be spent.

By your logic City would never have been able to work their way to the Champions Leagu because they were only mid table when they started spending massive. Why won't building a new stadium have a similar effect on us: new stadium -> bigger wages -> better players -> better on field performance -> better players -> better on field performance etc...
 

lillywhites61

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Chelsea just don't ply beautiful attacking football as they do not have the players to play that way. They lack a right back capable of over lapping, a CB who can bring the ball out of defence and wingers willing to play the early ball. Also when they have tried to change this the managers have ended up being sacked as the old guard at the club start kicking off.

Time will tell I suppose, all depends on who the buy and bring in?
 

kdspur

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If you bring in 3 or 4 top players, they are all likely to demand 100k+ a week. You do that, then Bale, VDV, Walker, Sandro, etc will all start to ask why they can't be on 100k a week?

It has happened before at other clubs (funnily enough Chelsea springs to mind)

Ultimately it is not up to Harry, it comes down to Levy and how he can balance the books. Like I said previously, we are not going to break our wage structure, so simply paying a new striker 120k a week is not going to happen because of the knock on effects on the rest of the squad. Does it make signing top players impossible? Probably not, it just puts us in a disadvantage compared to clubs who can splash the cash.

walker, sandro bale and vdv deserve to be payed well but its not a sweet shop!! give them a contract that deserves their performances and they are happy with but if they keep coming back for more tell them to do one, simple!

im not saying spurs go out and sign 4 20m +players and all players on 150k a week. im saying maybe splash out on a striker and few players of the ilk of vertongthen for around the 10 million mark and make a statement.
we have not signed alot of top players in one summer in a long long long time if any. its def not going to chnage now with or without the modric money but it should be cos for first time in 40 years spurs have a half decent side.
on top of all this is the modric situation. he will play for croatia in few weeks and soon as its over he will demand transfer. its blatantly obvious. what we going to do with that money!? at least 30 million.. i have a fair idea but afraid to say on here in case im further mugged off as someone who has no idea and how spurs run a tight finacial model and levy is a god type nonsense.
 

Cloud_Nine

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This "he doesnt know who the manager is" shit irks me. Perhaps they have their manager already in RDM just haven't confirmed it? Perhaps they are getting Pep? Whatever the case, I'm guessing they'll have told Eden during the talks who is coming in
 

jermaine_defoe

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Is there any chance of him joining us do you know? Probably pick Chelski, but Vertonghen should put in a good word and get him to join him at Spurs i say !;)
 

srups34

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Is there any chance of him joining us do you know? Probably pick Chelski, but Vertonghen should put in a good word and get him to join him at Spurs i say !;)
Knowing our luck, he'll probably convince Vertonghen to join him at Chelsea.
 
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