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Shouldn't Madrid have had a penalty?
I think it would have been harsh if you're talking about the handball situation. However they had a perfectly good goal disallowed.
Shouldn't Madrid have had a penalty?
Depends on whether the defender got the ball first before you kicked. If you kicked him in the head without getting the ball, most likely a red.
I'm with Roy Keane on this one.
Studs into the body is a red card unless the ref shows leniency in this case he didn't.
Depends on whether the defender got the ball first before you kicked. If you kicked him in the head without getting the ball, most likely a red.
You'd never get a red for that though and I can't remember a single incident where a player has got a red in that situation.
If a ball had just bounced up at above knee height and the striker was going to shoot, but as he did so the defender got in and got kicked himself, is that a red card? Of course it isn't.
PLayers should be required to be aware of their surroundings yes, but if they aren't it shouldn't necessarily be a red card.
I don't remember it either, but it's dangerous play.
Point being, Nani, deliberatly or not, caught the player chest high with studs up - that is always giving a reason to book/send off someone.
It is unfortunate though, I agree with that.
But, never mind, we've been fucked over with similiar things ourselves at Old Trafford over the years.
Roy Keane himself ruined a mans career on purpose and didn't get punished properly either.
Find it all rather amusing, that the fans who are so used to getting their own way, didn't ;-)
Graeme Souness also agrees it was a red card which I found surprising.
As they said in the after match discussion, 'intentionality' is not part of the decision.FIFA Law - "A player is guilty of serious foul play if he uses excessive force or brutality against an opponent when challenging for the ball when it is in play. Excessive force means that the player has far exceeded the necessary use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent."
Definitely not excessive force and I wouldn't exactly call it brutality when his eyes were on the ball whole time. It was a bit dangerours to be fair, but no more then a yellow when it was completely unintentional. If that was a Spurs players sent off we would be furious.
And if it had been Bale, in a similar situation, would that still 'nail it'?
I'm still angry about the shit decisions that cost us in the first leg against Sevilla six years ago. Shit, I'm still seething about the decisions that cost us against Benfica 50 years ago! Nani may be a ****, and Beetroot-Face may have had a multitude of dodgy decisions go in his team's favour, but that doesn't alter the fact that clueless deadbeats from Mickey Mouse leagues should be nowhere near major competitions.
If we accept that was a red card for Nani, wouldn't the same have applied when Lloris clattered Michu at the Lane earlier this season?
He was certainly in danger of injuring his opponent
As they said in the after match discussion, 'intentionality' is not part of the decision.
Perhaps it should be but it isn't currently.
He was certainly in danger of injuring his opponent
and if a Man Utd player had done that against us we would have been baying for blood.
I'd also be going mental if a Spurs player was sent off under similar circs.