Cardiff record signing Sala on missing plane

[worcestersauce]

The agents are definitely concerned about this now, going public in an interview muddyingthe waters and being caught out telling lies about Cardiff City.

 

[rightwayup]

What was interesting, was the question to Willy MacKay about how he thought Cardiff had behaved, and he asked whether he could swear. When pushed for an answer without swearing he refused. To me it looked like he was avoiding given any answer that could be used against him by Cardiff.

 

[nailsy]

The agents are definitely concerned about this now, going public in an interview muddyingthe waters and being caught out telling lies about Cardiff City.

What lies?

 

[ghjk_91]

This is beginning to get undignified.

 

[John48]

What lies?

Cardiff have released a What's App message to Sala asking him whether he wanted them to arrange a plane & was told no, which flies in the face of what the Agent was saying, which was Cardiff left the player to his own devices.

This is an Agent that can see a lot of sh*te coming his way & possibly being sued for 15M & banned from football, so he's trying to deflect the blame away from himself & his son.

 

[worcestersauce]

Cardiff have released a What's App message to Sala asking him whether he wanted them to arrange a plane & was told no, which flies in the face of what the Agent was saying, which was Cardiff left the player to his own devices.

This is an Agent that can see a lot of sh*te coming his way & possibly being sued for 15M & banned from football, so he's trying to deflect the blame away from himself & his son.

That's what I was referring to, yes.

 

[Spurger King]

I don’t know why anybody would work with a football agent. They all seem to be human pieces of shit.

 

[nailsy]

I don’t know why anybody would work with a football agent. They all seem to be human pieces of shit.

 

[allatsea]

Cardiff have released a What's App message to Sala asking him whether he wanted them to arrange a plane & was told no, which flies in the face of what the Agent was saying, which was Cardiff left the player to his own devices.

This is an Agent that can see a lot of sh*te coming his way & possibly being sued for 15M & banned from football, so he's trying to deflect the blame away from himself & his son.

I thought he wasn’t an accredited agent and in fact it is his son who was the players agent.

 

['O Zio]

I don’t know why anybody would work with a football agent. They all seem to be human pieces of shit.

I suppose they help set you up with a fat paycheck. Can you imagine what would happen if your average dipshit player had to negotiate his own contract with Levy? He'd probably end up paying the club every week for the privalage of playing for us!

 

[michaelden]

This is beginning to get undignified.

There's £15M plus compensation involved, it was never going to end with a gentleman's handshake.

IMO the agent should be liable, shot, then tried, then found guilty, shot again, and then hung slowly until blue, revived, then repeat it once for every time he denied he provided the shit plane & pilot. Then leave him to crawl to his new home, in Cardiff's worst slum.

 

['O Zio]

There's £15M plus compensation involved, it was never going to end with a gentleman's handshake.

Agreed. To be honest though from what I understand of it, the transfer was all completed so IMO Cardiff should pay Nantes the fee still. Whether or not they then claim it back in insurance or sue the agent or whatever is up to them, but I don't see how they can really argue that they shouldn't pay the transfer fee to be honest.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Agreed. To be honest though from what I understand of it, the transfer was all completed so IMO Cardiff should pay Nantes the fee still. Whether or not they then claim it back in insurance or sue the agent or whatever is up to them, but I don't see how they can really argue that they shouldn't pay the transfer fee to be honest.

I honestly don't think it should matter if the transfer was completed.

It's a cold way to describe it, but I can't think of a better way to get my point across.

Say you go to a car dealers, buy yourself a top quality car, choosing the colour and all the extras etc that you'd like added, coming to around 100k. Then you sign the contract & agree the payment terms. Then you head off home, chuffed as fuck.

A short while later, the car dealership calls & tells you that your car is going to be delivered today.

A short while later, you get a call informing that there was an accident & your car was written off.

That was the car you'd spent ages looking for, the one you'd chosen out of many other options. But now you could never have it.

Would you still believe you should pay up the £100k ?

 

[Thewobbler]

Cardiff City are set to claim the deal to buy Emiliano Sala from Nantes for £15m was not legally binding.

The Bluebirds are refusing to make interim payments for the striker, who died in a plane crash on 21 January.

Cardiff will tell world football's governing body Fifa that Nantes' conditions for completion of the deal were not fulfilled and Sala was not registered as a Premier League player.

Nantes claim the required paperwork was completed. The French club referred the matter to Fifa, who want Cardiff to submit their evidence by 3 April

A Cardiff source said the transfer agreement stipulated - at the request of Nantes - that the Football Association of Wales and France's Ligue de Football Professional had to confirm the registration to both clubs by 22 January, along with confirmation of the international transfer certificate being released.

The Premier League also had to clear the registration. The Bluebirds insist the terms of the contract maintains that if any parts of that arrangement were not confirmed, then the deal would be null and void.

They claim:

Ligue de Football Professionel had not contacted Cardiff either before or after 22 January.

The FAW did not confirm with Nantes.

The Ligue de Football Professional did not confirm with Nantes until 25 January.

It is thought the notifications clause was inserted because if the deal fell through, both Cardiff and Nantes would have had time to seek a new player before the January transfer window closed on 31 January.

 

[Blockbuster]

I honestly don't think it should matter if the transfer was completed.

It's a cold way to describe it, but I can't think of a better way to get my point across.

Say you go to a car dealers, buy yourself a top quality car, choosing the colour and all the extras etc that you'd like added, coming to around 100k. Then you sign the contract & agree the payment terms. Then you head off home, chuffed as fuck.

A short while later, the car dealership calls & tells you that your car is going to be delivered today.

A short while later, you get a call informing that there was an accident & your car was written off.

That was the car you'd spent ages looking for, the one you'd chosen out of many other options. But now you could never have it.

Would you still believe you should pay up the £100k ?

Not quite as clear cut as this... they had the car and posed for photos with the car at their home... they let said car go off for a spin around france and it never came back.. not the dealerships fault.

 

[spursfan77]

This is beginning to get undignified.

It was always going to unfortunately. There is no dignity in football and I would be surprised if any other club would act any different.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Not quite as clear cut as this... they had the car and posed for photos with the car at their home... they let said car go off for a spin around france and it never came back.. not the dealerships fault.

All irrelevant if the paperwork wasn't filled out & fully submitted.

 

[DJS]

I think Cardiff should pay up personally.

If this tragedy hadn’t happened, he would have been a Cardiff player.

They can’t go back and now say because he’s passed paperwork didn’t go through, it’s a poor show from them.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Premiership regulations were not fully complied with.

Cardiff did not meet two specific provisions relating to the transfer when the paperwork for his £15m move was lodged with the Premier League.

They did have FIFA clearance, but the Premier League were not happy with two specific elements of the Argentinian striker’s move to Wales.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...640375/emiliano-sala-cardiff-city-nantes/amp/

 

[BC Spur]

I honestly don't think it should matter if the transfer was completed.

It's a cold way to describe it, but I can't think of a better way to get my point across.

Say you go to a car dealers, buy yourself a top quality car, choosing the colour and all the extras etc that you'd like added, coming to around 100k. Then you sign the contract & agree the payment terms. Then you head off home, chuffed as fuck.

A short while later, the car dealership calls & tells you that your car is going to be delivered today.

A short while later, you get a call informing that there was an accident & your car was written off.

That was the car you'd spent ages looking for, the one you'd chosen out of many other options. But now you could never have it.

Would you still believe you should pay up the £100k ?

I think to correct that analogy...

You have purchased a car from a dealership abroad based on lots of reviews.
Because you are not able to get to the dealership directly, and you don't speak their language, the purchase was negotiated on your behalf by a third party
Once the deal was agreed, the third party you hired contracted with another third party to pick-up and deliver the car to your home.
Sadly the transport company had a terrible accident and your car was totally destroyed.
The dealership was acting in good faith with your guy to sell you the car. As far as they are concerned, when your guy picked up the car from their lot, you were responsible for it.

In your scenario, you're arguing that, because you did not receive the car, you are not responsible for the fee.

IMO you need to pay the dealership and then recover the money from the guy you bought in to buy the car for you because he did not deliver; he can try to recover the money from the transport company. If you were smart, you would have been insured from when the car was picked up, so your insurance would pay the dealership, and they can then recover the money from the agent, who hopefully was insured and can have his insurance payout and recover the money from the transport company who were also suitable insured.