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Anyone Else Concerned About Attacking Depth?

TH1239

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We are facing what will be one of the more competitive league seasons in recent memory and also have to juggle Champions League football, which will be difficult and demand our best XI every time out in order to assure qualification for the knockout phase (it's very important to note that only days after 4 of our CL fixtures, we play United, Chelsea, City and Arsenal respectively). Looking at our attacking depth these first three games raises serious alarm bells. Pochettino has not had Chadli or Njie on the bench even once thus far. It's seeming as if both will be sold. Furthermore, I was a bit stunned to see Heung Min Son not even get a minute of playing time today in a match where our usual attacking three of Dele, Eriksen and Lamela were so off. Son should be more match fit than anyone in our squad, as he's played 4 highly competitive Olympic games already. Onomah and Winks came on before him in a match where we were chasing the winning goal at home. When coupled with speculation of a potential transfer, his disastrous Olympics experience, and his desire for first team football, that does not portend well for his future at the club in my opinion.

Now, a lot of people are calling for Eriksen and Dele to be dropped, as they've undoubtedly been poor in the first three games. But for Pochettino to do that, he has to have some confidence that their replacement has it in them to be a major fulcrum of our attack that can press effectively, while also creating and scoring goals. Outside of Janssen, who may end up starting half the time anyways, it doesn't seem Pochettino has any faith in any of the other attacking players at the club at the moment. Poch even signaled in his press conference that the club need reinforcements in the attacking third.

Okay, so we know we'll sign Nkoudou, but he's not had any type of serious pre-season or played in any competitive games since May and like Njie before him, is a bit of a speculative punt coming off a worse season at Marseille than Njie had at Lyon the year before. I would be surprised if Pochettino felt comfortable enough to start him in PL or CL games between September to December. He also has to settle into a new country and fit into a new system of football.

The importance of our attacking three cannot be underestimated. They are the key to the high press and tend to be the ones who log the most kilometers per match in the side. There's no way we can play Eriksen, Lamela and Dele 40+ games each and have them at their best. Furthermore, we need depth not only to cope with 4 competitions, but to mitigate damage from potential unforeseen injuries. Last season we were incredibly fortunate to have a fairly healthy squad. When players like Dembele and Alli missed out due to suspension, our results suffered. It's not incomprehensible that players coming off of summers of lots of football, hard training sessions, and lots of first team football will eventually pick up injuries. So, we have to be prepared for that as well.

Fortunately, we still have a few days left in the transfer window. One thing I'd say is that I actually don't want to see either Chadli or Son sold at this stage. They both have a lot of talent, can score goals, and are seemingly well liked within the squad (I totally don't get why Chadli hasn't been on the bench at least, even if he'll be sold eventually).

I still think, despite poor performances thus far, that our core XI from the end of last season, plus Wanyama, are good enough to push anyone in the league. It's the depth, especially in comparison to our rivals, that is worrisome at the moment.
 

punkisback

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We need someone who can DRIBBLE and PASS! This is the sort of player you want in a 3, right now we have no one who can do both.
 

double0

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Actually we need pace and someone that can score...I don't understand why Chadli isn't involved.
 

Hercules

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Anymore players that we are trying get over the line must have pace and ability to beat his player, as well as assist.
 
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stevensthfc

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Pace and trickery is needed but Chadli doesn't offer either.

I think Poch might be leaving him out so he gets the message that his game time will be limited.

Other than that I agree 100% - our attacking three are vital to the way we play and at the moment they're all a bit samey.
 

thebenjamin

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I doubt there's anyone associated with Spurs who isn't worried about our attacking options.
 

millsey

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Worried about Jansen speed. He really needs to work on that. Fights for ball, works hard, holds it up,
But doesn't help if no ine is running on. We got away with no pave last year, and it seem nkoudou has pace. Just think we need one very very good player to come in that can play on either of front 4 positions with some pace and skill
 

felmani26

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Worried about Jansen speed. He really needs to work on that. Fights for ball, works hard, holds it up,
But doesn't help if no ine is running on. We got away with no pave last year, and it seem nkoudou has pace. Just think we need one very very good player to come in that can play on either of front 4 positions with some pace and skill
It's not necessarily flat out pace we need, it's willing runners going beyond and actively seeking out space, giving options for Janssen to play in to.

He was isolated up front but worked his bollocks off - a damn sight more than Kane has been doing.
 

millsey

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It's not necessarily flat out pace we need, it's willing runners going beyond and actively seeking out space, giving options for Janssen to play in to.

He was isolated up front but worked his bollocks off - a damn sight more than Kane has been doing.
Not slagging Janssen off, but if we had gone for a quick striker I think it would be better for the team.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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There are 100s of suggestions for what we need. I think that we have great players, and only need 1-2 additions. But I don't think we will create loads more goals if we sign one player with "pace" or "creativity" or other suggestions.
I think the issue is systematic first and foremost, and must be addressed in the office of Poch, not on the transfer market. I have serious doubts in the attacking part of Pochettino's systems, ie. creating more goals on a more consistent basis.
I think we need more players, with raw muscle force, inside the box, for a far larger proportion of the game. The system is too cautious when it comes to moving strong players (in plural) into the box. IMO. We are really dangerous when we have two-three strong players there, but when we 1-1 1/2 we are toothless.
 

felmani26

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Not slagging Janssen off, but if we had gone for a quick striker I think it would be better for the team.
How?

This team needs a focal point and a pivot for the likes of Lamela, Eriksen and Alli to work off not a Jamie Vardy-esque striker who's relying on balls over the top.

Kane was and should be that player but he's in a funk right now, as with some of other aforementioned we are all currently discussing so Janssen's pace or perceived lack of, really isn't the big issue here.
 

millsey

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How?

This team needs a focal point and a pivot for the likes of Lamela, Eriksen and Alli to work off not a Jamie Vardy-esque striker who's relying on balls over the top.

Kane was and should be that player but he's in a funk right now, as with some of other aforementioned we are all currently discussing so Janssen's pace or perceived lack of, really isn't the big issue here.
I'm not sure you can play Jansen and Kane together though? Jansen as a focal point fine, but together one of them needs pace and to rub on from each other. Much better having Alli in behind one of them
 

kaz Hirai

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We did pay a whole lot of money for son, so there's still him to be integrated and hopefully improve and push one of the 3 for a start.
He does have pace and directness the others lack

And then njie or George, whoever is here after the internationals

So we need one more assuming Poch has no plans for Chadli.
Id be happy to start pushing Edwards more if we don't sign anyone, and he really couldn't do much worse than Alli or Eriksen right now
 
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felmani26

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I'm not sure you can play Jansen and Kane together though? Jansen as a focal point fine, but together one of them needs pace and to rub on from each other. Much better having Alli in behind one of them
No I don't either - in which case then as it stands, i'd start Janssen and Kane can look to make an impact as a cameo role.

Problem is, Poch will be absolutely crucified by the media if he did indeed drop/rest Kane, Eriksen and Dele which isn't too much of a problem so long as we get the results.
 

millsey

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No I don't either - in which case then as it stands, i'd start Janssen and Kane can look to make an impact as a cameo role.

Problem is, Poch will be absolutely crucified by the media if he did indeed drop/rest Kane, Eriksen and Dele which isn't too much of a problem so long as we get the results.
Hoping we can get Kane out of England duty for a 2 week rest!
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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I'm not sure you can play Jansen and Kane together though? Jansen as a focal point fine, but together one of them needs pace and to rub on from each other. Much better having Alli in behind one of them
Exactly, when Alli dropped back into CM today we had no pace at all in our front 4. We had a goof few oppotunitys to counter in the second half and couldnt capitalise.
 

hughy

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I'm concerned about the fact that our play maker couldn't make a fucking apple pie on this form.
 

Twizzle

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I think our midfield depth is more of a problem, without Moose in CM we get bossed.

We have 2 deep lying specialists and a high line of 3 AMs and a huge hole in the middle which Scousers exploited.

We need one of Deir/Wanyama but not both and a proper CM as there is no link up with the current set up. Kane is a good player so is Jannsen, they are just not getting the service that they should imo.
 

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Not so much depth, but quality. I still don't understand why Edwards hasn't featured on our bench, or even Oduwa for that matter. Of course both are raw and inexperienced (especially Edwards) but both would at least offer something completely different to any of our bench options now.

The thought today that our only option to bring in if we needed final third attacking creativity was fucking Son, was depressing, no one who could actually take players on and dribble at tired legs, get their head up and do something.

Every single time we got into a threatening position today, or good break positions our AM's and forwards frittered it away carelessly. We desperately need to add some brains attached to a sure pair of feet.
 
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