Alessandro Bastoni

[Tucker]

pieces starting to fall into place?

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original piece, hes followed by ally gold, ornstein etc - so think hes legit.

Is this anything new? They’ve been closing in on him for well over a fortnight by my reckoning. This looks like the same story regurgitated for the umpteenth time.

 

[snakehipsspurs]

pieces starting to fall into place?

edit :



original piece, hes followed by ally gold, ornstein etc - so think hes legit.

So Inter have agreed to sign Mkhitaryan, Bremer and Bellanova today with Dybala soon to be sorted too and potentially Lukaku on loan…

Either they’ve got buyers lined up for Dumfries, De Vrij and 2/3 others or this is starting to move.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

So Inter have agreed to sign Mkhitaryan, Bremer and Bellanova today with Dybala soon to be sorted too and potentially Lukaku on loan…

Either they’ve got buyers lined up for Dumfries, De Vrij and 2/3 others or this is starting to move.

Im sure they will sell Pinamonti also but your right, if they are making these moves its because they have something concrete for a bigger player.

 

[jurgen]

Paratici spinning plates to grease the wheels with Inter?

 

[YB123]

Im sure they will sell Pinamonti also but your right, if they are making these moves its because they have something concrete for a bigger player.

Sensi is off for 15m euros.

 

[GutBucket]

Sorry if this has already been covered, but would Bastoni be comfortable covering CB (Dier's position) as well as LCB?

We currently have:
Romero ------ Dier ----- Davies
(Sanchez) (Rodon) (No-one)

While I think Davies is actually good enough as our starting LCB, we clearly need to have another CB in the squad who is comfortable there and plays in the way that Conte requires (i.e. carries the ball out and overlaps with the LWB).

Sanchez is good enough as our sub RCB imo, so we should keep him unless we get a big offer / he wants to leave for a regular starting spot. Emerson and Tanganga can also do a job rotating in at RCB for cup games, but not at the level we need if Romero is out injured.

Rodon clearly isn't trusted atm, so either needs a loan or to move on. I don't think our defensive unit would have the right balance if any of Sanchez, Romero or Davies were to play in the middle of the three CBs, even though I'd be happy with any of the three starting (at RCB / LCB).

If Bastoni can play CB + LCB effectively, this would make him a far more valuable signing than if he can only play LCB.

Ideally CCB is someone positionally disciplined, strong in tackle and great at passing. Prime Toby Alderweireld basically. Bastoni is more like a FB morphed into a CB, better in attacking aspects but not super amazing defensively.

At Inter central CB and DM (Brozovic) weren't able to move to the side a whole lot, they had to keep defensive shape. With wider CBs acting more as traditional FBS (and wing backs more like traditional wingers) central players need to keep the formation shape or it would look like Zeman's Roma with all-out attack. If Dier could make diagonals like Toby he would basically be perfect for the system.

Bastoni can play CCB since his passing is great but he is poor in the air. Our best defender in air is Sanchez, who is in 68th percentile compared to every other CB, others are much worse (can't find stats for Rodon, Bastoni only 34th percentile).

Long story short, ideally we find someone similar to De Vrij/Dier, maybe someone stronger in air because all our CBs aren't great at it (Demiral fits the bill, but his passing isn't great, we were linked with Guehi but also not great in air).

 

[felmani26]

Well looks like Bastoni is ours, if the Bremer news is correct. No way inter get Bremer and keep Bastoni imo.

Although Bremer appears a steal at €30mio

He is but then don't forget, €60m for Bastoni is equally cheap in this market.

 

[Basil Brush]

He is but then don't forget, €60m for Bastoni is equally cheap in this market.

I do agree, as I really love Bastoni.

However is Bastoni worth 2 Bremers?

 

[synththfc]

the question was something like “don’t inter need to sell before they get bremer?”

 

[freeeki]

I do agree, as I really love Bastoni.

However is Bastoni worth 2 Bremers?

I'd take 2 Bremers if that was an option.

How many are available?

 

[Basil Brush]

I'd take 2 Bremers if that was an option.

How many are available?

How long is a piece of string??

 

[Trix]

I do agree, as I really love Bastoni.

However is Bastoni worth 2 Bremers?

Well no, but then is Bremer worth more than an infinite number of Perisic's considering he is a free transfer?

It's a very stretched POV, but my point is you can't compare players like that because each one is completely different. from a sales perspective each one is a bespoke item, that only the buyer and seller can determine the worth to themselves in each individual case.

 

[Basil Brush]

Well no, but then is Bremer worth more than an infinite number of Perisic's considering he is a free transfer?

It's a very stretched POV, but my point is you can't compare players like that because each one is completely different. from a sales perspective each one is a bespoke item, that only the buyer and seller can determine the worth to themselves in each individual case.

Yeah I totally understand that. Just a bit of spitballing on my part.

Edit: that is an American term worth googling, but I am an Aussie.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

I do agree, as I really love Bastoni.

However is Bastoni worth 2 Bremers?

He is if your looking at what we need, IE a LCB. Bremer isn't a LCB so he wouldn't fill the role we need filling. Maybe if he was left footed and had some extended experience of playing there we could risk it, but he's not. The only sense i would see in us signing Bremer is if we wanted to give Dier some serious competition.

 

[Basil Brush]

He is if your looking at what we need, IE a LCB. Bremer isn't a LCB so he wouldn't fill the role we need filling. Maybe if he was left footed and had some extended experience of playing there we could risk it, but he's not. The only sense i would see in us signing Bremer is if we wanted to give Dier some serious competition.

Yep spot on.

 

[Snarfalicious]

Yeah, I like Ben Davies a lot and it is harsh to immediately look to him and say we should do better, but Bastoni is a different class. I do still want to see a more CCB option brought in, but Bastoni would be so huge for us.

 

[Basil Brush]

Well no, but then is Bremer worth more than an infinite number of Perisic's considering he is a free transfer?

It's a very stretched POV, but my point is you can't compare players like that because each one is completely different. from a sales perspective each one is a bespoke item, that only the buyer and seller can determine the worth to themselves in each individual case.

I will add I wanted both Bastoni and Bremer, especially if Bremer at that price of €30mio

 

[Neon_Knight_]

Well no, but then is Bremer worth more than an infinite number of Perisic's considering he is a free transfer?

It's a very stretched POV, but my point is you can't compare players like that because each one is completely different. from a sales perspective each one is a bespoke item, that only the buyer and seller can determine the worth to themselves in each individual case.

Completely agree, but us Spurs fans are too used to thinking in terms of "value for money" over "best attainable signing". Hopefully that's changing and we can afford to sign everyone Conte wants/needs. I'm optimistic that us signing Perisic and Forster on free transfers allows us to go bigger on other players than if we'd had to cough up circa £30-40m to fill those two positions.

 

[jackson]

He is if your looking at what we need, IE a LCB. Bremer isn't a LCB so he wouldn't fill the role we need filling. Maybe if he was left footed and had some extended experience of playing there we could risk it, but he's not. The only sense i would see in us signing Bremer is if we wanted to give Dier some serious competition.

As you bring that up, didn't someone (the inter fan) say Bremer wouldn't be a replacement for Bastoni? Most seem to be linking the two deals but would we be waiting on inter to sign someone else or do they have ready made waiting in the wings?

 

[Ghost Hardware]

As you bring that up, didn't someone (the inter fan) say Bremer wouldn't be a replacement for Bastoni? Most seem to be linking the two deals but would we be waiting on inter to sign someone else or do they have ready made waiting in the wings?

Yeah he wouldn’t. Inter view him as a replacement for De Vrij and have been talking to him since Jan. long before selling Bastoni was even an option for them. Inter would most likely use a youth player or sign someone older and cheap to replace him.