cookiemonster
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When are they going to take 2022 away from Qatar
14 FIFA Officials Arrested on Corruption Charges
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Syn_13
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In 2023?
Bus-Conductor
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Gotta love the fucking hypocrisy. Like England and every other nation hasn't played the game:
http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/qatar-2022.80574/page-26#post-4253575
http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/qatar-2022.80574/page-26#post-4253575
etchedchaos
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Yea, let's ignore an obviously corrupt organisation and let them continue being corrupt all because others are corrupt too. That's the sort of thinking that allows corruption to continue being a problem.
Bus-Conductor
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That's not what I'm saying. It's the pious "lit's all them dirty foreign scoundrels" bullshit that's been going on ever since England failed to bribe their way to a WC event.
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It seems like they may have taken it down for now due to some security problems...Use Hola, a chrome plug in
etchedchaos
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Frankly I couldn't give two hoots if we're hypocrites, FIFA is a far larger problem than the misdemeanours of bid countries. So we're pious but little better, who cares? FIFA needed cleaning up, by saying we're no better, you're deflecting from the main issue at hand to score points on a moral level.
Let's get the bigger problem solved before we start throwing around blame to the rest of the World.
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Who's going to solve the problem ? The pious hypocrites ?
Will the worlds poorer footballing nations be better off if that twat Platini (who's son found him self a cushy job in Qatar) and his cronies are put in charge.
Lilbaz
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If the english fa is guilty they should be done as well.
etchedchaos
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Ah I see, you think it's all futile anyway so why bother. Good job the DoJ and Swiss aren't as cynical as you are, otherwise Blatter would still be in charge and FIFA would be an untouchable behemoth. The 'pious hypocrites' as you put it can still clean stuff up, it just takes a catalyst, say the US Attorney General going after all the perpetrators. Then once that's sorted they can go after the rest of the corrupt twats.
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The issue that everyone has, is that while there is an element of corruption with most bids
The reason why there is so much furore this time is that Qatar fitted none of the requirements to host a world cup except for throwing money at the bids.
You say its england saying oh they are a bunch of corrupt foreigners and hypocrites but no one has said that russia should be stripped of a world cup. They did fit many of the requirements to host the world cup and why there isn't much about it
So the your point above about being hypocrites and saying its corrupt foreigners is a load of bollocks since England didn't go up against Qatar in the first place
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FIFA encouraged corruption.
England didn't win because it wasn't corrupt enough. They were listed in the Garcia report as funding some dinner or other - whereas others paid over $3m in bribes to the president's pool guy or skimmed enough to have a suite in Trump Towers for his cats. There's a game to play and our FA refused to play it.
The Sunday Times article outlines the demands, one of the FIFA dudes wanted a knighthood from the Queen in exchange for his vote.
No one is clean. Just some are far cleaner than others.
England didn't win because it wasn't corrupt enough. They were listed in the Garcia report as funding some dinner or other - whereas others paid over $3m in bribes to the president's pool guy or skimmed enough to have a suite in Trump Towers for his cats. There's a game to play and our FA refused to play it.
The Sunday Times article outlines the demands, one of the FIFA dudes wanted a knighthood from the Queen in exchange for his vote.
No one is clean. Just some are far cleaner than others.
Quite frankly, my furor over Qatar is with their human rights record, the amount of deaths the building of the stadiums are causing, and the terrible climatic conditions there.
Russia should be given until January of next year. If Putin doesnt get out of Ukraine by then, strip them of the WC and give it to England. Even though it should be stripped already due to horrific press conditions and political conditions. Wont happen though. No chance their stripped of the WC.
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Just google it. You can still download from their website. It's just not on Google Store anymore.
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Statement by Qatar:
Doha, June 02 (QNA) - An article in the Washington Post on 27 May ("The Human Toll of FIFA’s Corruption") claimed that 4,000 workers are likely to die while working on World Cup sites, and that some 1,200 had already lost their lives. This is completely untrue. In fact, after almost five million work-hours on World Cup construction sites, not a single worker’s life has been lost. Not one.
In preparing its report, it appears that the Post simply took the total annual mortality figures for Indian and Nepalese migrants working in Qatar and multiplied those numbers by the years remaining between now and the 2022 World Cup – a calculation which assumes that the death of every migrant worker in Qatar is work related.
Qatar has more than a million migrant workers. The Global Burden of Disease study, published in The Lancet in 2012, states that more than 400 deaths might be expected annually from cardiovascular disease alone among Qatar’s migrant population, even had they remained in their home countries. It is unfortunate that any worker should die overseas, but it is wrong to distort statistics to suggest, as the Post’s article did, that all deaths in such a large population are the result of workplace conditions.
The Post’s article was accompanied by a dramatic graphic, which purports to compare the imagined fatalities in Qatar with the number of lives lost in the construction of other international sports venues, including the London Olympics, where just one worker was reported to have died. A more accurate comparison according to the Post's analysis would have also suggested that every migrant worker in the United Kingdom who died between 2005 and 2012 - whatever the job and whatever the cause of death - was killed in the construction of the 2012 London Olympics.
Qatar’s Government Communications Office sent a letter to the editor of the Washington Post challenging the 27 May article and the figures presented in the accompanying graphic. We received a reply stating that because the original article had appeared online and not in print, the Post would not be printing Qatar’s letter of complaint.
But while the Washington Post may not deem its online articles to be worthy of rebuttal, enormous damage has been done to Qatar’s image and reputation by the online publication of the Post's article. In fact, "The Human Toll of FIFA’s Corruption," with its fabricated numbers and its inflammatory and inaccurate graphic, has now gone viral, with almost five million views on Facebook and YouTube as of 1 June.
As a result of the Post’s online article, readers around the world have now been led to believe that thousands of migrant workers in Qatar have perished, or will perish, building the facilities for World Cup 2022 – a claim that has absolutely no basis in fact.
In our view, the misinformation in the article has damaged more than the image of Qatar; we believe it has also damaged the Post’s reputation for fair and accurate reporting. With that in mind, we have requested an immediate retraction of the article by the Washington Post and a correction of the misinformation it contains. (QNA)
Doha, June 02 (QNA) - An article in the Washington Post on 27 May ("The Human Toll of FIFA’s Corruption") claimed that 4,000 workers are likely to die while working on World Cup sites, and that some 1,200 had already lost their lives. This is completely untrue. In fact, after almost five million work-hours on World Cup construction sites, not a single worker’s life has been lost. Not one.
In preparing its report, it appears that the Post simply took the total annual mortality figures for Indian and Nepalese migrants working in Qatar and multiplied those numbers by the years remaining between now and the 2022 World Cup – a calculation which assumes that the death of every migrant worker in Qatar is work related.
Qatar has more than a million migrant workers. The Global Burden of Disease study, published in The Lancet in 2012, states that more than 400 deaths might be expected annually from cardiovascular disease alone among Qatar’s migrant population, even had they remained in their home countries. It is unfortunate that any worker should die overseas, but it is wrong to distort statistics to suggest, as the Post’s article did, that all deaths in such a large population are the result of workplace conditions.
The Post’s article was accompanied by a dramatic graphic, which purports to compare the imagined fatalities in Qatar with the number of lives lost in the construction of other international sports venues, including the London Olympics, where just one worker was reported to have died. A more accurate comparison according to the Post's analysis would have also suggested that every migrant worker in the United Kingdom who died between 2005 and 2012 - whatever the job and whatever the cause of death - was killed in the construction of the 2012 London Olympics.
Qatar’s Government Communications Office sent a letter to the editor of the Washington Post challenging the 27 May article and the figures presented in the accompanying graphic. We received a reply stating that because the original article had appeared online and not in print, the Post would not be printing Qatar’s letter of complaint.
But while the Washington Post may not deem its online articles to be worthy of rebuttal, enormous damage has been done to Qatar’s image and reputation by the online publication of the Post's article. In fact, "The Human Toll of FIFA’s Corruption," with its fabricated numbers and its inflammatory and inaccurate graphic, has now gone viral, with almost five million views on Facebook and YouTube as of 1 June.
As a result of the Post’s online article, readers around the world have now been led to believe that thousands of migrant workers in Qatar have perished, or will perish, building the facilities for World Cup 2022 – a claim that has absolutely no basis in fact.
In our view, the misinformation in the article has damaged more than the image of Qatar; we believe it has also damaged the Post’s reputation for fair and accurate reporting. With that in mind, we have requested an immediate retraction of the article by the Washington Post and a correction of the misinformation it contains. (QNA)
Danners9
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the statement was read out by..
Some of these people are truly mad and kidding themselves as much as everyone else. All those human rights groups must just be making it up or racist, another accusation thrown at criticism of Qatar.
Some of these people are truly mad and kidding themselves as much as everyone else. All those human rights groups must just be making it up or racist, another accusation thrown at criticism of Qatar.
