Kalidou Koulibaly
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It’s the ITK that this has legs that makes people think this has legs...
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I will address this away from the Transfer thread to avoid a ban.
You write as if these two are mutually exclusive just to be provocative. Paying money to ensure that we are a top club in the CL place should also ensure that we win something. Liverpool, Man City, Manu, Chelsea and even Arsenal the usual Top 4 chasers have won something while aiming for this. Poch has had more than enough opportunities to take home a trophy while in the position to do so with the players we had. To put his failure down solely on Levy / ENIC not spending enough is nonsense.
RichieS
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Pochettino was very open about not being interested in the domestic cups - you have to wonder whose decision that was.
pablo73
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I'm not trying to be provocative at all. Over the past 4 years while we were regularly qualifying for the champions league, the squad has been woefully neglected in terms of investment. That is just an undeniable truth.
As soon as it looks like we may not qualify for the champions league, suddenly it seems there may be plenty of cash available. That may or may not be true, time will tell.
If it is true it's hard to escape the conclusion that qualifying for the champions league is the main aim and anything else, ie actually winning something, is a nice bonus but not worth really pushing for.
S17PUR
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Is Koulibaly good enough that he can walk straight through the door and hit the ground running immediately, even in a league that's entirely new to him?
That was what was great about Van Dijk for Liverpool - he had the talent, but was also acclimatised to the league. That's what we need if we're signing players in January and that'd be my only concern with this signing.
Of course, if he's truly an elite level player, you'd expect him to adapt very quickly. I've just not seen enough of him to know if that's the case.
That was what was great about Van Dijk for Liverpool - he had the talent, but was also acclimatised to the league. That's what we need if we're signing players in January and that'd be my only concern with this signing.
Of course, if he's truly an elite level player, you'd expect him to adapt very quickly. I've just not seen enough of him to know if that's the case.
VancouverSpur
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Koulibaly is the real deal for sure. That is not in question for me, what is in question is the economics of it all and do we really see Levy forking out any number from 70 to 100 Million for him. Previous form says he won’t but can the so called “Special One“ convince him otherwise.
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My Napoli colleague here at work just told me that he has a buy out clause of about 90 million plus he is out for a couple months with a knee injury
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RichieS
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Woah, Nelly! In each of 16/17, 17/18 and 19/20, at least one player intended to go straight into the starting 11 was purchased, along with several squad players of a theoretically higher standard than those they replaced. The fact that some of the signings haven't worked out well doesn't change the fact that the investment was made. It's the same as "we never replaced Berbatov" despite signing about 17 strikers after he left.
You don't think there might be plenty of cash available now (as there was in the summer) because, you know, there's actually more cash available to use now? Until the end of the summer the club was on the hook for £637m to be repaid in 2022 - that's going to have had an effect on willingness/ability to spend, surely?!
S17PUR
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Just had a quick look and he has a muscle injury but is in training (separate to the rest of the team), so I would expect he'll be back in weeks rather than months.
If it's 90m euros rather than pounds, that's not as bad, but still more than I could see us paying!
pablo73
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Taking last summer aside, when was the last time we made a signing that you could call an unqualified success? It's painfully obvious that this squad has been allowed to stagnate either through buying inferior players or not buying anyone at all.
Levy has history with this kind if thing tbh. He is reactionary in terms of transfers and spends big when we are in trouble, eg when Redknapp took over.
Whenever we get within touching distance of actually competing for top honours that sort of major investment is distinctly lacking.
nedley
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RichieS
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That's precisely the point I'm making - investing poorly is not the same as not investing at all.
Given how far we have come over the last 20 years (apparently in spite of Levy, lol) I am prepared to give the benefit of the doubt. Everything is in place now and there are no possible excuses left for not improving our whole recruitment process. Signs from the summer were positive.
The Opinionated Lurker
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A point that couldn’t be stated enough. Poch got his targets (in the end) and we definitely paid market rate. Some act like TN, GLC, RS and JC all came on a free
Jules77
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I hear you.. but essentially Sanchez is/was that young CB for $50m (with some inflation). Does another highly promising young CB solve the immediate problem?
The extra $30m buys you decreased risk, increased likelihood of impact and importantly makes the impact immediate. We need impact now.
double0
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Poch didn’t have the financial backing of the clubs mentioned the anomaly being Leicester. He achieved greatly in terms of league finish latter stages and final of major tournaments. Still felt he should have been backed more in the up coming transfer window.
Let’s see if Levy will back Mourinho
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I’m not sure we will. I think we will wait and see if we get CL and if we do we will active the purchase clause then. No point spending money unless we have to, especially if it can be spent somewhere else. But if eriksen goes this window I think we will.
Regarding Koulibaly, if we were expecting to have to spend big to replace Vertonghen in the summer then there’s little difference to doing it now, especially if we can chuck him into the deal to everyone’s benefit. A move for Jan would be good for him, he’s still good and fit enough to play for a couple of years but I think the PL may well now be too much for him.
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I don't think you can put last summer aside as though it was a one off, I see it as a watershed and a pointer to how we will be from now on. The new stadium obviously plays a part in this, I had hoped we'd start the summer before but at least we've begun now.
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