I’ve only seen the name in written form so far…
Is it pronounced ‘Posta-cog-loo’?
Yep.
I’ve only seen the name in written form so far…
Is it pronounced ‘Posta-cog-loo’?
Think that's a much better argument for doubting him than most others which tend to boil down to "he's never managed at the top level therefore he never can" or "he's australian".Indeed, but when he stepped up successfully in Japan, he did so in his second season.
In his first season, he took a team who had never been out of the J1-League to within a point of the relegation play-offs and within three points of relegation. In part, because only two teams conceded more goals than his team did.
If his learning curve is of a similar ilk here, we won't get to see him step up in his second season. Chances are we won't get to see how he fares with rotating for the third round of the Carabao Cup. He'll be out on his arse before you can say 'Taramasalata'.
Look, I can see his appeal. He has charm and he plays attacking football. But that's not enough for me. And I don't think it will be enough for a querulous crowd and a lily-livered chairman if we start shipping goals at home. Big defeats at home did for AVB and Nuno and they'll do for Ange too if they happen, no matter how engaging he is.
To be honest, I'm not completely sold on Nagelsmann or Luis Enrique either. I just think both would have enough top league experience to navigate the choppy waters that any manager new to the Premier League is likely to face. I'm fearful, based on his J1-League experience, that Ange may not.
But why would he not be seen as someone who could bring similar success here, when his past history showed he could overcome the odds and being successful in Japan where language and culture-wise were so different to him as a person?Indeed, but when he stepped up successfully in Japan, he did so in his second season.
In his first season, he took a team who had never been out of the J1-League to within a point of the relegation play-offs and within three points of relegation. In part, because only two teams conceded more goals than his team did.
If his learning curve is of a similar ilk here, we won't get to see him step up in his second season. Chances are we won't get to see how he fares with rotating for the third round of the Carabao Cup. He'll be out on his arse before you can say 'Taramasalata'.
Look, I can see his appeal. He has charm and he plays attacking football. But that's not enough for me. And I don't think it will be enough for a querulous crowd and a lily-livered chairman if we start shipping goals at home. Big defeats at home did for AVB and Nuno and they'll do for Ange too if they happen, no matter how engaging he is.
To be honest, I'm not completely sold on Nagelsmann or Luis Enrique either. I just think both would have enough top league experience to navigate the choppy waters that any manager new to the Premier League is likely to face. I'm fearful, based on his J1-League experience, that Ange may not.
I don’t think anyone is going to put too much weight into one match that happened a number of years ago even if his team went 1-0 down to a goal by the opposition goalkeeper. One should never judge a manager or player on the outcome of a single match.It's good to provide some context as Honda FC are 4th tier only because they chose not to join the J-league set-up without giving up their corporate identity in the name Honda. Quoted from the article below: "They are the dominant team in that league, winning four titles in a row between 2016 and 2019 and have not been promoted only because they have not expressed an interest in attaining a J League licence"
They are by no means a farmers' team just so people are not misunderstood. And Ange's Yokohama F.Marinos went to lose in the penalty shootout, not like they were thrashed in the exit of the tournament.
Here are the entire article for those who are keen:
Yokohama Marinos lose to fourth tier side in Ange Postecoglou's last game
Goalkeeper Yuki Kusumoto scored from the spot in normal time as the J League team were eventually beaten in a shoot-out.www.dailyrecord.co.uk
Winner. I just wanna set up a clearer explanation for those against him to not be further put off thinking he couldn't even beat a '4th tier' team.I don’t think anyone is going to put too much weight into one match that happened a number of years ago even if his team went 1-0 down to a goal by the opposition goalkeeper. One should never judge a manager or player on the outcome of a single match.
Think that's a much better argument for doubting him than most others which tend to boil down to "he's never managed at the top level therefore he never can" or "he's australian".
Personally I'm at the stage where I'd rather suffer a bit in the short term if the potential upside is high (like Arsenal did with Arteta) than settle for someone who will have us plodding along in 7th/8th and then probably leave within a season or two.
But yes, if we have a similar trajectory to his J-League side Levy will sack him before we reap any benefits so that's a genuine concern.
I thought CCV was still on our books somehow. Didn't sign under Francis?I wonder if Ange would look at bringing Carter-Vickers back, seems he's been a pivotal player for him and about the best player in the league for his position.
I think this goes back to what Trix was saying that you can't treat bringing in a new manager as a normal interview process whereby you speak to multiple candidates at the same time, expecting them to pitch hard as to why they deserve the job ahead of the others. Elite managers have their pick of top clubs and they need to feel wanted... it's up to the interested club to decide they are the number 1 choice and court them accordingly, not the other way round.I hope the rumour we’ve spoke to someone else is either not the case or timeline wise it was simply Luis Enrique earlier in the week. We need to set our sights on one man now and stop pissing around. If there’s a strong enough belief Ange is the right man then just get him in so we can get moving. We can’t keep messing around because that’s how you end up missing out on more managers and end up with Sharky McSharkface because there’s no one else left.
We finally sold him to celtic permanently last summer for an undisclosed fee believed to be £6mI thought CCV was still on our books somehow. Didn't sign under Francis?
What does adapt mean though
I want a coach that can adapt their in game tactics and adjust to different scenarios
I don’t want a coach that will adapt to Levy offering him 3rd/4th choice signings and holding squad development back to pinch pennies
The board and Levy need to be held to account but also the manager needs to show adaptability
hope Ange isn’t a yes man though
Matilda?The Goat hears (from a reliable source) that although Matilda is still the likeliest to waltz through the door, it isn't decided yet. Also, a fairly new source (so salt please) tells The Goat that someone else has been spoken to over the past couple of days.
It wouldn’t have to be top level for me but Australia and Scotland is really pushing it. Experience is a pretty big factor with interviewing for any job. Not to say he couldn't be the next Pep, he could well be but then the other problem I have with him is his age. Again, I don’t think his age neccisarily means he’s not up to it or that he won’t be a sucess but couple that with the fact he’s been in Austraia, Japan and Scotland is a legitimate concern for a club like us.Think that's a much better argument for doubting him than most others which tend to boil down to "he's never managed at the top level therefore he never can" or "he's australian".
Personally I'm at the stage where I'd rather suffer a bit in the short term if the potential upside is high (like Arsenal did with Arteta) than settle for someone who will have us plodding along in 7th/8th and then probably leave within a season or two.
But yes, if we have a similar trajectory to his J-League side Levy will sack him before we reap any benefits so that's a genuine concern.
Waltzing Matilda is a well known Australian folk song, it’s their unofficial anthem.Matilda?
Waltzing Matilda is a popular Australian folk song.Matilda?
Okay well I’m going to believe that the someone else is Gallardo and that Levy will see the light and go for him. Why you may ask? Because today Im choosing to live in a fantasy world where money grows on trees, people shit confetti and Spurs are a well run team with a visionary in charge.The Goat hears (from a reliable source) that although Matilda is still the likeliest to waltz through the door, it isn't decided yet. Also, a fairly new source (so salt please) tells The Goat that someone else has been spoken to over the past couple of days.