thebenjamin
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so they literally only want yes-men
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so they literally only want yes-men
easley91
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spursfan77
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Fucking hell, what a joke. Poch, Nagelsmann, Slot....Postecoglou. Man looks like he's 5 minutes from a heart attack already, let alone managing us.
Screams like a Nuno appointment. Panic and desperation. Let's hope it isn't him.
Screams like a Nuno appointment. Panic and desperation. Let's hope it isn't him.
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Guntz
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Ange is very highly rated by City Football Group and he was Brighton's first choice before De Zerbi.
He has said before he loves rebuilding clubs and wants to play aggressive, front-foot football.
I know not many people will be enamored by his potential appointment, but I really think he can do a good job for us.
We just have to accept that most managers won't touch us now because of Levy.
He has said before he loves rebuilding clubs and wants to play aggressive, front-foot football.
I know not many people will be enamored by his potential appointment, but I really think he can do a good job for us.
We just have to accept that most managers won't touch us now because of Levy.
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tony0379
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Crosses "funtime Friday" off calendar
McFlash
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I actually quite like big Ange but when JN and Slot are available and we're already baulking about giving them backing they need, this isn't going to end well.
We'll be lucky to get someone like Postecoglu at this rate, we're nearly at the bottom of the barrel already.
Dennism
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They will make more money from a successful club. Are they too stupid to work this out? Guess so.
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Plain, obvious and depressing. Keystone Cops.
spursfan77
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He's not turning us down. One look at his managerial career tells me he just won't believe his luck. We didn't chase down Neil Lennon or Martin O'Neill for the job of manager because they did well in Scotland with Celtic and quite rightly. We shouldn't be looking at this bloke either. It just screams mid table shite.
Dennism
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Not sure Levy gives a monkeys about fan opinion.
Donki
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I hear this a lot but I can’t agree, it’s a huge risk for them to try and compete with the likes of City, United and now Newcastle financially. The risk of failure vastly out weighs the benefits if the club was competitive. We have 3 domestic competitions and only the league title is a real money maker.
spursfan77
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I'm not sure where this has come from. De Zerbi was always their first choice.
Also, so what if he is highly rated by City Football Group. All their teams are shit and an FFP work around for the actual main club.
jazz15c
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The absolute hubris of them not to take a step back and think 'hang on, are WE the problem here?'
Yiddo100
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There’s positives to big Ange, wasn’t the choice I’d have gone for but we’re down the list now, and itk in the past has suggested he was pretty high on the list at points so at least we’re not scattergunning just yet.
Seems to have done a good job everywhere he’s been, also he’s got previous at Celtic in stepping into a club with fans who didn’t just not want him, many had never even heard of him so to go on and have the success he’s had it points to him being a strong character.
Seems to have done a good job everywhere he’s been, also he’s got previous at Celtic in stepping into a club with fans who didn’t just not want him, many had never even heard of him so to go on and have the success he’s had it points to him being a strong character.
Nerine
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Surely there has to be some overarching reason we operate as we do?
Like, it's so incompetent, there has to be some reason for it; something hamstringing the club behind the scenes (and obviously Levy, yes).
I don't see how we can possibly make so many terrible decisions, so many blunders, have such a specific AND non-specific managerial ideal without there being something that us fans just aren't privy to?
DL is a shrewd businessman (benefit of the doubt here). How can he seriously not realise what nearly everybody who supports this club does?
It's perplexing, and the mental gymnastics required to understand what the actual titty fuck we are doing as a club is beyond me and most supporters.
NOT ONE of our decisions follows from the last, makes any sense, is well thought out, demonstrates a directional plan, etc.
We want Naglesmann, no we don't. We want Slot, but not that badly. We need a DOF, but not too desperately. We want to go back to our "DNA", no we don't. We're gonna back a manager, actually no. We've got 150m to spend, no actually it's less. We've learned from our mistakes, we've learned nothing. We have our managerial targets, we've changed our mind. We need a win now manager, nah, we need a project manager. It just goes on and on and on. Everything is reactionary, nothing follows, nothing scans or tracks. Or, it's a flat out LIE to placate the fans when the going gets a bit rough.
The problem with a reactionary approach is the PL changes very quickly. Teams come on strong out of nowhere and the money coming into the league from dubious sources is only ever going to increase, putting us in more jeopardy with our knee-jerk approach. The only thing that competes with that level of increased competitiveness is having a really good plan and sticking to it. We aren't capable of doing that or don't really want to. And we won't be able to knee jerk to every change in a way that doesn't end up costing us credibility or money.
The only thing I can think of that pulls all of this together is simply that the fiscal bottom line is just more important than anything else. Everything we do smacks of cost cutting, yet we WASTE HUUUUGGGGEEEE sums of money on this indecisive approach. It's plain crazy, plain stupidity, plain incompetence and as I've said recently just kind of renders everything pointless - destined to spend eternity in some kind of weird football limbo. Spend just enough to keep us vaguely relevant - between 4th and 7th, and rely on a bit of luck here and there to maybe reach a semi-final occasionally. It's football purgatory. If we don't really want to compete for honours, what is the point? Is THFC simply now a money making vehicle for the investors? (I mean it's always been that, I guess, but when Poch was here I guess the board got lucky with him and the then squad and perhaps pulled the wool over our eyes.)
That for me is the concerning thing. I no longer believe football performance is actually too relevant to the higher-ups. I think it's now about just keeping some value in the entity so ENIC look at the THFC line on their annual report of their vast portfolio and see a percentage increase next to the line in the Excel spreado. We keep being told that we're a well off club. 10th richest in World football. We keep seeing evidence of this in reports and accounts. But that's the only place we see the evidence of it. We sure as fuck don't see any of that evidence in the squad management, the manager backing, the desire to win, the desire to compete.
I think we are being missold, lied to, being taken for idiots and our love of the club being taken advantage of to bleed as much money as possible out of us. I don't think the actual football we have to endure is of any interest or importance to our board so long as they do just enough to keep everyone spending.
****s.
Like, it's so incompetent, there has to be some reason for it; something hamstringing the club behind the scenes (and obviously Levy, yes).
I don't see how we can possibly make so many terrible decisions, so many blunders, have such a specific AND non-specific managerial ideal without there being something that us fans just aren't privy to?
DL is a shrewd businessman (benefit of the doubt here). How can he seriously not realise what nearly everybody who supports this club does?
It's perplexing, and the mental gymnastics required to understand what the actual titty fuck we are doing as a club is beyond me and most supporters.
NOT ONE of our decisions follows from the last, makes any sense, is well thought out, demonstrates a directional plan, etc.
We want Naglesmann, no we don't. We want Slot, but not that badly. We need a DOF, but not too desperately. We want to go back to our "DNA", no we don't. We're gonna back a manager, actually no. We've got 150m to spend, no actually it's less. We've learned from our mistakes, we've learned nothing. We have our managerial targets, we've changed our mind. We need a win now manager, nah, we need a project manager. It just goes on and on and on. Everything is reactionary, nothing follows, nothing scans or tracks. Or, it's a flat out LIE to placate the fans when the going gets a bit rough.
The problem with a reactionary approach is the PL changes very quickly. Teams come on strong out of nowhere and the money coming into the league from dubious sources is only ever going to increase, putting us in more jeopardy with our knee-jerk approach. The only thing that competes with that level of increased competitiveness is having a really good plan and sticking to it. We aren't capable of doing that or don't really want to. And we won't be able to knee jerk to every change in a way that doesn't end up costing us credibility or money.
The only thing I can think of that pulls all of this together is simply that the fiscal bottom line is just more important than anything else. Everything we do smacks of cost cutting, yet we WASTE HUUUUGGGGEEEE sums of money on this indecisive approach. It's plain crazy, plain stupidity, plain incompetence and as I've said recently just kind of renders everything pointless - destined to spend eternity in some kind of weird football limbo. Spend just enough to keep us vaguely relevant - between 4th and 7th, and rely on a bit of luck here and there to maybe reach a semi-final occasionally. It's football purgatory. If we don't really want to compete for honours, what is the point? Is THFC simply now a money making vehicle for the investors? (I mean it's always been that, I guess, but when Poch was here I guess the board got lucky with him and the then squad and perhaps pulled the wool over our eyes.)
That for me is the concerning thing. I no longer believe football performance is actually too relevant to the higher-ups. I think it's now about just keeping some value in the entity so ENIC look at the THFC line on their annual report of their vast portfolio and see a percentage increase next to the line in the Excel spreado. We keep being told that we're a well off club. 10th richest in World football. We keep seeing evidence of this in reports and accounts. But that's the only place we see the evidence of it. We sure as fuck don't see any of that evidence in the squad management, the manager backing, the desire to win, the desire to compete.
I think we are being missold, lied to, being taken for idiots and our love of the club being taken advantage of to bleed as much money as possible out of us. I don't think the actual football we have to endure is of any interest or importance to our board so long as they do just enough to keep everyone spending.
****s.
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