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chas vs dave

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Not even going to watch the interview, can't stand his squealy little lying face anymore, its all PR BS, don't trust a word that comes out of his A level achieving little mouth.

he has a degree in land economics.

Does level of education define what you think of someone? Seems increadibly sanctimonious.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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he has a degree in land economics.

Does level of education define what you think of someone? Seems increadibly sanctimonious.
Lol it was a joke mate :ROFLMAO: because in the AON documentary he tried to motivate N'Dombele with a story about his A-Levels.

I couldn't care less what education Levy has but I do care how he runs our football club and how he tries to pull the wool over the eyes of our fans time and again and is utterly incompetent on the football side of our club and I do define what I think of him because the last 3 years his decisions have sucked all the joy out of supporting our great club for most of us.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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He doesn’t get it….

100% yawn, as you say he completely doesn't get it.

Also if by dragging out negotiations and focusing so heavily on price and the economics of a deal etc that means we hang onto players too long that the manager doesn't want, that aren't good enough, that are dragging down morale or that we lose out on signing players because we aren't decisive enough and end up haggling over the smallest of details then those decisions add up and end up causing the type of mess we are in now or at least the huge mess our squad was in 3 and 2 seasons ago that Paratici has had to slowly rectify.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Not even going to watch the interview, can't stand his squealy little lying face anymore, its all PR BS, don't trust a word that comes out of his A level achieving little mouth.
Anyone disliking this btw has fallen hook line and sinker for the Stockholm Syndrome he's created with our fanbase. 4th place and expanding profits and events and property portfolio is the forever goal of Levy and ENIC, they don't know how to run a successful football operation and they have little regard or respect or understanding for our fans or for the DNA and tradition of our football team! Sad to see after 22 years that some on here still can't see this.
 
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TOLBINY

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That's twice this year I have seen him asked about being a Spurs supporter all his life and when his first game was. Both times he has said he was 7 or 8 and he has never named the match or the result.

If I was asked that question my reply would be "My first game was February 1972, I was nine years old and we beat Stoke 2-0 - Big Martin Chivers got a brace."

I often get suspicious when people are vague with answers - just saying!
 

PaulM

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Anyone disliking this btw has fallen hook line and sinker for the Stockhold Syndrome he's created with our fanbase. 4th place and expanding profits and events and property portfolio is the forever goal of Levy and ENIC, they don't know how to run a successful football operation and they have little regard or respect or understanding for our fans. Sad to see after 22 years that some on here still can't see this.
Despite the lack of trophies, there has been a lot of progress on the football side in the last 20 years. I'm frustrated with the lack of trophies, I'm very frustrated with the current situation at the club but to deny that Levy has done a hell of a lot of good at Tottenham is unfair IMO. And to rubbish people who think that is wrong.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Doesn't get what?
That sometimes some financial flexibility needs to take place to run a successful football operation.

Move players on that we don't need at a slightly cheaper price than market value because the benefit of them being off the books from a sporting perspective is high, same thing with pennypinching and dragging out deals a la Grealish for £5mil, countless other examples.

Of course we need to be run sustainably but sometimes you need to take an offer to move a player on and you need to pay a little over the odds to get a good player in.

The issue is he has no real understanding of football so he sees the players as financial assets rather than part of a sporting squad where decisions impact the squad.

Take Arsenal for example, Arteta came in and tried to sort out the issues with Aubameyang but he was a major disruption to their squad so the Arsenal Sporting Director and Board found an agreement that Jan at all costs to terminate his contract and he signed for Barca, that move wrote off cost for them and transformed their squad morale. Levy would never think about things in this way he'd just think Aubameyang is a big name player so keep him at all costs. Take Eriksen for example, it was clear he didn't want to be at the club, he was moody and not really putting in 110%, at that point its best to find bidders and take the money and move on, instead Levy dug in and tried to keep Eriksen for as long as possible and said we'd match any wage offers etc but he didn't as usual read the room because Eriksen simply wanted out so instead of him stinking out the place for a year and a half and going for a very cut rate price with 6 months left on his deal we should've sold him for a big fee 6,12 or 18 months before that. How about when we sold Keane and Defoe and Berbatov and started the season with Darren Bent and Fraiser Campbell? What about when we needed to push the boat out a bit for Redknapp to go for the title and he was given Ryan Nelson and Saha? What about when Poch called for a painful rebuild and it wasn't provided? What about recently when Jose wanted Kim Min Jae and instead we get him Joe Rodon and Conte wanted Bastoni and we give him Lenglet on loan, how about when we wouldn't go the extra few million for Winjaldium or Mane and ended up with N'Jie, N'Koudou 2 for the price of 1 and Sissoko?

This is what Levy doesn't get and never will.

The way he's operated has sabotaged so many starts to our season it is untrue.
 
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PaulM

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That saving a few quid on players has cost the club on the whole.
Has it? The quote is also being taken slightly out of context here. His answer was in relation to whether he was "more painful to deal with than a hip replacement".
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Despite the lack of trophies, there has been a lot of progress on the football side in the last 20 years. I'm frustrated with the lack of trophies, I'm very frustrated with the current situation at the club but to deny that Levy has done a hell of a lot of good at Tottenham is unfair IMO. And to rubbish people who think that is wrong.
Yep agree with that mate its certainly not all bad but if people are still believing the PR spin then that is a problem.
 

Timberwolf

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I think so.

Broadly speaking I think Levy's done an OK job when it comes to transfers. He's made some big mistakes but also backed some big winners and got the occasional coup over the line. It's often messy and disorganised, but I think our steady rise up the table speaks for itself and he's under-par compared to most chairmen across his tenure (even if his recent mismanagement has cost us post-Poch)

However, the man does have a real knack of trying to cut corners and penny-pinch on every single deal and sometimes this has been to the massive detriment of the team.

- Skimping in the market every time we're on the brink of actually achieving something (did it under both Harry and Poch in crucial windows when we were in the hunt for trophies)
- Always looking for the cheap alternative or compromise - we've missed out of countless potential key signings this way that could've really taken us up a step, instead recruiting late minute bargains or second-rate options
- Refusing to sell anyone below peak value since about 2015, meaning unwanted/fading players clog up the squad, stick around forever or are eventually let go for pennies/free

He can claim all this stuff is in the service of the club, but his unwillingness to compromise and spend just a little bit more on a number of occasions has cost us a lot more in the grand scheme of things. We might save money here and there with his method, but the amount we lose to opportunity cost is much bigger.
 
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fishhhandaricecake

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I think so.

Broadly speaking I think Levy's done an OK job when it comes to transfers. He's made some big mistakes but also backed some big winners and got the occasional coup over the line. It's often messy and disorganised, but I think our steady rise up the table speaks for itself and he's probably under-par compared to most chairmen across his tenure (even if his recent mismanagement has cost us post-Poch)

However, the man does have a real knack of trying to cut corners and penny-pinch on every single deal and sometimes this has been to the massive detriment to the team.

- Skimping in the market every time we're on the brink of actually achieving something (did it under both Harry and Poch in crucial windows when we were in the hunt for trophies)
- Always looking for the cheap alternative or compromise - we've missed out of countless potential key signings this way that could've really taken us up a step, instead recruiting late minute bargains or second-rate options
- Refusing to sell anyone below peak value since about 2015, meaning unwanted/fading players clog up the squad, stick around forever or are eventually let go for pennies/free

He can claim all this stuff is in the service of the club, but his unwillingness to compromise and spend just a little bit more on a number of occasions has cost us a lot more in the grand scheme of things.
👏 nailed it.
 

Drink!Drink!

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Par for the Levy and Joe Lewis golf course

Has said nothing to fans, or faced any questions, during this current crisis. But will do something at Cambridge, as long he can pick and choose which questions he wants to answer, and apparently, some parts of what he said have been edited out of the video

Was there anything in that performance that didn't confirm the worst fears that ENIC sees us an anchor tenant to their property investments and entertainment events venture?
 

Trix

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I think so.

Broadly speaking I think Levy's done an OK job when it comes to transfers. He's made some big mistakes but also backed some big winners and got the occasional coup over the line. It's often messy and disorganised, but I think our steady rise up the table speaks for itself and he's under-par compared to most chairmen across his tenure (even if his recent mismanagement has cost us post-Poch)

However, the man does have a real knack of trying to cut corners and penny-pinch on every single deal and sometimes this has been to the massive detriment of the team.

- Skimping in the market every time we're on the brink of actually achieving something (did it under both Harry and Poch in crucial windows when we were in the hunt for trophies)
- Always looking for the cheap alternative or compromise - we've missed out of countless potential key signings this way that could've really taken us up a step, instead recruiting late minute bargains or second-rate options
- Refusing to sell anyone below peak value since about 2015, meaning unwanted/fading players clog up the squad, stick around forever or are eventually let go for pennies/free

He can claim all this stuff is in the service of the club, but his unwillingness to compromise and spend just a little bit more on a number of occasions has cost us a lot more in the grand scheme of things. We might save money here and there with his method, but the amount we lose to opportunity cost is much bigger.
You can also add players having little pre season training with a new team to that list, and points dropped playing games when a new player coming in prior to the game could have made a difference.
 
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