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Albertbarich · Apr 3, 2023

As much as I have a somewhat childish desperation for Naglesmann,I do like the fact that they're are so many exciting options out there.

Naglesmann, Poch, De Zerbi, Slot, Postegcoglu even Amorim . I'd be happy and fully behind any of them.

Even with the chavs and maybe a couple of others sniffing around it'd a great time to be in the market for a manager.

EastLondonYid · Apr 3, 2023

onthetwo said:
Weve had the proven winners (Jose & Conte), the project coaches (Poch & AVB), a few caretakers (Mason & Stellini) a few old-school types (Man in raincoat & Arry) and a few outright panics (Nuno most notably) so by process of elimination i think a project coach where the project failed is the last piece of the puzzle!
Bingo!"

Moyes odds on for me, providing he finishes off he's fine work with the

and sends the ****s down.
Failing that, what's curbishley Upto these days?......

TPdYID · Apr 3, 2023

danielneeds said:
Why though? At this point we need to take some risks. Worse case scenario we’ll be back at square one after another sacking, but I don’t think we should be ruling young coaches out.

I didn’t read the OP to be necessarily attributing a problem with Carricks age, more his lack of experience.

(and yes I am aware that Arteta’s first solo job was Arsenal).

Trix · Apr 3, 2023

danielneeds said:
Why though? At this point we need to take some risks. Worse case scenario we’ll be back at square one after another sacking, but I don’t think we should be ruling young coaches out.

I think there are too many unknowns about them. They might both go on to be superb coaches but I think they need a year or two at least.

Hakkz · Apr 3, 2023

Teddy Klinsmann said:
Remember Gross won 2 titles in Switzerland before coming to us. I have similar concerns with a manager coming out of Holland in a 2/3 team league. Pretty much an unknown.

Gross was 25 years ago.
You worried about us doing a Leeds as well?

Albertbarich · Apr 3, 2023

Insightful thread on Rodgers

HedgieSpur · Apr 3, 2023

Jules77 said:
I’m with you. These talks of Potter being the ’bargain bin option’ and ‘optics’ or ‘Chelsea reject’ are filled with such decency bias from a situation already doomed to failure. The sort of short term thinking we’d be railing at if Levy was employing it. Potter has been hugely successful everywhere apart this recent 11 months.

TPdYID said:
Disagree and unfair of you to target this poster.

It’s been said by a lot of “football people” over the years that fans can often adopt the magpie approach of swooping down on something that looks shiny only to realise it’s rubbish.

Graham from Solihull who started his coaching career at Leeds Met Uni, doesn’t sound as fancy as [insert foreign name] from [insert foreign country] who’s previously worked alongside Pep.

Dress it up however way you like, but as a generalised comment, something new & exciting will always trump something that looks used but practical.

I didn’t read the OP comment to be manipulative, projecting or narrow minded in the slightest - you targeting the reply won’t do much for further engagement.

Its a lazy, narrow minded narrative imo. The people I see propagating it essentially are saying that others are not capable of independent, articulate thought but default to base level. Its insulting imo. There are many reasons for Ana against having Potter as our manager, but his ethnicity, name, nationality have not even entered the discussion.

archiewasking · Apr 3, 2023

TPdYID said:
Aye! I’ll see it right that the Dutch league isn’t mocked or used as a stick to beat someone with. Didn’t Vincent Janssen…..never mind

Leave my hero alone! Doing well in the Belgian Pro League, I'll have you know!!!

Hakkz · Apr 3, 2023

TEESSIDE1 said:
A few years ago Ajax were a force to be reckoned with but these days they’ve lost their best players. They’re a shadow of their former selves. PSV are average and although Feyenoord look like becoming champions when you look at the calibre of players they’ve have may be 1 or 2 who look decent… as an example they play Jahanbakhsh as a wide forward. Whilst at Brighton he scored a stunning 2 goals in 52 games. I’m not playing down Slot’s achievements but the standard in the Dutch league or the quality of players isn’t what it once was. People will say they turned over Shakhtar Donetsk 7-1, they did but look at the state of their squad and circumstances (war), they’re nowhere near as good as they once were.

I doubt we would beat Shakhtar tbh.

Freddie · Apr 3, 2023

-Afri-Coy- said:
No it’s not.

Give potter whatever praise you think he deserves but Brighton’s recruitment is down to an implementation of a strategy at board level, that applies to the recruitment of managers who fit a certain ethos, Potter included.

That is why they are doing well under De Zerbi and it’s also a reason why I would put a * next to both Potter and De Zerbi’s name. The club gives managers a platform to shine.

Not aimed specifically at you but I’m tired of seeing potter supporters saying that Brighton are only doing as well as they are because of Potter, that’s complete hogwash. They are doing as well as they are because they have a solid strategy from the board level down to the youth level, that they have been implementing for a few years already.

Not aimed at you but but I'm tired of people attributing opinions to people when they haven't said them. Find me one single post of someone saying Brighton only did well because of Potter... Just one. Not even on this site, Anywhere on the internet will do.

I didn't even mention recruitment. Everyone agrees that they have a good set-up where every part of the football operation works in harmony. That doesn't mean that the individual constituent parts aren't doing a good job. They have all been recruited because they have certain qualities, but of course it's a greater risk when looking to sign those individuals without the structure. People said Trossard wouldn't work well outside of the Brighton system. Ben White is also doing well. Maupay less so. Brighton did well in large part because of Potter's tactics and man-management of players. He left them in a much better place than when he joined. He's a very good coach. I think he'd do well for us but I also get he's a risk (with our set-up).

TEESSIDE1 · Apr 3, 2023

TPdYID said:
You’re absolutely right. To give context to the “leaving Boro’s automatic promotion hopes in tatters” bit, the sheer idea that MBoro would even entertain this idea when he signed is the equivalent of expecting someone to be taken serious as they search for a one-ended stick.

But I presume by your username you’re better placed to discuss the merits of Mboro.

He’s performed a miracle turning them around from where they were when he took over, to get them in such a great position only to fluff their lines in 3 away games against Sunderland, WBA and Huddersfield, leaving them closer to a 6th place finish never mind promotion, a position they were at one point only 2 points behind Sheff Utd. Big games, big points at stake and they failed to turn up.

The Apprentice · Apr 3, 2023

ethanedwards said:
Anyone seen anything of Middlesbrough this season, on how Carrick sets the team up.

They had their pants pulled down by Neil Warnock's relegation fodder Huddersfield at the weekend. Sounds ideal to me.

EastLondonYid · Apr 3, 2023

I wouldn't mind Rodgers, with Astaire as his no.2.

Freddie · Apr 3, 2023

danielneeds said:
People forget Brighton were a very compact but meat and potatoes team under Hughton. Potter evolved them into a possession team and took some rough results along the way in that journey.

Do I think he’d be right for us? No, he’s a good coach and develops players well, but he lacks that alpha-ness that the really top managers have. A little bit of the devil in them.

I didn't forget that. Said it in my previous post!

danielneeds said:
Why though? At this point we need to take some risks. Worse case scenario we’ll be back at square one after another sacking, but I don’t think we should be ruling young coaches out.

Not so much about age but I think managers need to go through struggles to see how they come out of it. A lot of promising young coaches have been flying high in their first job and then they never recover after the honeymoon period when they have a wobble. Requires some mental fortitude, game understanding and tactical nous. We haven't seen Kompany or Carrick face this yet. In fact Kompany was quite underwhelming at Anderlecht throughout.

TEESSIDE1 · Apr 3, 2023

The Apprentice said:
They had their pants pulled down by Neil Warnock's relegation fodder Huddersfield at the weekend. Sounds ideal to me.

The Huddersfield coaching staff and fans couldn’t believe it… Boro capitulated at the back

TPdYID · Apr 3, 2023

HedgieSpur said:
Its a lazy, narrow minded narrative imo. The people I see propagating it essentially are saying that others are not capable of independent, articulate thought but default to base level. Its insulting imo. There are many reasons for Ana against having Potter as our manager, but his ethnicity, name, nationality have not even entered the discussion.

Nobody’s saying it’s right.

But when you walk in the boulangerie in the south of France and pick yourself out a Crème anglaise, everything about that purchase feels right. It’s the ambience, the mood, the setting, the timing - everything just feels right.

Now picture; walking down Enfield high street and popping into Greggs for an ‘Egg Custard’, it just doesn’t have the same appeal.

EastLondonYid · Apr 3, 2023

The Apprentice said:
They had their pants pulled down by Neil Warnock's relegation fodder Huddersfield at the weekend. Sounds ideal to me.

And Rodgers by oap Hodgson..

Most attempts recorded for years by palace..

Get him in to work with our backline.

PrettyColors · Apr 3, 2023

Slot has a massive Dutch Cup match against Ajax on Wednesday if you’d like to tune in and see the experience firsthand. I’m all in.

Styopa · Apr 3, 2023

Freddie said:
Not aimed at you but but I'm tired of people attributing opinions to people when they haven't said them. Find me one single post of someone saying Brighton only did well because of Potter... Just one. Not even on this site, Anywhere on the internet will do.

Yeah. I've actually posted elsewhere about this too. People quickly pounce on a single line and construct whole narratives around it. It's something about modern discourse in general; there's a real tendency to paint each other into extreme positions.

Like I think most people here are more or less on the same page about Potter. That he did a decent job at Brighton and should be respected for that. But still, there are legitimate reasons why we might not want him at Spurs. But just look how quickly the discussion splits into these opposing camps with each one digging in and becoming more entrenched in their view.

danielneeds · Apr 3, 2023

Trix said:
I think there are too many unknowns about them. They might both go on to be superb coaches but I think they need a year or two at least.

If they do, then they’ll probably go straight to Chelsea, United, City, bypassing us. We need to take some risks or we’ll fade into midtable post-Kane IMO.

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