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Styopa · Apr 3, 2023

-Afri-Coy- said:
No it’s not.

Give potter whatever praise you think he deserves but Brighton’s recruitment is down to an implementation of a strategy at board level, that applies to the recruitment of managers who fit a certain ethos, Potter included.

That is why they are doing well under De Zerbi and it’s also a reason why I would put a * next to both Potter and De Zerbi’s name. The club gives managers a platform to shine.

Not aimed specifically at you but I’m tired of seeing potter supporters saying that Brighton are only doing as well as they are because of Potter, that’s complete hogwash. They are doing as well as they are because they have a solid strategy from the board level down to the youth level, that they have been implementing for a few years already.

I suspect you're right. But I think we need to wait and see what happens with Brighton over the next couple of seasons. De Zerbi has only been in charge for 20 Premier League matches, which is nothing really. Just over half a season. Brighton have spent the vast majority of their time in the Premier League under Potter.

It will be interesting to see how De Zerbi does next season or how Brighton do when they replace De Zerbi.

Teddy Klinsmann · Apr 3, 2023

Remember Gross won 2 titles in Switzerland before coming to us. I have similar concerns with a manager coming out of Holland in a 2/3 team league. Pretty much an unknown.

Ginola+Tonic · Apr 3, 2023

Guntz said:
I think we need a good defensive manager who can come in and steady the ship.

Maybe Steve Cooper could be a good shout? Young, British, and knows the league.

But failing that, a manager who plays a back 5 would be ideal in order to get the best out of Perisic.

We can then integrate Ndombele and Lo Celso back into the team as creative midfielders with a solid base of Sanchez, Dier, and Lenglet behind them.

There are a lot of players coming back on loan so I doubt we will need many/if any transfers in the summer - as any half-decent manager should be able to get a tune out of them.

Do I sound like Levy yet?

Sorry you lost me at defensive manager!!!

Bluto Blutarsky · Apr 3, 2023

Now it's Spursonal said:
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My tier-list. Would throw Kompany in B aswell.

Civ VI Leader tiers?

TPdYID · Apr 3, 2023

Teddy Klinsmann said:
Remember Gross won 2 titles in Switzerland before coming to us. I have similar concerns with a manager coming out of Holland in a 2/3 team league. Pretty much an unknown.

Aye! I’ll see it right that the Dutch league isn’t mocked or used as a stick to beat someone with. Didn’t Vincent Janssen…..never mind

Zino · Apr 3, 2023

Guntz said:
I think we need a good defensive manager who can come in and steady the ship.

Maybe Steve Cooper could be a good shout? Young, British, and knows the league.

But failing that, a manager who plays a back 5 would be ideal in order to get the best out of Perisic.

We can then integrate Ndombele and Lo Celso back into the team as creative midfielders with a solid base of Sanchez, Dier, and Lenglet behind them.

There are a lot of players coming back on loan so I doubt we will need many/if any transfers in the summer - as any half-decent manager should be able to get a tune out of them.

Do I sound like Levy yet?

Not gonna lie, you nearly got me

TPdYID · Apr 3, 2023

Guntz said:
I think we need a good defensive manager who can come in and steady the ship.

Maybe Steve Cooper could be a good shout? Young, British, and knows the league.

But failing that, a manager who plays a back 5 would be ideal in order to get the best out of Perisic.

We can then integrate Ndombele and Lo Celso back into the team as creative midfielders with a solid base of Sanchez, Dier, and Lenglet behind them.

There are a lot of players coming back on loan so I doubt we will need many/if any transfers in the summer - as any half-decent manager should be able to get a tune out of them.

Do I sound like Levy yet?

Don’t say it…
Don’t say it…
Don’t say it…
Don’t say it…
Don’t say it…
Don’t say it…
Don’t say it…
Don’t say it…
MUST NOT say…

Levy is that you?

fishhhandaricecake · Apr 3, 2023

YB123 said:
What makes me laugh is "But Potter never given a proper number 9 at Brighton or Chelsea"

Look at De Zerbi with Brighton now.

Its nonsense.

It’s funny we all joke on here about him being Graham xG Potter and in his final presser at Chelsea he said “If you look at the stats the shots the attacking actions we played a good game but people will look at the scoreline”

Yes Graham that is generally how it works on football people will check the score line and if their team hasn’t scored they won’t be best pleased

Not for me thanks, I’d actually prefer Rodgers over Potter (not that I want either of them particularly tbh)

EastLondonYid · Apr 3, 2023

Ginola+Tonic said:
Sorry you lost me at defensive manager!!!

Get this then...some are saying we should go for a coach who just got sacked because his team is going down....

fishhhandaricecake · Apr 3, 2023

Teddy Klinsmann said:
Remember Gross won 2 titles in Switzerland before coming to us. I have similar concerns with a manager coming out of Holland in a 2/3 team league. Pretty much an unknown.

Swiss League doesn’t compare to quality of the Dutch league and players and technical abilities etc but I get your concerns.

Now it's Spursonal · Apr 3, 2023

Trix said:
What the actual fuck is this?

Back to your Mums basement with you quick smart I say.

It’s a tier-list expressing my opinions on our next manager in the ‘Next Manager’ thread on a discussion forum mate.

Bizarrely agitated reply imo.

Respect your posts normally and always appreciate you passing on info, but just because I don’t have any inside info doesn’t mean I can’t have an opinion.

-Afri-Coy- · Apr 3, 2023

Now it's Spursonal said:
It’s a tier-list expressing my opinions on our next manager in the ‘Next Manager’ thread on a discussion forum mate.

Bizarrely agitated reply imo.

Respect your posts normally and always appreciate you passing on info, but just because I don’t have any inside info doesn’t mean I can’t have an opinion.

I’m certain it was a tongue in cheek joke with zero malicious intent.

TEESSIDE1 · Apr 3, 2023

TPdYID said:
#Carrickball appears to be the football’istas championship equivalent of #Xaviball and prior to that #Potterball.

Jokes aside he’s got Middlesbrough playing some crazy possession based football. Their upturn in results since his appointment has been day & night.

He’s done very well overall, just don’t watch the match from the weekend when the equivalent of Southampton (Huddersfield) blew them away… leaving Boro’s automatic promotion hopes in tatters.

Trix · Apr 3, 2023

Now it's Spursonal said:
It’s a tier-list expressing my opinions on our next manager in the ‘Next Manager’ thread on a discussion forum mate.

Bizarrely agitated reply imo.

Respect your posts normally and always appreciate you passing on info, but just because I don’t have any inside info doesn’t mean I can’t have an opinion.

I'm just yanking your chain matey. I'm an old timer who has no time for all these newly invented stats, or imo pointless graphic charts and stuff. I guess I'm just a miserable old sod at the end of the day so just ignore me.

onthetwo · Apr 3, 2023

EastLondonYid said:
Get this then...some are saying we should go for a coach who just got sacked because his team is going down....

Weve had the proven winners (Jose & Conte), the project coaches (Poch & AVB), a few caretakers (Mason & Stellini) a few old-school types (Man in raincoat & Arry) and a few outright panics (Nuno most notably) so by process of elimination i think a project coach where the project failed is the last piece of the puzzle!
Bingo!"

-Afri-Coy- · Apr 3, 2023

Trix said:
I'm just yanking your chain matey. I'm an old timer who has no time for all these newly invented stats, or imo pointless graphic charts and stuff. I guess I'm just a miserable old sod at the end of the day so just ignore me.

Miserable old sod? Hi Daniel.

TEESSIDE1 · Apr 3, 2023

fishhhandaricecake said:
Swiss League doesn’t compare to quality of the Dutch league and players and technical abilities etc but I get your concerns.

A few years ago Ajax were a force to be reckoned with but these days they’ve lost their best players. They’re a shadow of their former selves. PSV are average and although Feyenoord look like becoming champions when you look at the calibre of players they’ve have may be 1 or 2 who look decent… as an example they play Jahanbakhsh as a wide forward. Whilst at Brighton he scored a stunning 2 goals in 52 games. I’m not playing down Slot’s achievements but the standard in the Dutch league or the quality of players isn’t what it once was. People will say they turned over Shakhtar Donetsk 7-1, they did but look at the state of their squad and circumstances (war), they’re nowhere near as good as they once were.

danielneeds · Apr 3, 2023

Freddie said:
They went through periods when they didn't win or score and it looked like they were doomed but they turned it around.

Dude, he was managing Brighton. That isn't a bad CV with what he had available. What De Zerbi is doing now is massively thanks to Potter's work.

People forget Brighton were a very compact but meat and potatoes team under Hughton. Potter evolved them into a possession team and took some rough results along the way in that journey.

Do I think he’d be right for us? No, he’s a good coach and develops players well, but he lacks that alpha-ness that the really top managers have. A little bit of the devil in them.

TPdYID · Apr 3, 2023

TEESSIDE1 said:
He’s done very well overall, just don’t watch the match from the weekend when the equivalent of Southampton (Huddersfield) blew them away… leaving Boro’s automatic promotion hopes in tatters.

You’re absolutely right. To give context to the “leaving Boro’s automatic promotion hopes in tatters” bit, the sheer idea that MBoro would even entertain this idea when he signed is the equivalent of expecting someone to be taken serious as they search for a one-ended stick.

But I presume by your username you’re better placed to discuss the merits of Mboro.

danielneeds · Apr 3, 2023

Trix said:
I like Carrick but regardless of how he sets up there's no way he should be in the running same as Kompany imo.

Why though? At this point we need to take some risks. Worse case scenario we’ll be back at square one after another sacking, but I don’t think we should be ruling young coaches out.

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