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Yantino

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I want ENIC out and have done for ages. But I don’t see how that realistically happens. They will expect a premium for it during a time of recession, so although we as fans have the right to voice our displeasure (and we certainly should make our displeasure known), in reality it makes no difference.

the ONLY way you change the situation is not going to games, not renewing your season tickets, not buying merchandise. But they know you’re not going to do that.
 

SUIYHA

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Anyone know when the annual report is released? It's usually in November but hasn't come out for last season yet (first full year in the new stadium with crowds inside).

Part of me was thinking they are holding back till after the window because announcing that we've made massive profits will weaken our bargaining position. Perhaps the plan though is to show investors how big the profit generating potential can be by avoiding significant outlays on transfers whilst in the Champions League.

But remember - we need at least £147m in profit to be in the black for the last 3 seasons - any less and we are still in the red.
 

sundanceyid10

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I haven’t heard a number but enough snippets to know we are not spending what our former top 4 rivals are this window. I don’t think there is any Club buyers waiting at the moment so I don’t see where all this ends.
Is anyone really surprised? Honestly.
 

DarwinSpur

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Who should take us over? Does it matter? Probably not but still...

What do we demand these new owners do? Should we run a poll so we can all be on board with what we demand? What is it we all demand? Pay highest wages in PL? Is that what it takes?
 

Pochemon94

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Who should take us over? Does it matter? Probably not but still...

What do we demand these new owners do? Should we run a poll so we can all be on board with what we demand? What is it we all demand? Pay highest wages in PL? Is that what it takes?
Jeff Bezos. He wouldn't want to own a losing team and will prob pay whatever it takes to big dick everyone
 

chrissivad

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To try and turn a profit. We have no culture aimed at winning … you know trophies. Well we did once upon a time a long long time ago, now we have a bean counter.

We only seem to target the league or CL.

We just need to win something.... League cup, fa cup.... Any of the European cups

The players Conte and past managers want seem to have a pick of clubs to join. We don't offer the best wages, Or a chancer at silverware.

Our transfer budget and wage structure need to dramatically increase to compete.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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But what does it do - really?

Absolutely nothing. May help vent personal frustration but they’re not going to sell.

The income remains unaffected. So they will not care.
I don’t actually agree with that mate, #notogattuso stopped us hiring him.

Protests after and during Nuno’s time influenced his sacking and the hiring of conte as Levy and the board could see the fans were turning on the board.

Protests against owners have made a difference at Man.U, Arsenal, Liverpool etc.

Also I doubt constant protests would do much good PR for Levy/ENIC, the value of the club and it could make uncle joe take note of the protests are big enough and serious enough.

We won’t know unless we try and it’s been 20 years of rinse and repeat and sucking the soul out of our great football club, we owe it to the club to speak up and try, so so many now are finally waking up and smelling the coffee when it comes to Levy meddling on the football side and leading this constant cycle of hire and fire and poor player recruitment and a mess of a plan and chopping and changing of strategy on the football side. Let’s not let Stockholm syndrome kick in, let’s take action now and get Levy out the door.

Enough is enough.
 
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fishhhandaricecake

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I want ENIC out and have done for ages. But I don’t see how that realistically happens. They will expect a premium for it during a time of recession, so although we as fans have the right to voice our displeasure (and we certainly should make our displeasure known), in reality it makes no difference.

the ONLY way you change the situation is not going to games, not renewing your season tickets, not buying merchandise. But they know you’re not going to do that.
But unless literally no one turns up or buys anything they’ll always get enough fans turning up because the poor suckers just can’t stay away so for me the only way to get to them is to protest in huge numbers and consistently, anything other than that won’t make a shit of a difference i’m afraid :(
 

spursfan77

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Anyone know when the annual report is released? It's usually in November but hasn't come out for last season yet (first full year in the new stadium with crowds inside).

Part of me was thinking they are holding back till after the window because announcing that we've made massive profits will weaken our bargaining position. Perhaps the plan though is to show investors how big the profit generating potential can be by avoiding significant outlays on transfers whilst in the Champions League.

But remember - we need at least £147m in profit to be in the black for the last 3 seasons - any less and we are still in the red.

Levy will probably try and be clever and release it in February but all that will do if huge profits are announced and we don’t buy anyone this month is produce more anger in the fanbase that they aren’t spending any money. It will back fire. But like others have said, they won’t care. They give zero fucks about the fans.
 

DarwinSpur

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We only seem to target the league or CL.

We just need to win something.... League cup, fa cup.... Any of the European cups

The players Conte and past managers want seem to have a pick of clubs to join. We don't offer the best wages, Or a chancer at silverware.

Our transfer budget and wage structure need to dramatically increase to compete.

Huh? Since when?

We made a League Cup final under Poch. And under Mourinho.

We made semi finals of the FA Cup multiple times under Poch.

When we got dumped out of EL in recent seasons it wasn't because we were "throwing it" (we just played shit instead)- I can only think of one time where we did that in EL and that was Vs Dortmund under Poch.

Our transfer budget has been rising since the end of the pandemic and full use of stadium.

It's wages that we lag behind in. A situation only going to get worse with Newcastle and PIF.
 

pablo73

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But what does it do - really?

Absolutely nothing. May help vent personal frustration but they’re not going to sell.

The income remains unaffected. So they will not care

Maybe so but the least we can do is make things a bit uncomfortable for him, at this point he is an anchor dragging us down but is far too arrogant to ever see it.

Great businessman/property investor but knows fuck all about football.
 

thelak

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But what does it do - really?

Absolutely nothing. May help vent personal frustration but they’re not going to sell.

The income remains unaffected. So they will not care.

that could be said about many protest movements that have turned into something more tangible and effective over time

It’s better than doing nothing and remaining passive
 

DarwinSpur

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I don’t actually agree with that mate, #notogattuso stopped us hiring him
Protests after and during Nuno time influenced his sacking and the hiring of conte as Levy and the board could see the fans were turning on the board

Protests against owners have made a difference at Man.U, Arsenal, Liverpool etc

Also I doubt constant protests would do much good PR for Levy/ENIC, the value of the club and it could make uncle joe take note of the protests are big enough and serious enough.

We won’t know unless we try and it’s been 20 years of rinse and repeat and sucking the soul out of our great football club, we owe it to the club to speak up and try, so so many now are finally waking up and smelling the coffee when it comes to Levy meddling on the football side and leading this constant cycle of hire and fire and poor player recruitment and a mess of a plan and chopping and changing of strategy on the football side.

Enough is enough.

I'm sorry I know things are shit right now but this is ridiculous. Since Enic took over fully in 2006 we've managed to close the gaping chasm that opened up between us and the Top 4 in the 20 years before they took over. To accuse Enic of sucking the soul out of "our great club" which was mired in shit since the early 90's is just ludicrous.

We're still in Tottenham. In a World Class stadium. And - despite the shit last few months - still attracting the so called elite managers and world cup winning players.

Sure Enic out and fresh blood and all that but jeessuusss...
 

Stoof

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that could be said about many protest movements that have turned into something more tangible and effective over time

It’s better than doing nothing and remaining passive
Yes, but not one relating to strong-arming a person into selling something below market-value when they have zero reason to, and by which there are no (legal) actions that you can take to change that or the market conditions.

I'm as fed up as the next person. But he's not going to sell, so it is genuinely a pointless endeavour.
 
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