isaac94
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nah prime liechsteiner and asamoah were quality and his most trusted, way better than what we have today
Player Watch - Djed Spence - Genoa
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JayB
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Agreed on all counts. There’s no questioning Conte’s CV but there are obviously times where he can be stubborn to a fault.
HedgieSpur
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This is very erudite and eloquent but it reads as confirmation bias and that’s you’ve curve fitted a solid performance by Spence to fit pre-prepared “he’s not ready” narrative imo.
Im not criticising you, it just reads that way to me.
I thought his pace, power and penetration were very welcome and showed us the art of the possible at RWB. I’d like to see a lot more before making a judgment on him, but there were encouraging songs and I’m yet to see why Emerson is the preferred RWB.
DanielJohnCosta
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we tried telling you all ??
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I came here to say the same thing, this is one thing that Conte is getting wrong.
I like the look of him, but you can see he needs game time to find a grove. He was a true menace for Forest last season, but he played consistently.
Nick-TopSpursMan
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Needs game time to learn about his team mates and the patterns they play with.
Knowing when to overlap Deki, when to underlap, when to run with the ball to create space and when to run off the ball too.
He will pick this up much, much faster if he’s playing games regularly. He doesn’t have to start every match but you can’t tell me he shouldn’t be playing more matches and coming on as a sub in other matches.
He may not become top class but we will never know unless he plays and at least he actually tries to get forward like a wing back, has the raw tools and brings that pace and energy which we are sorely lacking.
Yeah it was weird he kept ignoring Kulu. He should be passing to Kulu and then overlapping him to make space. He kept standing in side strangely with no real plan
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He’s got great pace which is something we lack but I got to be honest I don’t see it with him atm. The same when I saw him for Forest no big picture or awareness while running with it. Always get the feeling he’s going to overrun the ball and seems like his runs off the ball are moving into the space of others. I’m in the middle, I think Conte should’ve given him a few more opportunities but I can see why he’s not convinced.
DanielJohnCosta
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you can still support Conte and also realise he's totally fucked the development of Spence at the same time
chrissivad
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He hasn't fucked his development.
We can question why he isn't getting game time after he put in an appearance like he did last night.
He is raw, fine, he will make mistakes, but we are seeing mistakes at RWB anyway and no attacking threat.
I would take mistakes at the back with potential attacking threat over mistakes and no attacking threat.
We can question why he isn't getting game time after he put in an appearance like he did last night.
He is raw, fine, he will make mistakes, but we are seeing mistakes at RWB anyway and no attacking threat.
I would take mistakes at the back with potential attacking threat over mistakes and no attacking threat.
crokey
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Hahahaha
It's November of the lads first season. "Totally fucked his development" good grief
Yiddo100
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He’s definitely not fucked his development at all, I’m sure he’ll of learned a hell of a lot from conte even by not playing for 3 months.
It’s November and after next week spence and others will have a full month getting to know contes tactics on the training ground, which with games every Sunday /Wednesday Probably hasn’t happened an awful lot, or at least as much as everyone would like, as most of the days are spent recovering.
Whether Spence goes on loan or can get higher in the RWB pecking order after Christmas, I’m sure he’ll be a better player for it.
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I can understand Conte not initially trusting Spence as the kid's young, raw and was a club signing. Conte will pick a player he 'trusts' and who will carry out his game plan over a more maverick player every time so it was natural he'd take a while to bed Spence into the team.
I think for Spence to still be getting so few minutes and barely even featuring off the bench just seems extremely odd at this point though. There are plenty of games when we're on the front foot in the second half and need a goal back, or are against inferior teams with little attacking threat down our right, yet we persist with Royal who is abysmal going forward.
I'm starting to wonder if it's sheer stubbornness - a message to the club not to make 'club signings' and to give him the players he specifically wants? Or there's something going on in training that Conte doesn't like?
All very weird, regardless.
I think for Spence to still be getting so few minutes and barely even featuring off the bench just seems extremely odd at this point though. There are plenty of games when we're on the front foot in the second half and need a goal back, or are against inferior teams with little attacking threat down our right, yet we persist with Royal who is abysmal going forward.
I'm starting to wonder if it's sheer stubbornness - a message to the club not to make 'club signings' and to give him the players he specifically wants? Or there's something going on in training that Conte doesn't like?
All very weird, regardless.
Gilzean at the near post
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The frustrating thing is that the alternatives, Royal and Doherty are not doing well so the 'risk' of giving him a chance is lower. Also if he went on loan he presumably would not be learning the Conte all important 'system' so that would be counter productive. He needs to be given a chance here and will freshen up the team
DanielJohnCosta
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28 total minutes of football for a young player no worse than what's starting is fucking his development IMO
Nick-TopSpursMan
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This is exactly what it is imo and after last night, if he doesn’t get any meaningful minutes against Leeds we will all know it’s true for sure.
Gilzean at the near post
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If you're a promising young player why on earth would you choose to join Spurs? Gil, Spence and Sarr have had a terrible experience since joining. It's really sad that our club has turned out this way and bodes badly for future young players joining
Trix
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Well you won't, You'll still only believe it to be the case.
Nick-TopSpursMan
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It’s especially sad because we used to be really good at it and bringing through and signing young talents is one of the major reasons we managed to break in and create the ‘Big 6’.
Walker, Rose, Bale, Lennon, Dele etc.
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