Match Threads Rennes vs Spurs - Match Thread - ECL - KO 5.45 pm

Russ1201 · Sep 16, 2021

Mr Pink said:
For the first time in 20 years I forgot we were playing tonight.

Wish i did, can someone wake me up when we starting playing attacking front foot football please ?

Hotspur33 · Sep 16, 2021

I think it's important to remember that whenever we have played in the Europa League, the football has always been a hard watch. Even when we were "good".
I'm not going to over react to a bad performance here.
The result is not the end of the world.

Aphex · Sep 16, 2021

rossdapep said:
I can understand Kane to be honest.

How can you get motivated for this tournament when your ability should mean you are playing CL football?

We can't say that he shouldn't be turning his nose up at this. I mean, he made his name in the EL and you should move up in your career and closer to titles/elite games....not further away.

Just imagine what he feels like watching Grealish make his debut in the CL and having the time of his life. Kane would score 6 goals a game in that side. He must feel absolutely gutted. If I was in his shoes I'd be feeling really low about my club football at the moment no doubt. We are going absolutely nowhere and IF by a miracle we do manage to turn it around and start improving again, he will be 31 and in the twilight of his career before we get competitive and close to CL football again.

Locotoro · Sep 16, 2021

You folks really need a bit of context.

We're playing a champions League team who just spent £70m on new transfers whilst we had several players unavailable and a further two players go off injured.

We had close to 60% possession, which is what all the football connoisseurs were asking for. We had 10 shots and we drew the match against arguably one of the competition's other favourites.

This place is literally an echo chamber of despair each post looking to outdo the last in trying to sound more miserable and dejected. Perspective!!!! We've got a season tally of P7 W4 D1 L2 in all competitions. Considering the number of squad disruptions we've had that's not bad. Yes we lost to a team we should have beat, but we also beat a team we should have lost to. That's football.

Can we have two separate threads for those that just want to moan and those that want to have reasoned discussion

PLTuck · Sep 16, 2021

Having only watched the 2nd half, I quite enjoyed it which I appreciate is heresy on here. I knew it'd be a hard game. Anyone that thought we were going to waltz it is being pretty disrespectful to Rennes who are a talent factory.

Bryan was trying really hard. Worked his bollocks off and tried to make things happen every time he got the ball. Sublime touch to kill the ball stone cold in the 80th minute. Berbatov-esque.

NDombele is fun to watch when he fancies it.

Spurs finsh above West Ham for god knows how many years.
West Ham finish above Spurs once. West Ham have overtaken Spurs. Fuck me backwards through a dinosaur hedge.

Never change SC.

Serpico · Sep 16, 2021

The players are there its a matter of getting them playing together with spirit and confidence. This is the last time said- Kanes antics has caused some of this crap. Nuno is a very unlucky with everything thats gone on to disrupt the start of the season. Get through the next few weeks without too much woe and betters days could follow.

Aphex · Sep 16, 2021

Locotoro said:
You folks really need a bit of context.

We're playing a champions League team who just spent £70m on new transfers whilst having several players unavailable, two players go off injured.

We had close to 60% possession, which is what all the football connoisseurs were asking for. We had 10 shots and we drew the match against arguably one of the competition's other favourites.

This place is literally an echo chamber of despair each post looking to outdo the last in trying to sound more miserable and dejected. Perspective!!!! We've got a season tally of P7 W4 D1 L2 in all competitions. Considering the number of squad disruptions we've had that's not bad. Yes we lost to a team we should have beat, but we also beat a team we should have lost to. That's football.

Can we have two separate threads for those that just want to moan and those that want to have reasoned discussion

A season tally of P7 W4 D1 L2 means nothing when you look at the context of how those points were accumulated. We look rubbish and to me it already looks like the players aren't feeling it under this coach, seen the signs before. I'm calling it now, this will be one of the shortest reigns as a Spurs manager ever. Levy didn't want Nuno in the first place apparently, had to be convinced, when Levy sees the crowd turn he will be áha I told you so', he will shit himself and Paratici will pull the trigger.

Furthermore, Kane's output this season will drop off considerably this season, in part because of last summer, but also because of our turgid style of play. The only thing that propped us up last season were Kane and Son and they won't have another season like last one. = us well down in midtable.

This idea that Nuno needs time to implement his ideas, nah, top coaches make immediate impacts. Even Benitez has Everton playing with a bit of swagger. If Nuno couldn't have got it right when we had the whole pre-season, how will he get it right when games are twice a week?

This idea that we give him 6 months and all of a sudden we will be playing free flowing attacking football, I just don't see it. Even Son and Kane look shite under Nuno, so he's even worse than Jose. By this time last season Kane and Son were on about 10 goals and assist between them.

thebenjamin · Sep 16, 2021

Aphex said:
Just imagine what he feels like watching Grealish make his debut in the CL and having the time of his life. Kane would score 6 goals a game in that side. He must feel absolutely gutted. If I was in his shoes I'd be feeling really low about my club football at the moment no doubt. We are going absolutely nowhere and IF by a miracle we do manage to turn it around and start improving again, he will be 31 and in the twilight of his career before we get competitive and close to CL football again.

I can't blame him. I honestly can't. I don't think he's consciously giving less than his best. But what hope is there for him this season?

fishhhandaricecake · Sep 16, 2021

Hakkz said:
Invisible.

Serpico · Sep 16, 2021

Tonight we didnt play together as a team but somehow got a decent result. That can only be a good thing. Nuno will not do a JM and be stubborn , he will look for other ways to make it work. Nuno likes using as few players as possible which with many injuries is not possible. Most coaches stumble on a formula that works, Nuno needs some luck, I believe in him.

Amo · Sep 16, 2021

Aphex said:
A season tally of P7 W4 D1 L2 means nothing

It means four wins and a draw from seven matches with one of those losses being the academy team plus Lo Celso and the other being with 10 men and our 5th choice CBs.

Are you seriously suggesting he should be sacked with the results he's achieved achieved so far? You've written a lot without actually saying it explicitly. Is that your position?

fishhhandaricecake · Sep 16, 2021

Aphex said:
A season tally of P7 W4 D1 L2 means nothing when you look at the context of how those points were accumulated. We look rubbish and to me it already looks like the players aren't feeling it under this coach, seen the signs before. I'm calling it now, this will be one of the shortest reigns as a Spurs manager ever. Levy didn't want Nuno in the first place apparently, had to be convinced, when Levy sees the crowd turn he will be áha I told you so', he will shit himself and Paratici will pull the trigger.

Furthermore, Kane's output this season will drop off considerably this season, in part because of last summer, but also because of our turgid style of play. The only thing that propped us up last season were Kane and Son and they won't have another season like last one. = us well down in midtable.

This idea that Nuno needs time to implement his ideas, nah, top coaches make immediate impacts. Even Benitez has Everton playing with a bit of swagger. If Nuno couldn't have got it right when we had the whole pre-season, how will he get it right when games are twice a week?

This idea that we give him 6 months and all of a sudden we will be playing free flowing attacking football, I just don't see it. Even Son and Kane look shite under Nuno, so he's even worse than Jose. By this time last season Kane and Son were on about 10 goals and assist between them.

PEH’s interview after was interesting when they asked about how it’s going under Nuno and he hesitated and didn’t sound all too convinced or excited tbh. Mabye reading too much into it but tbh I agree with your points anyways

spursram · Sep 16, 2021

thebenjamin said:
Really don't think it's exaggerating to suggest we could be dragged into a relegation battle this season. It has all the hallmarks of it. Squad in chaos. Best player desperate to leave. Injury crisis already. South American players away for the best part of the next 5 months. Manager serving up horrible football meaning the atmosphere in the stadium will turn quickly toxic. No goals in the side. No creativity at all, barely even created a chance this season. No part of the side is functioning even adequately. Zero strength in depth. Confidence already shattered....

There's no game I would be confident of winning. Certainly not a Premier League game. We are in serious trouble.

Maybe you have been on a long holiday or something but we have actually won 3 out of 4 games already, including against last seasons PL champions. If you haven't been on a long holiday, my apologies, but I suggest maybe now is the right time.

fishhhandaricecake · Sep 16, 2021

chrissivad said:
I have only been able to dip in and out of the match, but I have hardly seen him.

Touch hasn't been great, and I haven't seen him try and take anyone on

Hmm that’s not so promising but thanks for the info mate. Still a young raw talent and hard to play well if the team isn’t playing well and tricky away tie.

He is one who needs time for sure.

fishhhandaricecake · Sep 16, 2021

thebenjamin said:
Really don't think it's exaggerating to suggest we could be dragged into a relegation battle this season. It has all the hallmarks of it. Squad in chaos. Best player desperate to leave. Injury crisis already. South American players away for the best part of the next 5 months. Manager serving up horrible football meaning the atmosphere in the stadium will turn quickly toxic. No goals in the side. No creativity at all, barely even created a chance this season. No part of the side is functioning even adequately. Zero strength in depth. Confidence already shattered....

There's no game I would be confident of winning. Certainly not a Premier League game. We are in serious trouble.

This can’t be serious surely?

thebenjamin · Sep 16, 2021

fishhhandaricecake said:
This can’t be serious surely?

It's perfectly serious. I'm not saying we're going to get relegated. But I can absolutely see us getting dragged down towards the bottom 6/8. One medium-term injury to Son or Kane and I don't see how we can possibly cope.

We couldn't score a goal from open play against Wolves, Watford or Crystal Palace. In fact we couldn't even really fashion an opportunity to score.

Aphex · Sep 16, 2021

Amo said:
It means four wins and a draw from seven matches with one of those losses being the academy team plus Lo Celso and the other being with 10 men and our 5th choice CBs.

Are you seriously suggesting he should be sacked with the results he's achieved achieved so far? You've written a lot without actually saying it explicitly. Is that your position?

No, my position is I can already see how this is going to go. He won't work out, the club and fans will waste a season finding that out and he will be sacked at some point in the next 6 months.

I want it to work, he's a nice guy if not a little dull, but he isn't going to have us playing slick passing football. At best it will be Jose ball but not as effective. You can already see the signs everywhere you look. He's not entirely to blame as our squad is bang average is so many places, but he wasn't the right appointment. As ever though the real villian is quite a few levels above Nuno.

Aphex · Sep 16, 2021

fishhhandaricecake said:
PEH’s interview after was interesting when they asked about how it’s going under Nuno and he hesitated and didn’t sound all too convinced or excited tbh. Mabye reading too much into it but tbh I agree with your points anyways

Yep I thought exactly the same when I saw it. I don't believe the players are buying into it already, but time will tell on that.

Amo · Sep 16, 2021

Aphex said:
No, my position is I can already see how this is going to go. He won't work out, the club and fans will waste a season finding that out and he will be sacked at some point in the next 6 months.

So are you saying you know he will be deserving the sack in the near future but that it isn't your position that he should be sacked now?

How is that logically consistent? Surely if you know it wont work out then you would hope he's sacked immediately.

rjhotspur · Sep 16, 2021

Was just watching Help on C4 (had to switch off) but it certainly put this match and it al into perspective.

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