Match Threads Man City vs Spurs - Match thread - Carabao Cup Final 2021 - KO 4:30pm

ralphs bald spot · Apr 26, 2021

Archibald&Crooks said:
TBH that's the way I saw it. It was like men against boys in the first half. Slightly better in the second half but still.

Team selection killed off any anticipation I had and what they served up confirmed it. I'd much rather have seen a bit more intent and feeling that we were going for it but we looked, well, passive I suppose. They are so much better though

It's frustrating because although we'll never know if 'going for it' would have made any difference at all, i'd much rather our team selection was different and took our chances that way.

Ah well, another final another defeat. Who knows when our next one will be now.

Of course its dissapointing it would have been great to go toe to toe with them but they were excellent on the day and we aren't at their level but I think they are probably the best team in Europe atm. I don't think team selection or even the subs would have made much difference we defended well stayed in the game for eighty minutes and whilst it was 0-0 there was a chance but sometimes you have to hold your hands up and say they were better than you

Gareth88 · Apr 26, 2021

L.S.U.Yiddo said:
Barring a big name managerial appointment, I expect Son to be one of the names seeking a move in the summer. Can't imagine Son, Kane, and Hugo wanting to stick around for a rebuild when title-challenging teams will be interested in them.

I may be reading into this but it could be the reason he was crying so much after the game

shelfboy68 · Apr 26, 2021

Can only cast an envious eye at the city fans who expect to win big game's, we on the other hand don't they must be buzzing with how much they win whereas us fan's will never know.

IamSpurtacus · Apr 26, 2021

"Spurs have become pretenders. We think we’re a big club, we act like we’re a big club but we ain’t a big club. The problem is you’ve got too many players out there who think they’re great players but they’re not.

“We beat Brentford in the semi-finals, Brentford would’ve done better! They would have left everything out on the pitch, they would’ve pressed, they would’ve closed. They may have got beaten by three or four but at least they would’ve tried to score.

“It was such a bad performance from so many players who class themselves as good players. [Heung-min] Son, he gave the ball away every time he got it. He didn’t fancy going at Kyle Walker one v one… he absolutely bottled it.”

"Who wants to take over this squad? The best player in Kane is going to leave in the summer, so you’ve got a basic squad who don’t produce in big games.

“Unless Daniel Levy’s going to beg someone like Julian Nagelsmann to come in or give him £150million…

“They’re gonna run a mile. Not even Nuno Espirito Santo or Brendan Rodgers would take over.

“The whole week has been a disgrace. The whole ESL thing and Spurs pretending they’re a big club and then sacking Jose Mourinho before the final that you brought him in to win.”

Hard to argue with O'Hara's summary

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Kiedis · Apr 26, 2021

For all of Man Citys riches in terms of personnel, their strength lies in the collective. Getting the ball to their best players in the final third time and time and time again, through repeated patterns and movements. Whereas we had enormous trouble playing through their press. Going long against CBs of that quality is basically giving away possession.

Dunno if Ndombele has a knock or something, but he'd normally be able to wiggle out of pressure and get the ball up the pitch. It's evident that Mason has started establishing some possession structures, and it'll be interesting to see how much a novice can improve us over the coming few weeks.

ernie78 · Apr 26, 2021

IamSpurtacus said:
"Spurs have become pretenders. We think we’re a big club, we act like we’re a big club but we ain’t a big club. The problem is you’ve got too many players out there who think they’re great players but they’re not.

“We beat Brentford in the semi-finals, Brentford would’ve done better! They would have left everything out on the pitch, they would’ve pressed, they would’ve closed. They may have got beaten by three or four but at least they would’ve tried to score.

“It was such a bad performance from so many players who class themselves as good players. [Heung-min] Son, he gave the ball away every time he got it. He didn’t fancy going at Kyle Walker one v one… he absolutely bottled it.”

"Who wants to take over this squad? The best player in Kane is going to leave in the summer, so you’ve got a basic squad who don’t produce in big games.

“Unless Daniel Levy’s going to beg someone like Julian Nagelsmann to come in or give him £150million…

“They’re gonna run a mile. Not even Nuno Espirito Santo or Brendan Rodgers would take over.

“The whole week has been a disgrace. The whole ESL thing and Spurs pretending they’re a big club and then sacking Jose Mourinho before the final that you brought him in to win.”

Hard to argue with O'Hara's summary

O'Hara's stunning rant after 'pretenders' Tottenham lose Carabao Cup final

Tottenham’s performance in the Carabao Cup final left Jamie O’Hara fuming. Spurs succumbed to a 1-0 defeat to Manchester City at Wembley on Sunday. The final wasn’t as close as th…

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He’s not wrong but “Become pretenders”?? - I’d say for the last 20years we have definitely been pretenders. Wanting to be with the big boys but falling down when it matters the most.
The training ground, the stadium “best in the world” but the actual squad quality has become nowhere close to world class. For a couple of years we were 2/3 additions away from becoming real contenders but we tucked about and let the squad become stale, egos to inflate and lethargic.
The last 2 performances in finals have been embarrassing, just no fight. We need a huge overhaul but we won’t get one under Enic. It won’t matter who the manager is if this squad is not dismantled.

cabinfever · Apr 26, 2021

Kiedis said:
These are the ramblings fitting a mentally challenged 13-year-old.

That is one the most stunningly insensitive things I’ve ever seen on this forum.

shelfboy68 · Apr 26, 2021

IamSpurtacus said:
"Spurs have become pretenders. We think we’re a big club, we act like we’re a big club but we ain’t a big club. The problem is you’ve got too many players out there who think they’re great players but they’re not.

“We beat Brentford in the semi-finals, Brentford would’ve done better! They would have left everything out on the pitch, they would’ve pressed, they would’ve closed. They may have got beaten by three or four but at least they would’ve tried to score.

“It was such a bad performance from so many players who class themselves as good players. [Heung-min] Son, he gave the ball away every time he got it. He didn’t fancy going at Kyle Walker one v one… he absolutely bottled it.”

"Who wants to take over this squad? The best player in Kane is going to leave in the summer, so you’ve got a basic squad who don’t produce in big games.

“Unless Daniel Levy’s going to beg someone like Julian Nagelsmann to come in or give him £150million…

“They’re gonna run a mile. Not even Nuno Espirito Santo or Brendan Rodgers would take over.

“The whole week has been a disgrace. The whole ESL thing and Spurs pretending they’re a big club and then sacking Jose Mourinho before the final that you brought him in to win.”

Hard to argue with O'Hara's summary

O'Hara's stunning rant after 'pretenders' Tottenham lose Carabao Cup final

Tottenham’s performance in the Carabao Cup final left Jamie O’Hara fuming. Spurs succumbed to a 1-0 defeat to Manchester City at Wembley on Sunday. The final wasn’t as close as th…

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We definitely don't act like a big club the mindset isn't there and it starts from the top.

Kiedis · Apr 26, 2021

cabinfever said:
That is one the most stunningly insensitive things I’ve ever seen on this forum.

Agreed, it was pure nonsense, and has been deleted.

ralphs bald spot · Apr 26, 2021

Kiedis said:
For all of Man Citys riches in terms of personnel, their strength lies in the collective. Getting the ball to their best players in the final third time and time and time again, through repeated patterns and movements. Whereas we had enormous trouble playing through their press. Going long against CBs of that quality is basically giving away possession.

Dunno if Ndombele has a knock or something, but he'd normally be able to wiggle out of pressure and get the ball up the pitch. It's evident that Mason has started establishing some possession structures, and it'll be interesting to see how much a novice can improve us over the coming few weeks.

mate we had to go long because we couldn't break the press at all it was that good- the only option we had was to try to get the ball behind their left back (Walker is to quick) and turn around there back 4 but even that is hard to do and where not set up for that

ralphs bald spot · Apr 26, 2021

IamSpurtacus said:
"Spurs have become pretenders. We think we’re a big club, we act like we’re a big club but we ain’t a big club. The problem is you’ve got too many players out there who think they’re great players but they’re not.

“We beat Brentford in the semi-finals, Brentford would’ve done better! They would have left everything out on the pitch, they would’ve pressed, they would’ve closed. They may have got beaten by three or four but at least they would’ve tried to score.

“It was such a bad performance from so many players who class themselves as good players. [Heung-min] Son, he gave the ball away every time he got it. He didn’t fancy going at Kyle Walker one v one… he absolutely bottled it.”

"Who wants to take over this squad? The best player in Kane is going to leave in the summer, so you’ve got a basic squad who don’t produce in big games.

“Unless Daniel Levy’s going to beg someone like Julian Nagelsmann to come in or give him £150million…

“They’re gonna run a mile. Not even Nuno Espirito Santo or Brendan Rodgers would take over.

“The whole week has been a disgrace. The whole ESL thing and Spurs pretending they’re a big club and then sacking Jose Mourinho before the final that you brought him in to win.”

Hard to argue with O'Hara's summary

O'Hara's stunning rant after 'pretenders' Tottenham lose Carabao Cup final

Tottenham’s performance in the Carabao Cup final left Jamie O’Hara fuming. Spurs succumbed to a 1-0 defeat to Manchester City at Wembley on Sunday. The final wasn’t as close as th…

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what a knob O'Hara is

Dennism · Apr 26, 2021

C0YS said:
The first half yeah, we couldn't get out, second half much better, but the issue is intent vs what happened. I don't think we intended to fail to get out of our own half, we just failed to do so, and that's very different than aiming to play negatively.

I mean the alternative is to hit the ball long, but then it normally just comes right back at you. What we did was typical Poch like build up play, and just like under Poch, if you manage to prevent us from building into midfield, we get trapped. The argument why to continue is that to prevent build up they need to press and this opens up spaces further up the pitch, so if you do beat the press you can make good chances. Even in the first half we did manage this on occasion, but a mixture of cynical fouls and I think a lack patience in the first half meant they didn't really come to much.

you sound exactly like Jose in saying that we wanted to get out of our own half but couldn’t. This has happened in numerous games this season yet we still cannot find a solution. We should be doing better and what is being provided by our players is not acceptable. We have some good players who are seriously underachieving and we have to hope Ryan finds the solutions to these problems.

Beni · Apr 26, 2021

C0YS said:
Here is my comment after the 3-0 loss I was talking about.

In response to someone talking about how after the long game against Everton, and Everton also losing that week, the Man city result wasn't such a big deal:

No, what you’re doing is actively coming out posting after posting, making excuses on our performance and result, like we should be just happy that it was 1-0, that we had a nice day out and should be proud to share a pitch with the almighty City.
Yes, I expected us to lose, but don’t tell me or make excuses for thinking that starting Winks, dropping Bale after scoring last game, and bringing off our most consistent player this season in Hojbjerg for Sissoko is ‘going’ for it in a one off game our biggest of the season and one we have been waiting for for years. I Guarantee if this starting line up, the subs we made and the lack of any attacking threat was seen whilst the ‘man who won’t be named’ was in charge, you and some others wouldn’t be so vocal on the defense of yesterday’s performance.

My issue isn’t with you fella, it isn’t on Mason and it wasn’t with Mourinho fully, my issue is Levy and the players.

ralphs bald spot · Apr 26, 2021

Beni said:
No, what you’re doing is actively coming out posting after posting, making excuses on our performance and result, like we should be just happy that it was 1-0, that we had a nice day out and should be proud to share a pitch with the almighty City.
Yes, I expected us to lose, but don’t tell me or make excuses for thinking that starting Winks, dropping Bale after scoring last game, and bringing off our most consistent player this season in Hojbjerg for Sissoko is ‘going’ for it in a one off game our biggest of the season and one we have been waiting for for years. I Guarantee if this starting line up, the subs we made and the lack of any attacking threat was seen whilst the ‘man who won’t be named’ was in charge, you and some others wouldn’t be so vocal on the defense of yesterday’s performance.

My issue isn’t with you fella, it isn’t on Mason and it wasn’t with Mourinho fully, my issue is Levy and the players.

mate whatever side we put out they are a terrific side and on the day they were very very good - the changes made - made sense they didn't come off on the day. The players deserve some pelters but yesterday wasn't one of them they stayed in the game and its hard to work out what else we could do - we just lost to the best team in Europe not a thrid rate Czech outfit which we did a few weeks back

riggi · Apr 26, 2021

Wish Sky spoke about Foden more.

carpediem991 · Apr 26, 2021

Still gutted.

Talking about going forward after sacking Jose and go the Tottenham way and putting out the most passive and coward performance and substitutes. Jose would be proud. Being in a CL final two years ago and then going out like school kids in a cup final waiting for the invitible beat up. There is nothing to be proud of. Seeing players like Winks or Sissoko out there in the biggest game of the season and having Ndombele and Lamela 90 minutes on the bench still baffles my mind. For this, no experience is no excuse.

And even though we were such an underdog we kept it 0-0 for 80 minutes only to concede from a set piece that would have scored a League 1 side. And after that, attacking and pressing with full effort to force a final chance? No we have never seen the ball anymore.

Pathetic week Tottenham, pathetic season.

Beni · Apr 26, 2021

ralphs bald spot said:
mate whatever side we put out they are a terrific side and on the day they were very very good - the changes made - made sense they didn't come off on the day. The players deserve some pelters but yesterday wasn't one of them they stayed in the game and its hard to work out what else we could do - we just lost to the best team in Europe not a thrid rate Czech outfit which we did a few weeks back

And who played in that game...Winks and Sissoko. I can be upset with yesterday just as I can be upset in losing to Zagreb.

JimmyG2 · Apr 26, 2021

Who chose an inexperienced 29 yr.old
to take charge of the team
for this huge game
and the rest of the season.
Who sent on Sissoko
and who briefed him
prior to coming on.
Plenty of candidates for the blame game
before you get to Sissoko.

This thread should be renamed 'person watch'
cos he ain't a player.
But if he's picked he'll turn out.

Ryan must have absorbed
some of Mourinho' DNA through the office chair.
Winks and Sissoko finishing the game,
Sissoko before Lamela
All that goodwill spaffed up the Wembley walls.

0-Tibsy-0 · Apr 26, 2021

Where the fuckity fuck was Ndombele?

I've slept on it and i've still woken up angry that Sissoko and Alli came on before Lamela and Ndombele.

Nonsense.

For fuck sake.

Serpico · Apr 26, 2021

Wizzy77 said:
Hmm. Harsh.

At least under Jose, 1) he will never play Winks. 2) chances we will celebrate a goal and a lead until opponent scores in the dying mins ?

Not harsh at all.
All that aside-the players are better than that .

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