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Player Watch - Carlos Vinícius

DiVaio

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Underwhelming to say the least, how many of the big boys have chased this guy?? and no caps for his country....surely we can do better!. Personally wanted Daka or the Celtic boy, explosive talents.
He's Brazillian, do you expect him to play over Firmino or Gabriel Jesus in national team?
United wanted him in winter, that's more big boys chasing him that 0 for Daka ?
 

BENNO

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If it’s a loan with option, everyone should and will be doing cartwheels.

If it’s 50M purchase, everyone should be asking for Daniel to have his head examined.

It’s all about the deal here if it happens. This is not a club record signing type profile.

This is the problem with modern football (not you in particular I might add !). If we need a striker (which we do) and this bloke happens to be the one chosen, and Levy thinks we can afford him & acquires him, then it matters not one jot how much he costs. Not one jot. All that matters is he does what the manager expects of him.

Anyone worried about his price has probably had a go at his mates or rival fans on twitter about the price/performances of Pepe or Haller etc etc & doesn't want to be on the receiving end this time.
 

portgasz

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All videos suggest to me that he resembles benzema with his tall and huge build. Not much pace yet can be a burden to other clubs with his movement and intelligent play. And I could feel that he would be a great duo with Kane if we decide to play with two strikers.
 

THFCSPURS19

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Jan 6, 2013
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Underwhelming to say the least, how many of the big boys have chased this guy?? and no caps for his country....surely we can do better!.
Every summer. Every summer someone posts these bullshit arguments.

Which big clubs have gone after Daka?

Personally wanted Daka or the Celtic boy, explosive talents.

The only reason people want Daka and not this guy, despite having never watched either, is because Daka has pace and is more of a ‘bumms off seets’ player.

I prefer not to speak.
 

SargeantMeatCurtains

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Underwhelming to say the least, how many of the big boys have chased this guy?? and no caps for his country....surely we can do better!. Personally wanted Daka or the Celtic boy, explosive talents.
Your logic for not wanting Vinicius flies in the face of your logic for wanting Daka and Edouard. His name is Edouard, by the way.
 
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Dirty Ewok

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Was not expecting some of these responses tbh.

Jose knows more about football than all of us, so if he wants him, then I do too.

First day on SC?

Of course Jose doesn't know as much about football than all of us....unless he does.

This player will clearly be a star the likes we have never seen unless he is a bust that makes Soldado look hyper productive

If another team buys him....Small team - "found his level" Large team - "wasting his talent on the bench / money hungry mercenary"

You'll get the hang of it shortly
 

Yiddo100

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Underwhelming to say the least, how many of the big boys have chased this guy?? and no caps for his country....surely we can do better!. Personally wanted Daka or the Celtic boy, explosive talents.
You mean the edouard who has no caps for his country?
 

RichieS

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This is the problem with modern football (not you in particular I might add !). If we need a striker (which we do) and this bloke happens to be the one chosen, and Levy thinks we can afford him & acquires him, then it matters not one jot how much he costs. Not one jot. All that matters is he does what the manager expects of him.

Anyone worried about his price has probably had a go at his mates or rival fans on twitter about the price/performances of Pepe or Haller etc etc & doesn't want to be on the receiving end this time.
So much of modern football support seems to be about getting one over on "mates". Loads of people on here seem to care about the (completely ridiculous) notion of Spurs being a laughing stock. Personally I do not give a single fuck what any of my friends think about Spurs - my support of the club is nowhere near that superficial.
 

Legacy

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Just spent half an hour skimming through his player thread on a Benfica forum. Doesn't make for the most exciting of reading. The consensus on him as you skip through the months seems to be:
-Mendes mugged them off when they paid €17m for him.
-He's the poorest striker they've had in the last 10 years or so, a couple of people rating him on a similar level to Mitroglou.
-A load of posts saying he's dreadful with his head/in the air.
-After a run of goalscoring, more people start to come round to him, others saying he isn't involved enough in the overall game.
-He was awful following the league restart.
-A load of people suddenly saying he deserves the golden boot and hoping he gets it.
-They'd jump for joy if he was sold for the reported €50m, they could replace him for 1/4 of that.
-Quite a few comments saying the whole team was poor this season and he's a victim of that. He'd look a lot better if he had played in previous Benfica teams.

So doesn't generally sound like they view him as a superstar. However, I was skipping through quickly, using Google Translate, and I'm assuming a fair few negative comments would have come during or after a poor match, and we all know well how knee jerky football forums get following a negative result.

Make of that what you will. The link for anyone else with too much time on their hands today.

Also, the level of disdain they have for Mendes seems universal, and was quite amusing.
 

JKendall13

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Just spent half an hour skimming through his player thread on a Benfica forum. Doesn't make for the most exciting of reading. The consensus on him as you skip through the months seems to be:
-Mendes mugged them off when they paid €17m for him.
-He's the poorest striker they've had in the last 10 years or so, a couple of people rating him on a similar level to Mitroglou.
-A load of posts saying he's dreadful with his head/in the air.
-After a run of goalscoring, more people start to come round to him, others saying he isn't involved enough in the overall game.
-He was awful following the league restart.
-A load of people suddenly saying he deserves the golden boot and hoping he gets it.
-They'd jump for joy if he was sold for the reported €50m, they could replace him for 1/4 of that.
-Quite a few comments saying the whole team was poor this season and he's a victim of that. He'd look a lot better if he had played in previous Benfica teams.

So doesn't generally sound like they view him as a superstar. However, I was skipping through quickly, using Google Translate, and I'm assuming a fair few negative comments would have come during or after a poor match, and we all know well how knee jerky football forums get following a negative result.

Make of that what you will. The link for anyone else with too much time on their hands today.

Also, the level of disdain they have for Mendes seems universal, and was quite amusing.

I wish our worst striker in the last ten years scored a goal from open play every 98 minutes.
 
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bbunc

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May 11, 2019
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This is the problem with modern football (not you in particular I might add !). If we need a striker (which we do) and this bloke happens to be the one chosen, and Levy thinks we can afford him & acquires him, then it matters not one jot how much he costs. Not one jot. All that matters is he does what the manager expects of him.

Anyone worried about his price has probably had a go at his mates or rival fans on twitter about the price/performances of Pepe or Haller etc etc & doesn't want to be on the receiving end this time.

I worry about the price because I support a club with limited resources and a fair number of holes still. When we overpay it ripples all the way through our overall squad strength.
 

deanostheyido

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Aug 5, 2011
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Not sure i understand the hate this player is getting. Does he look like the best Striker in the world? Certainly not. It does however look like he's good at holding the ball up, playing team mates in, seems to put the ball in the corner of the net, and doesn't seem to be as slow as a 6"3 striker should be. He looks like a Mourinho striker.
 

hughy

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Underwhelming to say the least, how many of the big boys have chased this guy?? and no caps for his country....surely we can do better!. Personally wanted Daka or the Celtic boy, explosive talents.
The fact that you want someone who you've referred to as "the Celtic boy" tells us all we need to know.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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Best me to it!

I wonder how many people here would’ve been happy with us signing a 27 year old Raul Jiminez from Benfica in 2018 off the back of scoring 18 goals in 80 games across 3 seasons, with him having failed at Athletico Madrid already.

This guy at 25 scored at a superb rate last season, as he did in his only previous season in the Portuguese top flight, seems comfortable on the ball from the videos, quick, powerful, tall, and having previous been scouted by and brought to Napoli as a young age, almost definitely has a high ceiling.

I’m genuinely baffled how people are more excited by links to a guy doing it in Austria or Scotland but not Portugal, especially given how successful players from that league have been in recent years.

Me. I remember when I saw him playing for Mexico in the Olympics and I thought he looked a dangerous player. I don't think he was first choice for the national team at the time but would of had enough caps to get a work permit.

I think people would Edouard because they have seen him play, I mentioned him in the scouting thread at the start of the year although I hadn't seen that much of him he looks a good player, scoring different types of goals. Players making big moves from Celtic have done well in the PL too of course: Wanyama, Van Dijk and Tierney. I remember watching the youtube highlights of this guy at the time too as he was playing well and scoring goals for Benfica and I had never heard of him.

Be it either player, we just have to hope the club get it right and make the right decision.
 

PrettyColors

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Aug 13, 2011
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Just spent half an hour skimming through his player thread on a Benfica forum. Doesn't make for the most exciting of reading. The consensus on him as you skip through the months seems to be:
-Mendes mugged them off when they paid €17m for him.
-He's the poorest striker they've had in the last 10 years or so, a couple of people rating him on a similar level to Mitroglou.
-A load of posts saying he's dreadful with his head/in the air.
-After a run of goalscoring, more people start to come round to him, others saying he isn't involved enough in the overall game.
-He was awful following the league restart.
-A load of people suddenly saying he deserves the golden boot and hoping he gets it.
-They'd jump for joy if he was sold for the reported €50m, they could replace him for 1/4 of that.
-Quite a few comments saying the whole team was poor this season and he's a victim of that. He'd look a lot better if he had played in previous Benfica teams.

So doesn't generally sound like they view him as a superstar. However, I was skipping through quickly, using Google Translate, and I'm assuming a fair few negative comments would have come during or after a poor match, and we all know well how knee jerky football forums get following a negative result.

Make of that what you will. The link for anyone else with too much time on their hands today.

Also, the level of disdain they have for Mendes seems universal, and was quite amusing.
They seem to think he’s not a good link up player and slows down the play when he gets it. That’s a really big concern for me.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Me. I remember when I saw him playing for Mexico in the Olympics and I thought he looked a dangerous player. I don't think he was first choice for the national team at the time but would of had enough caps to get a work permit.

I think people would Edouard because they have seen him play, I mentioned him in the scouting thread at the start of the year although I hadn't seen that much of him he looks a good player, scoring different types of goals. Players making big moves from Celtic have done well in the PL too of course: Wanyama, Van Dijk and Tierney. I remember watching the youtube highlights of this guy at the time too as he was playing well and scoring goals for Benfica and I had never heard of him.

Be it either player, we just have to hope the club get it right and make the right decision.
I have no doubt Edouard is excellent, and perhaps he’ll prove to be a miss for us, but if this is the guy we’ve identified, I just don’t get how anyone in this thread based on the limited information we have available (YouTube and an excellent set of recent stats) can be displeased. It’s not like we’re asking Super Pav to leave his boots up.
 
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