Chris Wood

Havre · Aug 31, 2020

BringBack_leGin said:
Dawson could pass. He wasn’t Toby Alderweireld but he could pass. And yes, using him as a negative comparison with anyone is massively disrespectful, the guy bled Spurs.

I didn’t say Wood is good because most, not some, wrote of Kane, I said Wood is good because Wood IS good, I merely compared the mentality being shown the the same mentality shown towards Kane back then. You knew this though, as you’d have to be a complete idiot not to have followed my very simply constructed point, and you’re general posts on here don’t show you to be a ‘complete idiot’ (I can use quotation marks to display passive aggression too ? ).

In a squad of up to 25, there’s always place for a premier league proven target man who doesn’t screw up our non HG allowance in my book ?

And I don't think Wood is a good fit. For some reason that has become some sort of emotional issue.

SCUMmucs · Aug 31, 2020

Can we all calm down here, just remember if Kane gets injured Son will start. We are just talking about an option from the bench (probably 3rd).
Bergwijn would replace son on the wing and we’d all be happy with that.
If woods had to start every game even his defenders would be concerned, so chill out. It’s embarrassing the level of arguing on Woods! (What’s required to lock the thread? I don’t want other fans seeing this)

degoose · Aug 31, 2020

I have a feeling some don't watch much of Wood. He's been great for Burnley , quite a different type of player than what we have, an old style battering ram of a striker who can get headed goals, flick ons and has a good shot as well. He's no Kane, who is? But I think he would be a good back up, a good link up striker if we needed two up top and a good plan b for those tricky annoying games where the normal play isn't working.

BringBack_leGin · Aug 31, 2020

Havre said:
And I don't think Wood is a good fit. For some reason that has become some sort of emotional issue.

It’s not an emotional issue, but if you’d simply just said that you’d have received no ire. Instead, people found it irksome when you:

Havre said:
I don't think he is a bad player, but I fear he will become a "Dawson". You got to have some basic skills to move with the rest and quite frankly he doesn't. Wood will never link up with Lucas, Alli, Lo Celso etc. - King and Ings would. Wilson in some ways as well.

Stated as fact that he has no basic skill, when he clearly does to have even achieved what he has, while denigrating one of our most beloved players of all time.

Havre said:
Talk about shit statement.

First of all one of my best friends is a Leedsfan. So I have probably watched Wood more than most Spursfans. And I do regularly watch basically all teams in the league.

But keep on thinking that every player we are linked to is good. If it makes life easier.

Accused posters of just being so desperate for a signing that they’ll overrate every potential link.

Havre said:
So because Dawson is a "club hero" he could also pass the ball? If I said Lennon is average in the air I would be lying as well?

Talk about straw man. So because some wrote off Kane Wood is a good player? That kind of logic might work in a Harry Potter book, but....

Deliberately and knowing twist other posters comments into something they aren’t to try to undermine valid points.

Havre said:
I am not claiming that I watch Burnley (or Leeds for that matter) 38 games a year.

If that is the requirement. And if you can only evaluate players playing with the players they might play with in the future why do we even have these conversations? Obviously no-one can have an opinion about anything.

And cried wolf about having your opinions oppressed when you’re the one who has made a series of outlandish comments to put down other posters opinions.

I have no more to say on the issue, it’s really not constructive at this point.

Japhet · Aug 31, 2020

SCUMmucs said:
Can we all calm down here, just remember if Kane gets injured Son will start. We are just talking about an option from the bench (probably 3rd).
Bergwijn would replace son on the wing and we’d all be happy with that.
If woods had to start every game even his defenders would be concerned, so chill out. It’s embarrassing the level of arguing on Woods! (What’s required to lock the thread? I don’t want other fans seeing this)

I think there's plenty of scope for Wood to start if Kane is out and Son to continue in his usual position against some opponents. I'd also say that I think Wood would be a proper handful for a lot of teams in the Europa League.

Havre · Aug 31, 2020

BringBack_leGin said:
It’s not an emotional issue, but if you’d simply just said that you’d have received no ire. Instead, people found it irksome when you:

Stated as fact that he has no basic skill, when he clearly does to have even achieved what he has, while denigrating one of our most beloved players of all time.

Accused posters of just being so desperate for a signing that they’ll overrate every potential link.

Deliberately and knowing twist other posters comments into something they aren’t to try to undermine valid points.

And cried wolf about having your opinions oppressed when you’re the one who has made a series of outlandish comments to put down other posters opinions.

I have no more to say on the issue, it’s really not constructive at this point.

"Come on bro". That is such a "straw man". I wrote "Dawson" with "" to highlight a type of issue.

"No skill" is obviously not the question. "Skilled enough" is.

SCUMmucs · Aug 31, 2020

Japhet said:
I think there's plenty of scope for Wood to start if Kane is out and Son to continue in his usual position against some opponents. I'd also say that I think Wood would be a proper handful for a lot of teams in the Europa League.

not to be rude but you’d rather:
Son Woods Lucas
Than
Bergwijn Son Lucas

Just to be clear woods would be an option but the difference in all the players we are looking at feels negligible. As I said before if they score I don’t care. Even lorente as useless as he was in the league was actually a huge component to us getting to the champions league. Start him though? Never that!

Mr Pink · Aug 31, 2020

To be honest I'd take King or Wood. Its just my preference would be the former.

Conando · Aug 31, 2020

I think Wood would be great addition, scores goals and would add a presence up front in Kane’s absence, could play alongside him as well; would definitely be my choice out of the three (Wood, King and Wilson).

mr ashley · Aug 31, 2020

Havre said:
"Come on bro". That is such a "straw man". I wrote "Dawson" with "" to highlight a type of issue.

"No skill" is obviously not the question. "Skilled enough" is.

Mate I think you could have avoided all this by:
Not stating your opinions as facts
Not using derogatory comments like ‘Straw man’

we can discuss our opinions just fine and disagree without getting ‘emotional’ that way.

Japhet · Aug 31, 2020

SCUMmucs said:
not to be rude but you’d rather:
Son Woods Lucas
Than
Bergwijn Son Lucas

Just to be clear woods would be an option but the difference in all the players we are looking at feels negligible. As I said before if they score I don’t care. Even lorente as useless as he was in the league was actually a huge component to us getting to the champions league. Start him though? Never that!

IMO it's a 'horses for courses' situation, and on some occasions I think Wood might be more effective as a target man primarily. We all saw how useless we were banging long balls up to Moura and Son earlier this season, and although it's not a style of play I have any affinity with, it's something Mourinho has always used to some degree.

C0YS · Aug 31, 2020

GetKaned said:
Why do people react as if a player's legs magically fall off the moment he hits 30 ? Even at 28, we might get 3 good years from Wood. Which is enough to push us over the line in multiple competitions. We shot ourselves in the foot over the past 4 years acting too picky on players

Why do we even want a young player if we rate Parrott to be pushing for the first team in 2 or 3 years?

Wood is probably the best realistic option. I mean Ings would be something special, but I dont see it happening.

lukadownthelane · Aug 31, 2020

There’s a lot of wet pants in this thread......

kent brockman · Aug 31, 2020

SCUMmucs said:
Can we all calm down here, just remember if Kane gets injured Son will start. We are just talking about an option from the bench (probably 3rd).
Bergwijn would replace son on the wing and we’d all be happy with that.
If woods had to start every game even his defenders would be concerned, so chill out. It’s embarrassing the level of arguing on Woods! (What’s required to lock the thread? I don’t want other fans seeing this)

It was clearly Poch’s preference to play Son as first reserve to Kane at CF. Not sure though if that is JM’s view as well.

JM’s comments of having no strikers (when Kane was out) indicate to me that he probably prefers a CF specialist, rather than playing Son out of position. However, I suppose Jose’s preference ultimately depends on how he wants to play when Kane is unavailable. Pumping high balls from the defence does not work very well with Son or Lucas up top though.

jbstarr14 · Aug 31, 2020

Lots in here complaining about the style of football we’d play if we brought in Wood, but isn’t that the point? When ‘Plan A‘ isn’t working, we need a ‘Plan B’, not simply different personnel who will slot straight into the aforementioned unsuccessful ‘Plan A’...

mr ashley · Aug 31, 2020

C0YS said:
Why do we even want a young player if we rate Parrott to be pushing for the first team in 2 or 3 years?

Wood is probably the best realistic option. I mean Ings would be something special, but I dont see it happening.

Because if we only have Parrott in 2 years time we’re back at square one again?

sausage · Aug 31, 2020

lukadownthelane said:
There’s a lot of wet pants in this thread......

I know, you can't see the Wood for the....arguments?

BringBack_leGin · Aug 31, 2020

mr ashley said:
Because if we only have Parrott in 2 years time we’re back at square one again?

If Kane leaves at any point in the next two years we’ll be able to buy two top class strikers never mind one to compete with young Troy.

thebenjamin · Aug 31, 2020

SCUMmucs said:
not to be rude but you’d rather:
Son Woods Lucas
Than
Bergwijn Son Lucas

Just to be clear woods would be an option but the difference in all the players we are looking at feels negligible. As I said before if they score I don’t care. Even lorente as useless as he was in the league was actually a huge component to us getting to the champions league. Start him though? Never that!

Jose needs a target man. He'd never have a firmino / mane / salah forward line, for example.

mr ashley · Aug 31, 2020

jbstarr14 said:
Lots in here complaining about the style of football we’d play if we brought in Wood, but isn’t that the point? When ‘Plan A‘ isn’t working, we need a ‘Plan B’, not simply different personnel who will slot straight into the aforementioned unsuccessful ‘Plan A’...

This is still too simplistic

we need a player who can play instead of Kane.
that allows us to retain plan a (which you would assume is our best game plan), especially if Kane is injured or rested.

Equally, we need a player who can enable us to move to plan b (because plan a isn’t working)

You could also argue that we need a plan c (if plan b involved Kane as well).

Tactical flexibility is key. So is playing well without Kane.

I doubt signing wood is a catalyst for playing Burnley style long ball football (despite all the Jose critics telling us that’s his preferred style of play).

But it might allow us to effectively play this way against teams who are weak or susceptible to this approach (Arsenal/city perhaps?)

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