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Player Watch: Erik Lamela

buckley

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No I dont think we are the only fans that are vehement in abuse of their own teams players I just wish we were better than than the fans of other teams and I realise this is a useless waste of a wish.Also why because generally this is how other teams forums behave do we have to be she same ?.
 

buckley

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By the way their are not many on 100 grand a week at this club also there are some people who would prefer to go to a club where they are lauded and not slagged of no matter how they perform
 

Montalbano

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there are some people who would prefer to go to a club where they are lauded and not slagged of no matter how they perform
You honestly think there are clubs that exist where players receive zero criticism from supporters...? Cmon now.
 

ralvy

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As well as having no idea how to influence the attack (One goal, one assist in over 100 games)
We won't get back to having an effective team, whilst he is taking up one of the spots.


Points per game for our players this season when they have played (5 games minimum) - Team average is 1,41.
If you get taken off when losing, and we go on to draw. Player taken off gets loss, substitute gets win, all others get draw.

1.75 Lloris
1.74 Aurier
1.71 Lamela
1.62 Son
1.50 Moura & Dele
1.48 Alderweireld
1.45 Sanchez
1.45 Sissoko & Kane
1.42 Dier
1.40 Bergwijn
1.33 Ndombele
1.30 Eriksen
1.29 LoCelso
1.28 Vertonghen
1.20 Sessegnon
1.14 Davies
1.11 Gazzaniga
1.08 Rose
1.05 Winks
0.83 Tanganga

But but, I thought Aurier was our worst player ever and is the reason we keep losing and that Lloris needs to be retired ASAP.
 

TwanYid

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Lamela is a game-changer when he's on the pitch, period. He bleeds, tries and dies for the club. He also- and I literally mean this- was a major part of us making about 50 million Quid extra just last season with that one no-look pass to Kane (who, having thusly attracted a gaggle of Barca defenders- slotted through to Lucas who took us home). That pass- which was as high as high-level gets- was what got us that unbelievable point at the Camp Nou; no one else gets it so cleanly to Kane (whom they were obviously marking the Holy FUCK out of) in order for Harry to even have the chance to slide it across to Moura. That's Lamela: the proverbial "assist-before-the-assist"-guy.

He has made SO many plays like that, and always in MASSIVE matches for us. The bigger the stage, the better he plays. 30 mil? These days (unfortunately) that's a fucking BARGAIN for such a player. Eric Lamela can at times be among the best in the world (yes, I said that).

Am I sick to fucking death of his constant, relentless injuries? Yup- probably more than you lot. Am I just about done with how he plays three top class matches for us and then is subsequently lost for the following four months due to some injury we never even saw? Uh-huh; it kills me. Do we need a player in his position that can stay on the pitch? Yes, we do. So yeah- I agree with his detractors re: his constant, unremitting injury woes. So therefore should we offload him? Heavens no. Sometimes you just have to take the good with the bad, a la Ledley King, and simply allow a frustrating player to remain a part of the club if- and only IF- said player is Spurs to his fucking CORE- which Lamela is.

When he first came to us I doubt he knew what city we were in; 7 years on and it's plain to see that we are his one and only club. Unlike that smarmy little fuck Eriksen, Lamela- somehow, someway- grew to love us, which in my book counts for a LOT. Why did Poch love him? Why does Jose love him? Why do I love him? Because there's something old-school about him- something different to the modern, spoiled, prima donna little bitch of a player. Lamela seems like the type who'd play for free now if it meant staying here. He knows the club stuck by him and he is arguably the most Tottenham-player we have. Hell, even Kane might fly the coop soon; but I'm betting Erik Lamela would prefer to be a lifer here.

Sadly, he may not get that choice- and I get it; football, after all, has no time for sentiment, business is business, etc. But I do have time for sentiment, and my heart skips a beat when I think of him tormenting Wilshire, or letting an elbow fly vs. PSV in the Champions league, or constantly doing any of Chelscum or Manure or Shitty dirty...point is the guy is a true warrior. Opposing fans hate him (always a good sign), opposing players loathe him (again: great sign) and our fans- even his detractors- know beyond all doubt that he gives every fiber of his being for the cause, for the badge, for the cockerel...

Rationally, I get it: he's gotta go because he's too injury prone. But football isn't rational and I myself am the furthest thing from the word- so I say sign him and keep him here until the end. I want him to retire as a Spur.

Oh and lastly, none of my undying love for the guy is sexual. I don't know who told you that but it is complete and utter bullshit. I am straight, not gay. I may find him attractive in the sense of yes he's a good-looking guy- but what's wrong with that? What- I'm gay now? That's ridiculous. You're ridiculous. The fact that you brought the whole thing up is ridiculous. It's like some of you have these hidden obsessions and you can't admit them so you transfer them onto people like me. I didn't even say anything and now I'm having to defend myself for liking the guy. Nothing wrong with gay people I'm just not one of them so I'd appreciate it if you took your assumptions and innuendos somewhere else. I can appreciate a guy's looks without swinging that way. What? What the fuck is your problem? What's with the look on your face? Jesus- gimme a break, ok? It's nothing more than an admiration for an athlete. What- you never thought a dude looked cool or anything? ENOUGH! I'm not gay! Fuck! It's called "A guy comfortable enough with his sexuality that he can be frank about it!"

Christ guys- give it a rest...
 
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Timberwolf

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Lamela is a game-changer when he's on the pitch, period. He bleeds, tries and dies for the club. He also- and I literally mean this- was a major part of us making about 50 million Quid extra just last season with that one no-look pass to Kane (who, having thusly attracted a gaggle of Barca defenders- slotted through to Lucas who took us home. That pass- which was as high as high-level gets- was what got us that unbelievable point at the Camp Nou; no one else gets it so cleanly to Kane (whom they were obviously marking the Holy FUCK out of) in order for Harry to even have the chance to slide it across to Moura. That's Lamela: the proverbial "assist-before-the-assist"-guy.

He has made SO many plays like that, and always in MASSIVE matches for us. The bigger the stage, the better he plays. 30 mil? These days (unfortunately) that's a fucking BARGAIN for such a player. Eric Lamela can at times be among the best in the world (yes, I said that).

Am I sick to fucking death of his constant, relentless injuries? Yup- probably more than you lot. Am I just about done with how he plays three top class matches for us and then is subsequently lost for the following four months due to some injury we never even saw? Uh-huh; it kills me. Do we need a player in his position that can stay on the pitch? Yes, we do. So yeah- I agree with his detractors re: his constant, unremitting injury woes. So therefore should we offload him? Heavens no. Sometimes you just have to take the good with the bad, a la Ledley King, and simply allow a frustrating player to remain a part of the club if- and only IF- said player is Spurs to his fucking CORE- which Lamela is.

When he first came to us I doubt he knew what city we were in; 7 years on and it's plain to see that we are his one and only club. Unlike that smarmy little fuck Dirksen, Lamela- somehow, someway- grew to love us, which in my book counts for something. Why did Poch love him? Why does Jose love him? Why do I love him? Because there's something old-school about him- something different to the modern, spoiled, prima donna little bitch of a player. Lamela seems like the type who'd play for free now if it meant staying here. He knows the club stuck by him and he is arguably the most Tottenham-player we have. Hell, even Kane might fly the coop soon; but I'm betting Erik Lamela would prefer to be a lifer here.

Sadly, he may not get that choice- and I get it; football, after all, has no time for sentiment, business is business, etc. But I do have time for sentiment, and my heart skips a beat when I think of him tormenting Wilshire, or letting an elbow fly vs. PSV in the Champions league, or constantly doing any of Chelscum or Manure or Shitty dirty...point is the guy is a true warrior. Opposing fans hate him (always a good sign), opposing players loathe him (again: great sign) and our fans- even his detractors- know beyond all doubt that he gives every fiber of his being for the cause, for the cockerel...

Rationally, I get it: he's gotta go because he's too injury prone. But football isn't rational and I myself am the furthest thing from the word- so I say sign him and keep him here until the end. I want him to retire as a Spur.

Oh and lastly, none of my undying love for the guy is sexual. I don't know who told you that but it is complete and utter bullshit. I am straight, not gay. I may find him attractive in the sense of yes he's a good-looking guy- but what's wrong with that? What- I'm gay now? That's ridiculous. You're ridiculous. The fact that you brought the whole thing up is ridiculous. It's like some of you have these hidden obsessions and you can't admit them so you transfer them onto people like me. I didn't even say anything and now I'm having to defend myself for liking the guy. Nothing wrong with gay people I'm just not one of them so I'd appreciate it if you took your assumptions and innuendos somewhere else. I can appreciate a guy's looks without swinging that way. What? Was the fuck is your problem? What's with the look on your face? Jesus- gimme a break, ok? It's nothing more than an admiration for an athlete. What- you never thought a dude looked cool or anything? ENOUGH! I'm not gay! Fuck! It's called "A guy comfortable enough with his sexuality that he can be frank about it!"

Christ guys- give it a rest...
Nah he's shit.
 

Wig

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As well as having no idea how to influence the attack (One goal, one assist in over 100 games)
We won't get back to having an effective team, whilst he is taking up one of the spots.


Points per game for our players this season when they have played (5 games minimum) - Team average is 1,41.
If you get taken off when losing, and we go on to draw. Player taken off gets loss, substitute gets win, all others get draw.

1.75 Lloris
1.74 Aurier
1.71 Lamela
1.62 Son
1.50 Moura & Dele
1.48 Alderweireld
1.45 Sanchez
1.45 Sissoko & Kane
1.42 Dier
1.40 Bergwijn
1.33 Ndombele
1.30 Eriksen
1.29 LoCelso
1.28 Vertonghen
1.20 Sessegnon
1.14 Davies
1.11 Gazzaniga
1.08 Rose
1.05 Winks
0.83 Tanganga
Interesting numbers... looks like our best first team plays without a recognised left-back! Also doesn't fit the narrative about how much players like Lamela and Aurier are costing us points
 

Cochise

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Aug 8, 2019
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If I was a pro footballer I would not touch spurs with a bargepole the reason being that if this site is a reflection of spurs fans as a whole then the place is a cesspit . Lamela for me is a player that when playing is 100% committed and when the team is under pressure he can be relied upon to fight to the last . As for Winks he is good enough for England and if he was to be sold there would be an almighty scramble to sign him . But for some fans once they dont like you there is no redemption and they refuse to listen to the other fans that like a player they despise . My advice to both Winks and Lamela get out of this club as there are elements supporting this club that would sooner the team lose than be made to get behind a player they dont rate .
This group of fans are deluded rather than take a player and get behind the him and the team they like to compare them to the best in the world in which case they are bound to lose any argument of how good they are .
As I say my fellow spurs fans where I sit thankfully see in Winks a player that keeps it simple and is always available to receive a pass and has shown when playing for England can be effective pushed further forward .
In Lamella they see a player that for a period a year or so ago was the heartbeat of the team and his 100% commitment set the tempo particularly when he came of the bench and we were struggling he would give the side a lift .
All I can say is if you are a spurs fan and dont rate any particular player dont talk about them as tho they are the spawn of the devil just say this or that particular player is " not for me " and leave it at that .

So in your opinion, are fans allowed to comment on a player's shortcomings? Because both of those players have them and it would be wrong at least in my opinion not to comment. I agree that consistently bashing a player for something they have improved on is wrong and some people won't change their mind once it's made up, but others will.

Take the Winks comments for example. I started off as a massive fan of the lad from the moment I first saw him at U18 level. At some point however he got pushed from an #8 to this #6 role, and whilst his passing game is suited to it, he still hasn't mastered the defensive side of it. We have a terrible defensive record which naturally means his position is under scrutiny. Is it his fault? Yes and no is my opinion. Either way though, he has to either re-invent himself from this player he was moulded into under Poch or improve his defensive game.
 

cider spurs

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I see no problem with fans questiong players' performances on a fans forum, players who ultimately receive a very handsome wage as a result in part of our financial support.

Whenever you invest either financially or emotionally, I think it only reasonable to hope for such gestures to see a positive return.

And herein lies the reason performance scrutiny ensues, not all players meet our expectations at times. Some more so than others. But many of us would've already have a vested interest via our attachments emotionally, and or, financially. We expect a bang for our buck so to speak.

Like I say, I have no problem with constructive criticism, but one thing that does irk me, is the way that certain players are constantly slated for their performances, whilst others appear to get off totally free of blame.

Right...off to the Dele thread.
 
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spursfan77

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I wonder what the chances are that he’ll be our first player to be booked when the games start up again. Must be a good chance!
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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Nov 25, 2012
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I think now his body has had as good a rest as it's ever going to get this remainder of the season will be telling.

If he gets injured again I think we'll have to call it a day.
 

DiVaio

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I hope that he will play fantastic this 9 matches injury free and then Napoli or other club will want to buy him.
 

HildoSpur

Likes Erik Lamela, deal with it.
Oct 1, 2005
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I love Lamela - he is a first teamer when fit without a doubt. If you could get a solid 35 matches out of him every year he would probably be one of our best players. He is the one player I really want to do well once I see him playing because it looks like it means so much to him - just as much as the likes of Winks and Kane who are both as Spurs as it comes.
 

buckley

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There is a difference between "I dont think he's fast enough " or " his all round skill is not good enough " or " for me his play does not suit the team as a whole " and so on rather than "nah he's shit " and that is what I am talking about you can criticise play or players without resorting to absolutes that leave no room for discussion . It just reinforces my opinion that if I was a player and heard what some supporters have to say about their own players I would have to think twice about signing for such a club.I am aware that other fans of other clubs behave in the same way and I still say I am right to expect better of such fans of the club that I love however stupid I might come across .
 
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