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I've literally just noticed that, my apologies.

The fact they probably won't make it through to the knockout stages and won't have to come up against a solid team will probably work in the kids favour as well. He'll get a big move for sure and if the team he plays for bangs them in like RB Salzburg have been (they've scored 16 in 5 games I believe) then there's every chance. By the same token if his next team pulls a group of death type of draw he could easily go 4-5 games without nothing one.

He's done very well and looks a real prospect but teams like Genk giving away 10 goals in 2 games doesn't happen very often in the Champions League, he'll for sure have to work for it.

We haven't played Bayern twice yet... :cautious:
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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Yeah, only a complete joke of a team would give away 9 or 10 goals in only a couple of matches :whistle:

Bit of a difference giving away a mad amount of goals to the likes of Bayern than it is to a team like Salzburg though isn't it?
Haaland looks class but I'd be shocked to see if he can keep up that kind of form into the knockout stages of the competition. @Hakkz , 5 or 6 of Kane's games played have been at a stage Haaland is yet to play at, I'm facsimated to see how he can do when it comes to playing a team bang up for it and bang in form. Napoli are in turmoil, Genk the whipping boys so the only team he's faced with any real form as it stands is Liverpool and he has 1 in 1.

His next move will show us what he's made of but at the moment he looks a real talent and could easily threaten Kane's new record for sure.
 

Hakkz

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Bit of a difference giving away a mad amount of goals to the likes of Bayern than it is to a team like Salzburg though isn't it?
Haaland looks class but I'd be shocked to see if he can keep up that kind of form into the knockout stages of the competition. @Hakkz , 5 or 6 of Kane's games played have been at a stage Haaland is yet to play at, I'm facsimated to see how he can do when it comes to playing a team bang up for it and bang in form. Napoli are in turmoil, Genk the whipping boys so the only team he's faced with any real form as it stands is Liverpool and he has 1 in 1.

His next move will show us what he's made of but at the moment he looks a real talent and could easily threaten Kane's new record for sure.

Yup. Again, I was just looking at the facts. Kane has the record. Haaland has set himself up to break it. That's it.
 

DJS

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Get the ball into the box from out wide at every available opportunity rather than trying to pick a hole through 8 players lined up outside the box. Because we've got Harry Kane.

Jose Mourinho with the most obvious tactical tweaking in football history.

Yeah lovely to see him scoring from actual crosses!

Mourinho has done what England have been doing recently and putting a natural wide player either side of him with Moura being played as an actual out and out wide right winger, which I don't think had happened before and resulted in them getting in the way of each other.

Plus Aurier has been bombing forward and showing his attacking side.

You just can't beat being able to whip crosses into the box, sometimes just keep it simple!
 

DJS

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I do miss the rockets. I think those went when he stopped being selfish and started adopting more of a playmaker role. But he's one of the best I've seen at the 25-yard individual spectacular. He gets so much power from so little backlift, allowing him to hit shots through keepers from distance. The element of surprise in his snapshots means he doesn't have to worry about painting the frame of the goal either. But we know he has those more accurate post-clipping long shots in his locker too.

I'm praying one day he scores a bicycle kick (does anyone remember when he made a sweet connection with one years ago against Arsenal and it was just cleared off the line?). As far as I'm concerned, after his halfway line goal against Juve, a bicycle kick is the only kind of goal he hasn't scored. Maybe there are a few other fringe cases like a scorpion kick. And he definitely needs to score from an undeflected free kick now that I think about it. Okay, fine(!), but the point is that I'm really straining to think of kicks/angles/distances from which Kane hasn't scored. He's such a versatile finisher.

Personally, I think he's a bit too unselfish these days, but someone had to make up for the fact that his fellow forwards, especially towards the end under Poch, were all behaving like strikers in the final third. Kane took that hit. It reduced his average shots per game stat below that of his usual self and that of Son, who has been the primary beneficiary of Kane's less selfish role. As much as I like Son, he's become a lot more selfish than Kane and regularly neglects higher percentage passing options. Not at all surprisingly, the significant reduction in Kane's shots has reduced his total goals, even though he remains clinical when he does shoot.

I hope Jose lays down the law and redefines the forward roles so that everyone is doing what Kane already does: looking for an obvious pass before shooting most of the time. At the end of the day, you would choose Kane to take the lion's share of your shots if you could. For all of Son's extra shooting, he doesn't score more non-penalty goals than Kane.

I miss the days when the DES in the so-called DESK (or substitute Moura if preferred) were scoring 10-20 but also assisting the same amount. Getting back to that may be critical in winning consistently while the team's attack is so much more potent than its defence.

Yeah agreed re: Son, he needs to learn how to pass more as his greed has cost us some potential goals recently.

It does look as though Jose is encouraging Kane to stay up top and central more though, which will only be to his benefit.
 

The Scarecrow

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I've literally just noticed that, my apologies.

The fact they probably won't make it through to the knockout stages and won't have to come up against a solid team will probably work in the kids favour as well. He'll get a big move for sure and if the team he plays for bangs them in like RB Salzburg have been (they've scored 16 in 5 games I believe) then there's every chance. By the same token if his next team pulls a group of death type of draw he could easily go 4-5 games without nothing one.

He's done very well and looks a real prospect but teams like Genk giving away 10 goals in 2 games doesn't happen very often in the Champions League, he'll for sure have to work for it.
Haha, no worries! It's an easy mistake to make, and I probably wouldn't know any better if I weren't Norwegian myself. He's clearly a big fish in a small pond right now, so he's the star man who gets on the end of everything, takes penalties etc. He won't be able to do the same at a big club with more egos imo.
 

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True but if he goes to Man U (as rumoured) he'll be waiting a while to beat it :LOL:

I hope he doesn't go to United as his Dad's career was almost ended by Roy Keane.

Anyway, when was Harry Kane's last long range goal? Was it the one against Wolves at Wembley last season?
 

dagraham

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Yeah lovely to see him scoring from actual crosses!

Mourinho has done what England have been doing recently and putting a natural wide player either side of him with Moura being played as an actual out and out wide right winger, which I don't think had happened before and resulted in them getting in the way of each other.

Plus Aurier has been bombing forward and showing his attacking side.

You just can't beat being able to whip crosses into the box, sometimes just keep it simple!

One of the reasons Liverpool have been so successful recently.
 

DJS

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One of the reasons Liverpool have been so successful recently.

Do they tend to whip balls in then?

Surpising as with their two wide boys being their main scorers and Firminio being a kinda false 9 and hold up / focal point they’d not be making as many crosses?

Although guess crosses tend to come from the full backs rather than the wingers.

You can’t beat getting the ball in the boss though, good to be able to thread through middle too but how many times in recent games had we been shut out as was far too narrow.
 

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Do they tend to whip balls in then?

Surpising as with their two wide boys being their main scorers and Firminio being a kinda false 9 and hold up / focal point they’d not be making as many crosses?

Although guess crosses tend to come from the full backs rather than the wingers.

You can’t beat getting the ball in the boss though, good to be able to thread through middle too but how many times in recent games had we been shut out as was far too narrow.

Terrence Trent Darby Alexander and that Robertson lad get a phenomenal amount of assists.
 

spursfan77

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Yeah lovely to see him scoring from actual crosses!

Mourinho has done what England have been doing recently and putting a natural wide player either side of him with Moura being played as an actual out and out wide right winger, which I don't think had happened before and resulted in them getting in the way of each other.

Plus Aurier has been bombing forward and showing his attacking side.

You just can't beat being able to whip crosses into the box, sometimes just keep it simple!

Regarding England, I wouldn’t be surprised in Mourinho has watched Southgate get more out of Kane playing like this and has pimped it up with his superior management skills to Southgate and will continue to do so.

He’ll be working on a plan B too as well I’d expect. He’s too long in the tooth to know that managers will be looking at how to exploit our tactics already. Especially because the media has been highlighting them so much over the last week.
 

dagraham

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Do they tend to whip balls in then?

Surpising as with their two wide boys being their main scorers and Firminio being a kinda false 9 and hold up / focal point they’d not be making as many crosses?

Although guess crosses tend to come from the full backs rather than the wingers.

You can’t beat getting the ball in the boss though, good to be able to thread through middle too but how many times in recent games had we been shut out as was far too narrow.

yeah it comes from their fullbacks and the delivery is top class. So the opposition has to worry about the interplay of the front 3 and the overlapping fullbacks with superb delivery. A pretty potent combination.
 

Hakkz

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Do they tend to whip balls in then?

Surpising as with their two wide boys being their main scorers and Firminio being a kinda false 9 and hold up / focal point they’d not be making as many crosses?

Although guess crosses tend to come from the full backs rather than the wingers.

You can’t beat getting the ball in the boss though, good to be able to thread through middle too but how many times in recent games had we been shut out as was far too narrow.

The fullbacks can always aim for Firmino and the forward on the opposite side, as well as CMs arriving late.
 

Steffen

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I've literally just noticed that, my apologies.

The fact they probably won't make it through to the knockout stages and won't have to come up against a solid team will probably work in the kids favour as well. He'll get a big move for sure and if the team he plays for bangs them in like RB Salzburg have been (they've scored 16 in 5 games I believe) then there's every chance. By the same token if his next team pulls a group of death type of draw he could easily go 4-5 games without nothing one.

He's done very well and looks a real prospect but teams like Genk giving away 10 goals in 2 games doesn't happen very often in the Champions League, he'll for sure have to work for it.

I’m not so sure they won’t qualify for the knockout stages. They played well away at Liverpool, and lost 4-3. That means that a 1-0, 2-1 or 3-2 victory home to ‘Pool gets them through.
Liverpool are looking more and more knackered, and injuries are finally hitting them. A Salzburg win is not that unlikely.
 

1966

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I hope he doesn't go to United as his Dad's career was almost ended by Roy Keane.

Anyway, when was Harry Kane's last long range goal? Was it the one against Wolves at Wembley last season?
That one was a spectacular goal, wasn't it?

Depending on how you define long range, I believe that was indeed his last real 25-35 yarder. He has scored from outside the box since then but I'd tend to agree with your definition of "long range" if that Wolves special is the benchmark.

Personally, I do controversially count his no-look, first-time halfway line goal against Juve -- partly because it was against Juve and also because it would've gone in regardless of the stakes. It's such a shame that wasn't in a competitive match. If he does it in the CL, it's goal of the season for that tournament.

He just doesn't attempt low-percentage shots anymore (or at least he didn't towards the end under Poch, which I think is an issue of morale sucking out that streak of arrogance in his game). I hope he brings the long shots back. And when the team's already strolling or pegged into their own half, I hope he doesn't forget that he's got a halfway line lob up his sleeve (I know he almost pulled it off again already this season).

Time will tell us (a) how much freedom Jose gives him to attempt more worldies and (b) whether Kane's got his mojo back under Jose (which so far seems clearly to be the case). I suspect we'll be seeing a lot more worldies simply by dint of the fact that Jose's Spurs will provide Kane more shooting opportunities. It's a shame that Poch stopped being able to do that efficiently enough.
 

1966

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Yeah agreed re: Son, he needs to learn how to pass more as his greed has cost us some potential goals recently.

It does look as though Jose is encouraging Kane to stay up top and central more though, which will only be to his benefit.
Yep, I'm happy with how Jose has the attack playing.

And yeah, although Son's selfishness hasn't cost much yet, it will eventually while we still have a crisis at the back combined with an attack with the potential to outscore opponents.

(I've noticed I'm saying "we" a lot these days in referring to Spurs here. Ha. I guess I'm an honorary fan too.)
 
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