The Mauricio Pochettino thread

Gareth88 · Nov 3, 2019

SpursFox said:
I know its been said for most of the matches recently, but I think if we lose next week or whimper to a point, it really has to be it. While I am still not completely writing top four off just yet, as technically if we actually start playing well we aren't too far behind to catch either one of third or fourth, it is looking incredibly unlikely now. Sure a 'top six' spot is well within reach if things change to a reasonable degree, but so is a bottom six spot or even worse if they don't change. The Prem is more competitive down there than it was fifteen years ago or so, you can't just play very badly the whole season and hope you will be fine cause there's at least three teams terrible enough to be worse off than you. Relegation scraps are joked about, but if nothing changes it will be the reality of our predicament. I think its clear Levy does not want to sack him now, either because he genuinely believes in him or because of the financial issues with pulling the trigger, but there has to be some cut-off point before it gets ridiculous and before potential replacements are snapped up by our competitors who are in similar or better positions already. I am sad that this is where we are right now, and I really have enjoyed the last few years, despite the lack of trophies and that being hung over our heads, but the writing is very much on the wall.

I read your first line and thought it's not going to happen.

werty · Nov 3, 2019

thefierycamel said:
My point is they have one truly dreadful game and he's out, we have an awful 10 months and we still haven't done anything. It's fine to not be at the absolute pinnacle but I firmly believe that 10+ clubs in the prem alone would have cut ties by this point, let alone the top CL clubs. Sure, our expectations shouldn't necessarily have to match Bayern, but based on the evidence, they're absolutely nowhere near them and isn't that where the club reportedly want to be, in the upper tier of world football?

But he wasn't sacked just on the back of one result. He's been on the hot seat since getting knocked out by Liverpool on the last 16 and unwanted by fans before he even had his first game.

I don't think we can become a club that sacks a manager after just a bad year. Unless he's been a **** behind the scenes.

G Ron · Nov 3, 2019

Tucker said:
When has a manager at a top club ever turned around a run of form this bad and this sustained?

He clearly isn’t going to do it, so what are we waiting for?

Everton were so poor today, any decent side would have put them to the sword.

Exactly this. Had we carved them open at Will, created 20 chances, Pickford had a blinder and the woodwork kept us at bay I’d accept a point. Sadly it was the same old zero tempo, zero press, turgid old shit. Playing with the shackles firmly on once again. This situation is a carbon copy of us under AVB just before he went. The life has been sucked out of the players and supporters and I don’t see how it changes unless a new manager comes in.

Teddy Klinsmann · Nov 3, 2019

No messing about at Bayern. Manager not delivering = Sacked. We muck about for 12 months and stick with ‘the project’. A reason all the successful clubs are successful.

Timberwolf · Nov 3, 2019

Can't see Bayern going for Poch tbh. Especially when Allegri is available.

The man they really want is Nagelsmann though, but I highly doubt he'd leave RB Leipzig so soon.

spurs mental · Nov 3, 2019

Didn't see the game today. Glad I didn't too. From the match thread we barely improved bar maybe Dele. His in game management didn't change, nor did his nonsense tactics. Still selecting Eriksen who by all accounts couldn't pass the ball 2 yards in either direction and leaves him on the pitch for 101 minutes out of 102. Gives a new left back his debut with 1 minute.

Seriously, how do people continue to defend this man?

Yiddo100 · Nov 3, 2019

werty said:
But he wasn't sacked just on the back of one result. He's been on the hot seat since getting knocked out by Liverpool on the last 16 and unwanted by fans before he even had his first game.

I don't think we can become a club that sacks a manager after just a bad year. Unless he's been a **** behind the scenes.

A bad year I think any club is entitled to get rid of the manager, 3/4 months fair enough, but if you’ve not shown you can turn it around in a year why should other people believe yoU can

IamSpurtacus · Nov 3, 2019

skaz04nik said:
The XG map is just ridiculous 1.16 for Eve vs 0.24 for us

Everton 1 - 1 Tottenham (November 03 2019) | EPL | 2019/2020 | xG | Understat.com

Everton 1 - 1 Tottenham. Check out detailed player statistic, goals, assists, key passes, xG, shot map, xGplot.

understat.com

Says it all - great stat

Thing about xG is that it isn't just about how many goals you score

it shows
1) how effective a team is at creating goal scoring chances with the possession they do have,
2) how efficient they are at converting those chances, and
3) the balance of play

You get a much better sense of which team is creating more scoring opportunities, and the quality of those chances, in a way that doesn't get captured by basic shots / possession stats

This measure captures how poor we were against a side that's in relegation form - and that's about where we are...it has to change

M.I.B. · Nov 3, 2019

I'm so sorry it has come to this. It really looked good for a while, didn't it?

But he is done. There will be no "coming back". Whatever has happened, that we are not party to, has to be pretty serious. Whether it's playing style or other internal matters, it's over.

We need to save the season, because at this rate, no-one will want to join us next year, and we will be back to stage 1.

freeeki · Nov 3, 2019

Gareth88 said:
Are you saying the core has been exposed.

I’m trying to tell you there’s no core left

Everlasting Seconds · Nov 3, 2019

IMO, Bayern would be crazy not to go in for Pochettino
Young
Highly experienced in the best league
1 CL final
Can be seen as vital in taking a club from almost CL worthy to a regular CL club.
Gotten extremely much out of slim to naught in player investment
Gotten extremely much out of slim to naught in player investment
Gotten extremely much out of slim to naught in player investment
Gotten extremely much out of slim to naught in player investment
Gotten extremely much out of slim to naught in player investment
Gotten extremely much out of slim to naught in player investment
Gotten extremely much out of slim to naught in player investment
Gotten extremely much out of slim to naught in player investment
Gotten extremely much out of slim to naught in player investment
Gotten extremely much out of slim to naught in player investment
Is unsettled
Can bring Eriksen for free.

bubble07 · Nov 3, 2019

Poch is joint 6th favourite to join Bayern

Yiddo100 · Nov 3, 2019

Teddy Klinsmann said:
No messing about at Bayern. Manager not delivering = Sacked. We muck about for 12 months and stick with ‘the project’. A reason all the successful clubs are successful.

Kovac managed 60 games and won 45 losing 8 and won the double last year, that’s ruthlessness

WiganSpur · Nov 3, 2019

Didn't BILD suggest Bayern had Rangnick lined up to replace Kovac a few weeks ago?

Gareth88 · Nov 3, 2019

freeeki said:
I’m trying to tell you there’s no core left

I'll see it with my own... with my own eyes. [vomits on the table] I apologize. [collapses]

midoshairband · Nov 3, 2019

I’m beginning to really dislike Poch. and Eriksen. and really want them both gone.

I mean, after all they’ve done, that’s just ahouldn’t be happening. I should love them and want them to stay. but its really not working. we need change asap.

werty · Nov 3, 2019

Yiddo100 said:
A bad year I think any club is entitled to get rid of the manager, 3/4 months fair enough, but if you’ve not shown you can turn it around in a year why should other people believe yoU can

Do you have faith in Levy to get a manager in that will do better?

Mr Pink · Nov 3, 2019

It's the compensation that's preventing Levy. We all know that.

Just a fucking mess left, right and centre.

The manager/player dynamic is broken, it's not changing.

G Ron · Nov 3, 2019

It’s Tragic, you know, Mauricio Pochettino ?

Jay. · Nov 3, 2019

Go all out for Simeone? Thoughts?

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