Johnny J
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It's a sacrifice I'm prepared to make.
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Gassin's finest
C'est diabolique
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Hey... slag the players and the coaches and the owners all you like. But leave Gladys alone.
JonnySpurs
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Have to be honest, it feels like Mourinho is lining himself up for Spurs. Arsenal & Everton are probably the only other clubs that could potentially be next to fire their manager, although I highly doubt Emery will leave Arsenal this season as they will continue to be just about good enough to keep him in a job, without ever threatening for the title.
Everton certainly have the money but they are some way behind us when it comes to everything else, e.g. stadium, training ground etc.
If Poch does go then I've been against us appointing Jose. With that said, I feel like the situation at Utd was a bit of a toxic one and created a great deal of tension and stress and made him a fucking misery quite honestly. He was constantly defensive in interviews/press conferences and it all felt like a very negative tenure. However, the reality is that he did get them trophies and took them to 2nd place in 2017/18.
I still don't think he's the right man long term but there is a sense of inevitability at this stage that it will be him if Poch can't right the ship.
Everton certainly have the money but they are some way behind us when it comes to everything else, e.g. stadium, training ground etc.
If Poch does go then I've been against us appointing Jose. With that said, I feel like the situation at Utd was a bit of a toxic one and created a great deal of tension and stress and made him a fucking misery quite honestly. He was constantly defensive in interviews/press conferences and it all felt like a very negative tenure. However, the reality is that he did get them trophies and took them to 2nd place in 2017/18.
I still don't think he's the right man long term but there is a sense of inevitability at this stage that it will be him if Poch can't right the ship.
dagraham
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I’m actually starting to think he’ll end up at the Gooners. I didn’t think they could feasibly sack Emery so soon, but the vibe there seems poisonous. Far more poisonous than it does with us ( at least in the stadium). We may be questioning things, but we’re not booing players or the managers substitutions etc.
Depressingly, I think Mourinho would be the perfect manager to sort them out. They are good going forward and creative, but flakey and can’t defend. And although the current generation of Arsenal fans have been brought up on great football, there are many who still remember “1-0 to the Arsenal” and would be quite happy to go back to it.
Gb160
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Pretty sure they've got a clause so as they can get rid of Emery at the end of the season with no payout...if that's right they could give him the flick now and only have to pay him until then.
They're in a much kinder position than we are financially to pull the trigger.
Japhet
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Can you remember a time when he wasn't miserable and defensive just out of interest?
Sp3akerboxxx
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Just to put Jose Mourinho into context:
In 137 years, Tottenham Hotspur have won 26 major trophies.
In the last 17 years Jose Mourinho has won 25 major trophies, and apparently averages a trophy about once every 34 matches.
If Jose Mourinho joins any other club apart from Tottenham next, then he will have won more trophies in 18 years than Tottenham Hotspur have managed to win since the club was created.
Not getting Jose Mourinho in when he is available is the definition of stupid.
In 137 years, Tottenham Hotspur have won 26 major trophies.
In the last 17 years Jose Mourinho has won 25 major trophies, and apparently averages a trophy about once every 34 matches.
If Jose Mourinho joins any other club apart from Tottenham next, then he will have won more trophies in 18 years than Tottenham Hotspur have managed to win since the club was created.
Not getting Jose Mourinho in when he is available is the definition of stupid.
Not with the same club though.
Only by club hopping
spending money
wrecking things
and moving on pronto
Never managed anywhere
longer than 3 and a half years.
Poison for baubles.
No thanks.
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He needs to start winning. Not a lot else will sort this.
No point looking beyond the weekend at Everton.
No point looking beyond the weekend at Everton.
mill
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How long does pep tend to stay at clubs?
Sp3akerboxxx
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Well you can have managers for another 20 years and no trophies, or you can hire Jose Mourinho and win more trophies in two seasons than this club has in the last 35 years combined.
Why is it that people think Jose is "toxic"? Because he fell out with some players? Anyone remember Fergie making Beckham have to go and get stitches? What about Pochettino apparently losing the backing of two sets of senior players within 5 years?
If you want a high profile manager who the players will respect and stay for, who seemingly wins trophies (including this league multiple times) simply by turning up, then hire Jose Mourinho.
If you want to keep winning fuck all with a series of managers who cannot change the mentality at the club, then keep doing what we're doing I suppose.
This is nonsense.
'and win more trophies in two seasons than this club has in the last 35 years combined'
Is there a money-back guarantee on this?
He's toxic because
the cure is worse than the disease.
He doesn't stay long enough
for a re-build
Only for an expensive
cowboy tart up.
Trophies are not nailed on
at this time
at this club
with this manager.
The Doc
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On top of this, leaving aside the pros and cons of appointing him, what is it about our chairman's mo and Mourinho's equivalent that makes anyone think this has the remotest chance of happening?
Sp3akerboxxx
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So your only criticism is that he "doesn't stay long enough"?
Jose gets the job done in 2 years that Levy has been trying to do in 20 years.
We are apparently losing the entire spine of our team in the summer, including every member of our starting back 4. We need to do an "expensive" rebuild regardless of who is manager. I'd rather it be with a manager who can actually turn that rebuild into trophies, instead of another manager like Pochettino who does a 5 year rebuild, wins nothing, and then says it needs another entirely new rebuild just to get back to not winning things with style like we were 3 years ago.
In the last 17 years Jose Mourinho has NEVER failed to win a trophy with any team he has managed.
If Jose Mourinho can;t win trophies at Tottenham, no one can.
Sp3akerboxxx
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The transfer market has changed hugely. We repeatedly smash our transfer record, with Rose, Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Aurier, Eriksen, and Wanyama all leaving in the summer we need to spend money regardless of who is the manager.
When it comes to players like Kane and Son, they must surely be wondering whether or not they even can win trophies here. Jose Mourinho is the biggest statement of intent a chairman like Levy can make in regards to a commitment to providing the trophies that players like Kane and Son could be winning elsewhere.
As for wages, Pochettino is already the second highest paid manager in the Premier League (he gets paid more than Klopp) and will cost us £32m to end his contract now. Whatever Jose is demanding seems like a much smaller risk than what we are already taking.
Rumours abound that Jose is desperate to work in London due to his family, so we're only really competing with Arsenal for his signature, and Emery seems to be safer than Pochettino at the moment.
Even if you add up all of Jose's wages and a severance you come out at around £50m. Can anyone name a player right now that for £50m could have as great an influence on our trophy winning ability than Jose Mourinho would? When you consider bringing in Harry Maguire costs you £85m these days, then getting Jose Mourinho for £50m seems an absolute steal.
Sp3akerboxxx
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@JimmyG2
Our starting back four is Rose, Jan, Alderweireld, and Aurier. All have tried to leave in the last 12 months. None are expected to stay this summer. Hyperbole how?
Jose Mourinho has averaged almost two trophies a season since he started management. Since Jose has been a manager, he has won 25 trophies. Since Jose has been a Manager, Tottenham have won 1 trophy (League Cup in 07/08, where we ironically beat a Jose side in the final). So to say that Jose can do in 2 years what Levy has tried to do in 20 is not hyperbole.
Since the year 2000 Tottenham have won 1 trophy, or, 0.053 trophies a season.
Since the year 2000 Jose Mourinho has won 25 trophies, or, 1.316 trophies a season.
It is odd that you feel that a manager who has won trophies in every league he has ever worked in, including trophies with two teams in the SAME league that we play in, would suddenly become a loser if he joined us is a strange position to take.
Since Jose Mourinho won his first trophy as a manager, we would be literally the only team he has ever failed to win something with.
Gassin's finest
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Well, that would rule us out I guess:
www.football365.com
Mourinho reveals what he wants from next club amid Arsenal link - Football365
Football365 - Jose has revealed he wants a club where he can "play to win" as he eyes a return to football management.
www.football365.com
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