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The Mauricio Pochettino thread
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dagraham
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I don’t see a problem with tactical tinkering for specific opponents ( in fact I’d welcome it sometimes), but with one obvious caveat : it has to work!
The performances over the last year or so generally ( in particular often starting games really badly) suggests otherwise, so I could see how some players may have seeds of doubt sown.
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This is it for me, I can handle unattractive football if we're getting results...I can sacrifice results for attractive football.
But apart from glimpses, we've been getting neither for quite a while now.
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It’s not a stretch is it either. We were all fed up with it last season so it’s no surprise the players are. Cheers trix. Would explain the vertonghen business for sure then.
Won’t be long before that hits the press then if agents have got wind of it.
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Of course it is but it has been going on for a long while now and that is a concern.
I think Liverscum are the benchmark. They were behind us i mean just remember the 4-1 game at Wembley.
Now look.
Thats not all down to Poch because we have been at Wembley and had the stadium to contend with BUT we were still successful even at Wembley. The difference is that Liverscum bought well...
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The thing is it barely does work. Players spend time getting used to doing a certain thing and being told to do certain things, if two weeks later they get told to do different things they are going to get frustrated and start to question things as soon as we lose - which we are doing more frequently now.
Players will stick with you and be prepared to wait if you give the same/similar message (as long as they see positives) but if you're changing it from week to week they will just get confused and worse, pissed off.
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Im not sure its down to that.
Seems the difference is their manager is 100% at it, and his players are still willing to run through walls for him.
They barely strengthened this summer, yet they're absolutely flying.
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How much longer is levy going to put up with this. It’s not going to have escaped him. No top 4 and he’ll be gone at the end of the season I suspect.
If he goes, has to be one of Allegri, Ancelotti, Tuchel, Benitez, Mourinho or Simeone. Obviously there’d be an order and if it meant waiting until the summer for one of the top 2/3 from that list then so be it. Simeone and Tuchel might be long shots, Ancelotti too, but no harm in trying.
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Wow palace and wet spam ahead
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Howe is not on Pochettinho's level. We have to stick together painful it is.... But I feel Pochettinho has to be allowed time to build refresh the team.
So many rotten eggs in the squad minds are elsewhere.
They aren’t absolutely flying imo, but I understand your point.
Klopps a better manager when all is said and done. They traded brilliantly in the market too. We could have got £140m for Dele at one stage, like they did for Coutinho. We’d be lucky to get £40m for him now! Same with Eriksen.
Could have been us buying Van Dijk six months before Liverpool did. Fucking laughable even suggesting it now! Ridiculous how we were comfortably ahead of them for years and suddenly we’ve gone backwards at the same high speed they’ve gone forwards.
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Last season was a very weird season. Apart from being the only team in the league not to sign anyone, it was quite apparent from a few games in that we weren’t a well oiled machine anymore.
Whatever the many reasons for that, other than a handful of games we didn’t really play well at all. Yet we kept winning in the main, with me scratching my head as to how we were doing it.
We then continued in a similar vein except results started to mirror performances, but a lot of our rivals were so crap we got away with it.
And right in the middle of all this we reached the CL final, something I never thought I’d see.
It was all very surreal and hard to get much perspective from.
I don’t get why people are blaming Levy. Everyone knows I’m far from his biggest fan and criticise his transfer policy and ambition often, however he clearly delivered Poch his three top targets and nearly a fourth in dybala who might still come in Jan.
You look at the squad we have and the performances and results just aren’t matching, and there is clearly a drop in motivation levels. Poch has easily a good enough squad to be doing much better than he has been doing.
It isn’t overreaction to say the wheels have fallen off at Spurs. I can sense it and it’s why I’ve lost all enthusiasm for Spurs this season.
What Trix is saying tallies up with what we are seeing on the pitch. Players aren’t as motivated.
I honestly don’t see how Poch turns this around. You don’t change a whole squad of players. You change the coach.
We should be doing far better than we are. Look at the regression in form and performances from practically every single player in the squad. Poch is no longer improving players.
Levy isn’t perfect but you can’t start blaming him for the 2019 performances and results. That falls on Poch. We are easily third best squad in the league but we are playing like a relegation side.
Then you look at all the weird stuff Poch has done, including the book. Yes it was a weird thing to do, you should never do that whilst you’re still at the club. Then his weird public comments about leaving etc plus the fact we always lose key games under him and never win any trophies. That’s a huge failing.
I feel if we get a new manager it has to be a huge name with experience of winning trophies. Ramos being our last trophy winning manager with the team we’ve had for the last 5 years is a disgrace really.
You look at the squad we have and the performances and results just aren’t matching, and there is clearly a drop in motivation levels. Poch has easily a good enough squad to be doing much better than he has been doing.
It isn’t overreaction to say the wheels have fallen off at Spurs. I can sense it and it’s why I’ve lost all enthusiasm for Spurs this season.
What Trix is saying tallies up with what we are seeing on the pitch. Players aren’t as motivated.
I honestly don’t see how Poch turns this around. You don’t change a whole squad of players. You change the coach.
We should be doing far better than we are. Look at the regression in form and performances from practically every single player in the squad. Poch is no longer improving players.
Levy isn’t perfect but you can’t start blaming him for the 2019 performances and results. That falls on Poch. We are easily third best squad in the league but we are playing like a relegation side.
Then you look at all the weird stuff Poch has done, including the book. Yes it was a weird thing to do, you should never do that whilst you’re still at the club. Then his weird public comments about leaving etc plus the fact we always lose key games under him and never win any trophies. That’s a huge failing.
I feel if we get a new manager it has to be a huge name with experience of winning trophies. Ramos being our last trophy winning manager with the team we’ve had for the last 5 years is a disgrace really.
That’s absolutely pathetic. 2 points more than Newcastle? Below West Ham and Palace? Fucking embarassing
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Would never happen.
Allegri
Mourinho
As they are both winners and are tactical astute in those big defining moments. Allegri outsmarted Poch when we were panning them 2 years ago.
Nagelsmann
Favre
If we want someone refreshing and to work with the youngsters.
With Mourinho, I worry for Foyth, Sanchez and KWP as he'd prefer experience. But if we win stuff I guess that would be after thoughts.
God, this is all a little depressing and deflating.
daveduvet
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The players look like they’re going through their paces - bored almost...
Its definitely not down to that but it plays a big role. We did not buy a single player last season... we needed two or three and we got absolutely no one. That is for a manager frustrating and can hinder his mindset for sure.
I think Poch has seen Klopp and Liverpool and thought hang on - what the fuck... and thats frustrated him and angered him. Its like someone starting behind you in the hierarchy yet getting promoted because he has all the opportunities and you had jack to deal with.
Its built up to this i guess.
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