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Bruno Fernandes

rossdapep

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Hi. I'm a long time reader, but decided to actually join because of this thread. I live in Lisbon, and as far as reliability goes, there are a couple of things to note.

A Bola is the Benfica newspaper.
Record is the Sporting CP newspaper.
(O Jogo is a bit more evenly spread, but also a bit Porto).

The rule of thumb at the moment - it was different under Bruno de Carvalho - is that if Record is posting something pro-Sporting, take it with a pinch of salt. If it's anti-Sporting, and that includes news of Fernandes asking to leave, there is quite possibly truth there.
Equally, if it's pro-Sporting in A Bola, it is very likely true. If it's anti-Sporting, it could be anything.

I go to a fair few Sporting games (they're my Portuguese team), and Fernandes is brilliant. The best player in Portugal in my opinion. I would say though that he is far more a Dele-like player than Eriksen. If he is being seen as an Eriksen replacement, I would suggest that it would be because Poch wants to change the way we play. Which I believe is something that has been discussed. Having said that, he actually came to Sporting more in the Eriksen mould, and he's evolved. Possibly because he's better than Liga NOS, so he could. So who knows.
Good to hear there's a fellow yid in Lisbon!
 

SDogg

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From watching his highlights, it's the same conclusion I came to. Definitely looks more in the Dele mould than an Eriksen type.
Dele needs bit of competition this will do him good and gives us more options if it happens, add lo celso and we are stronger than last year even if eriksen goes
 

nedley

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So all the talk from Dan Kilpatrick is that it's Lo Celso or Fernandes as the replacement for Eriksen. Will be extremely disappointing if thats the case: if there isn't another addition to complement.

Would show a real lack of ambition.
 

Timberwolf

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In general play style he looks more like Dele but he has a few Eriksen traits too. Eriksen and Fernandes shoot from range a lot more and Fernandes also looks like he releases the ball a bit quicker than Alli.
 

thePessimist

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So all the talk from Dan Kilpatrick is that it's Lo Celso or Fernandes as the replacement for Eriksen. Will be extremely disappointing if thats the case: if there isn't another addition to complement.

Would show a real lack of ambition.

Agree. With all the talk about ambition, moving forward, next chapter and being brave, that’s a massive disappointment if true.
 

robertgoulet

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So all the talk from Dan Kilpatrick is that it's Lo Celso or Fernandes as the replacement for Eriksen. Will be extremely disappointing if thats the case: if there isn't another addition to complement.

Would show a real lack of ambition.
I agree however it’s also likely he’s been fed that by the club. They wouldn’t want Betis and Sporting to know that they want both. It’s to the Club’s benefit to make them think it’s one or the other.
 

bombarda

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Good to hear there's a fellow yid in Lisbon!
I go and watch a lot of the games in Couch Bar, down at Cais. Although I watched both Ajax games in a craft beer bar in Graça, as the owner knows I'm a Spurs fan. The entire bar was fully COYS by the time we'd made it 2-2 in Amsterdam.
 

AJW

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So all the talk from Dan Kilpatrick is that it's Lo Celso or Fernandes as the replacement for Eriksen. Will be extremely disappointing if thats the case: if there isn't another addition to complement.

Would show a real lack of ambition.

This is the issue with the English window closing earlier. Clubs are in no rush to sign Eriksen - knowing his contract is running down. But we can’t risk signing two AM incase he stays. Irritating position
 

RichieS

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This is the issue with the English window closing earlier. Clubs are in no rush to sign Eriksen - knowing his contract is running down. But we can’t risk signing two AM incase he stays. Irritating position
We can if we're sure he's going. Want to leave on a free? Here's the bench...
 

OpenHeartZoo

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From watching his highlights, it's the same conclusion I came to. Definitely looks more in the Dele mould than an Eriksen type.

Have to say I’m judging purely from YouTube but I disagree. His passing and vision from deep is on another level to Dele, as is his dribbling ability. He isn’t a speed merchant but he’s able to dribble through congested areas and get a pass away.

Dele for me is a second striker all day, not a midfielder. This guy is. Whether he can adapt to the PL is a whole other question I’m not qualified to answer. Both BF and GLC carry some risk imo.
 

piedpiper

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And in the meantime we have spent 120 million plus to replace him whilst he goes for nothing...

if that is the case then the club will have to live with it. we've known for months he wanted to move. in any case he would leave for free next season anyway. his replacement would be far more expensive then.

we need to secure ourselves in the event a bidder comes in after our window closes. anything less than that is suicide as it leaves us short until January.

I mentioned this else where previously... we only paid about 11 Million pounds for him. we wouldn't be taking a financial hit other than the opportunity cost of his resale value.
 

RichieS

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And in the meantime we have spent 120 million plus to replace him whilst he goes for nothing...
He'll need replacing eventually and in this case the transfer fees are less of a consideration than the fabled "paying a player for doing nothing", I think. If press "spin" is to be believed, Eriksen's on a fairly modest wage (relatively speaking), so that cost is probably bearable.
 

Johnny J

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Have to say I’m judging purely from YouTube but I disagree. His passing and vision from deep is on another level to Dele, as is his dribbling ability. He isn’t a speed merchant but he’s able to dribble through congested areas and get a pass away.

Dele for me is a second striker all day, not a midfielder. This guy is. Whether he can adapt to the PL is a whole other question I’m not qualified to answer. Both BF and GLC carry some risk imo.
His touch is wayyyy better than Dele, who is mercurial: capable of magic but often lacking technically. Dele's best attribute is his movement.
 
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The Scarecrow

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So all the talk from Dan Kilpatrick is that it's Lo Celso or Fernandes as the replacement for Eriksen. Will be extremely disappointing if thats the case: if there isn't another addition to complement.

Would show a real lack of ambition.
We could have our cake and eat it too, no? Use Fernandes to put pressure on Betis, tie up a deal for GLC, and then finalise Fernandes.
Kilpatrick is fed by the club, so if that's Levy's angle, he'd be stupid to give the whole story to Kilpatrick.
 

cozzo

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I don't want to get too invested in this player and then he doesn't even come
 

OpenHeartZoo

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His touch is wayyyy better than Dele, who is mercurial: capable it magic but often lacking technically. Dele's best attribute is his movement.

Agreed. Dele is better the closer he is to the penalty box/striker. He's a one or two touch player, capable of moments of genius creativity, great movement and a great finisher. And yet I can struggle to think of a slower dribbler of the ball. You want your box-to-box midfielder to be able to power forward with the ball and eat up space. Dele too often massively, massively slows us down whenever he picks up the ball anywhere near the halfway line.

His specific attributes do make it harder to play certain formations effectively.
 

RichieS

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Agreed. Dele is better the closer he is to the penalty box/striker. He's a one or two touch player, capable of moments of genius creativity, great movement and a great finisher. And yet I can struggle to think of a slower dribbler of the ball. You want your box-to-box midfielder to be able to power forward with the ball and eat up space. Dele too often massively, massively slows us down whenever he picks up the ball anywhere near the halfway line.

His specific attributes do make it harder to play certain formations effectively.
Now we've got Ndombélé to do this (ably backed up by Sissoko), Dele's future as a CM would need to involve watching lots and lots of videos of Frank Lampard.

At this stage of his career though I'd rather just see him floating from the left making hay in the gaps created by Kane, as in the last season at the old ground.
 
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