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Match Threads Borussia Dortmund vs Spurs - Match Thread (2nd leg)

Match Prediction to Quarter Finals

  • Spurs to go through on out right win

    Votes: 122 52.1%
  • Spurs to lose but go through on away goal rule

    Votes: 73 31.2%
  • Spurs to go through on Penalties after being beaten 3-0 by Dortmund

    Votes: 3 1.3%
  • Spurs to lose Penalties and drop out after being beaten 3-0 by Dortmund

    Votes: 13 5.6%
  • Spurs to lose and drop out after being overturned by 4 or more goals by Dortmund

    Votes: 23 9.8%

  • Total voters
    234
  • Poll closed .

easley91

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Just stuck on the highlights and I didn't hear it last night but Dortmund were unbeaten at home all season. Not sure if that's all comps or just Europe though. Either way it makes not only going through, but winning with a clean sheet all the more impressive.
 

Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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Just stuck on the highlights and I didn't hear it last night but Dortmund were unbeaten at home all season. Not sure if that's all comps or just Europe though. Either way it makes not only going through, but winning with a clean sheet all the more impressive.

They'd averaged 3 goals a game at home all season or something like that...All we kept hearing about was Reus and Paco was injured for the 1st leg, wait until they come back.

Didn't make a difference in the end.
 

UbeAstard

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May 31, 2005
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Great 2nd half. Massive improvement in the teams personality from the 1st half and the previous few weeks. Hope the board have a plan to keep Poch from that mob from Madrid.

Don't know if any plan is required, surely he is too intelligent to go there.
 

Trix

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Jul 29, 2004
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I personally think Dortmund got their tactics wrong. Obviously they had to come out quickly but imo they pushed it too hard.the intensity was too high and you could see them starting to tire after 35 mins or so. We didn't do hardly any running in that time and were content to sit in and not chase the ball.

I've been very critical of 3 at the back this season but games like last night is how it works. Sitting deep and countering 3 at the back. Playing possession football it should always be a back 4.
 

Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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I personally think Dortmund got their tactics wrong. Obviously they had to come out quickly but imo they pushed it too hard.the intensity was too high and you could see them starting to tire after 35 mins or so. We didn't do hardly any running in that time and were content to sit in and not chase the ball.

I've been very critical of 3 at the back this season but games like last night is how it works. Sitting deep and countering 3 at the back. Playing possession football it should always be a back 4.

How do you explain playing 3 at the back during 2016/17 season whilst playing possession football then?
 

Spurs 1961

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Aug 31, 2012
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I personally think Dortmund got their tactics wrong. Obviously they had to come out quickly but imo they pushed it too hard.the intensity was too high and you could see them starting to tire after 35 mins or so. We didn't do hardly any running in that time and were content to sit in and not chase the ball.

I've been very critical of 3 at the back this season but games like last night is how it works. Sitting deep and countering 3 at the back. Playing possession football it should always be a back 4.

The thing is this is how Dortmund play. At Wembley it was similar they came at us with everything and then tired in the second half especially once we scored. Last season at Wembley it was similar as in the first half they were excellent. But for some quality last minute defending and two great, if identical, breakaway goals from our dynamic duo up front we would have surely, and deservedly, gone in down at half time. However after an hour they just ran our of energy. Look also how before our home leg they lost a 3-0 lead in a fifteen minute spell against Hoffenheim. I believe Poch set us up to play in this way.

Now that leads me on to the away games against Liverpool and City which come soon. I think we can beat Liverpool with the same kind of tactics and have some variation of it against City, though they are more versatile, that is suck them into expending all their energy and hit them on the counter and at the end.
 

Trix

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How do you explain playing 3 at the back during 2016/17 season whilst playing possession football then?
Walker, Rose and Die playing more of a hybrid CM/DM role. I'm not saying it doesn't work period, just not with the personel we now have and Rose not playing with the same intensity as he did 2-3 years ago. If you are playing 3 CB's the full backs have to provide the width. When they play so high up the pitch they then have to get back very quickly when we lose possession. Otherwise the back 3 are too stretched.

I'd also add I think the wing backs are playing too far forward now, level with Kane whereas before we would play them deeper and ask them more to overlap at pace.
 

Giovanni

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Aug 31, 2012
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Probably been meantioned already but does anybody know how much we get for progressing to the QF? So the amount for winning this tie plus anything we get from the next round even if we were to lose.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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Probably been meantioned already but does anybody know how much we get for progressing to the QF? So the amount for winning this tie plus anything we get from the next round even if we were to lose.
About £20,000,000 apparently and more if other English teams go out I think.
 

Monkey boy

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Jun 18, 2011
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Probably been meantioned already but does anybody know how much we get for progressing to the QF? So the amount for winning this tie plus anything we get from the next round even if we were to lose.

I’m sure that I read somewhere that the prize money is split between the English teams with those progressing further getting a larger share of the pot. If that is the case then it would be financially within our interest that at least Liverpool and Man Utd bow out now.
 

Sir Henry

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Aug 18, 2008
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I’m sure that I read somewhere that the prize money is split between the English teams with those progressing further getting a larger share of the pot. If that is the case then it would be financially within our interest that at least Liverpool and Man Utd bow out now.

Man U have no chance, Liverlol have a slight chance, but they have believed their own hype and thought turning up was enough.

If I was a betting man, Id bet on both going out.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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In the knockout stage of the Champions League it is not time wasting it is game management, not that we went overboard with it anyway.
 

easley91

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It's not like Burnley at Wembley going for a 0-0, we had a 3-0 lead to protect. Slowing it down frustrated that oh so famous hyped up yellow wall. We didn't need to go all out. Okay, so we weren't great early on and perhaps rode our luck a little, but after that we grew into it and stood firm.

Don't remember Sancho doing much either. Hyped up English talent who has bossed the Bundesliga came up against Prem defenders and did next to nothing.

They all hyped up the return of Reus for the second leg too, but it was our star man returning into the fold who had the all important say.
 
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