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Even before the mad pricing bandied about post Neymar with Coutinho being touted to Barca at €150m
One of the things that irritate me when people are looking at the potential champions at the beginning of the season is that
IMHO they use the wrong metric.
People look at transfer spend and impute a value as result, and jump to the wrong conclusion.
The next problem is that sites like transfermarkt have no connection with realiy ie Sanchez in his last year is worth more than Kane?
and salaries are not a good metric as Kane Ali and Eriksen combined are on less than Ozil turned down at the goons!
They also do not take into account Daniel Levy!
Whilst value on paper is part of the metric performance on the pitch is another.
I honestly believe that our squad combined value is every bit as valuable as that of Chelsea ManU and ManC.
Not that i want to sell anyone at the moment, but Kane Dele and Eriksen are probably worth in excess of €500m combined.
Add in Song Dier Jan Toby Hugo Rose Davies Victor Tripps Sanchez Aurier at say €50m each = €550
Then put a value of €25m on Janssen Sissoko Lamela Winks Dembele and Onomah = €150m
say, Vickers, Llorente Foyth and KWP at say €15m = €60m
And finally Worm Gazaniga and GKN for say 6.5m = €20
This gives a total value in euros of 1.2b take off 10% for any errors i may have made
and another 10% to convert it back into £ and the squad is worth about £1B.
Now is squad worth 1 billion pounds capable of challenging for the league or even the CL?
how does it stack up in relation to the rest of the EPL? Or even CL?
we must be pretty close
I'm sure plenty will disagree about some of the valuations I have put down but remember who our chairman is he is not renowned for underselling players.
Dembele as is Lamela unfit etc you can potentially quibble a bit but the over all fact is that our squad is worth an awful lot more
than people realise and probably in the same ball park as the so called big clubs post the transfer window.
it is also a young squad with people on long contracts.
I think, had we been at WHL this season, many would have us as joint favourites with the 2 United clubs. Wembley is a factor unfortunately. I think most people would appreciate that our starting XI especially is one of the most valuable. Strength in depth is another issue though, that's taken into account when competing on multiple fronts.
Pundits and people make simplistic assumptions that the teams that spent the most, have the most valuable squads.
Funnily enough its a crazy metric as it does not look at the balance of the squad, so in theory you could spend a huge amount on strikers and have no defence!
i honestly believe that when our long term wounded get back we will be a terrifying proposition both at wembley and away.
There is very little "dead wood" in our squad!
We are now in 3rd place
As long as we stuff, Bournemouth do not get more injuries, and the below link is correct then by 22/10 we should we waiting for Coco on the 5/11
http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php#c19
Our full Squad is special.
After 14 October is an interesting 5 weeks for us with games against Real Madrid, home and away and Dortmund away
With regards to EPL , we have 2 or 3 tricky games on paper, after 14 Oct Bournemouth (h), Liverpool (h) and ManU (a) followed by Palace
Those games will show us how close we are to being title contenders in the EPL, whether we have adjusted to wembley, and finally if we can get any points off RM and later Dortmund where we will finish up in the CL Qualification, if we can beat Apoel at home. 10 + points should see us qualify.
Im not sure if we can get any result against Real Madrid but I'm hoping for a draw away at Dortmund!
In the EPL, It all boils down to whether or not we can recreate last years form in the epl at wembley, I have noticed that we have exactly the same points after the same games last season, as we do now, so can we kick on from that!
See Lighty thread
http://spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/game-for-game-comparison-2017-18.129754/page-3
OP updated
September 16/17
Huddersfield (a) (S'land) D 0-0 - W 4-0 - Level
Total: 14pts
Current projection: 86pts (Please note this is if we match the results from last season)
One of the things that irritate me when people are looking at the potential champions at the beginning of the season is that
IMHO they use the wrong metric.
People look at transfer spend and impute a value as result, and jump to the wrong conclusion.
The next problem is that sites like transfermarkt have no connection with realiy ie Sanchez in his last year is worth more than Kane?
and salaries are not a good metric as Kane Ali and Eriksen combined are on less than Ozil turned down at the goons!
They also do not take into account Daniel Levy!
Whilst value on paper is part of the metric performance on the pitch is another.
I honestly believe that our squad combined value is every bit as valuable as that of Chelsea ManU and ManC.
Not that i want to sell anyone at the moment, but Kane Dele and Eriksen are probably worth in excess of €500m combined.
Add in Song Dier Jan Toby Hugo Rose Davies Victor Tripps Sanchez Aurier at say €50m each = €550
Then put a value of €25m on Janssen Sissoko Lamela Winks Dembele and Onomah = €150m
say, Vickers, Llorente Foyth and KWP at say €15m = €60m
And finally Worm Gazaniga and GKN for say 6.5m = €20
This gives a total value in euros of 1.2b take off 10% for any errors i may have made
and another 10% to convert it back into £ and the squad is worth about £1B.
Now is squad worth 1 billion pounds capable of challenging for the league or even the CL?
how does it stack up in relation to the rest of the EPL? Or even CL?
we must be pretty close
I'm sure plenty will disagree about some of the valuations I have put down but remember who our chairman is he is not renowned for underselling players.
Dembele as is Lamela unfit etc you can potentially quibble a bit but the over all fact is that our squad is worth an awful lot more
than people realise and probably in the same ball park as the so called big clubs post the transfer window.
it is also a young squad with people on long contracts.
I think, had we been at WHL this season, many would have us as joint favourites with the 2 United clubs. Wembley is a factor unfortunately. I think most people would appreciate that our starting XI especially is one of the most valuable. Strength in depth is another issue though, that's taken into account when competing on multiple fronts.
Pundits and people make simplistic assumptions that the teams that spent the most, have the most valuable squads.
Funnily enough its a crazy metric as it does not look at the balance of the squad, so in theory you could spend a huge amount on strikers and have no defence!
i honestly believe that when our long term wounded get back we will be a terrifying proposition both at wembley and away.
There is very little "dead wood" in our squad!
We are now in 3rd place
As long as we stuff, Bournemouth do not get more injuries, and the below link is correct then by 22/10 we should we waiting for Coco on the 5/11
http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php#c19
Our full Squad is special.
After 14 October is an interesting 5 weeks for us with games against Real Madrid, home and away and Dortmund away
With regards to EPL , we have 2 or 3 tricky games on paper, after 14 Oct Bournemouth (h), Liverpool (h) and ManU (a) followed by Palace
Those games will show us how close we are to being title contenders in the EPL, whether we have adjusted to wembley, and finally if we can get any points off RM and later Dortmund where we will finish up in the CL Qualification, if we can beat Apoel at home. 10 + points should see us qualify.
Im not sure if we can get any result against Real Madrid but I'm hoping for a draw away at Dortmund!
In the EPL, It all boils down to whether or not we can recreate last years form in the epl at wembley, I have noticed that we have exactly the same points after the same games last season, as we do now, so can we kick on from that!
See Lighty thread
http://spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/game-for-game-comparison-2017-18.129754/page-3
OP updated
September 16/17
Huddersfield (a) (S'land) D 0-0 - W 4-0 - Level
Total: 14pts
Current projection: 86pts (Please note this is if we match the results from last season)
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