ethanedwards
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Whats to stop them running dual leagues, domestic at weekends, a European Super League midweek for the elite clubs.
European Superleague about to become reality?
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spurs9
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Not sure UEFA would be happy with the teams effectively ruining the champions league.
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I think this would happen, too, and then some teams would go from top 1-2 in their league to 5-6 in a new Superleague. Once the fad dies down, fans drift away - realising there's no challenge, very little in it for them, and even more of a cash grab for the owners - then attendances drop, TV viewerships drop, sponsors aren't seeing any ROI and the whole thing collapses.
The Indian Super League works, sort of, because it's new and intense. Over within 12 (?) weeks and has a new line up of foreign stars for each season. If that was over the course of a whole season the momentum would dry up quickly.
Anyway, if a certain group of clubs want to do it - sod 'em. Let them go. Then don't let them back in when it fails like Kerry Packer's World Series Cricket, or the original NASL.
ethanedwards
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Could EUFA run it ?
spurs9
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It's a break away from UEFA that is being discussed but I doubt UEFA could do it anyway as there would be an uproar from all of the individual associations.
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The thing is, if there's fuckloads of money to be made from it you can be sure UEFA will do their best to bend over backwards to get involved.
If not, they can just suspend the clubs from their domestic leagues and their players from playing in their country's international teams. That would upset the players you'd hope.
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It crops up every decade doesn't it. Although now that they are actually pictures together who knows what's going on. They might be discussing moving to individual tv contracts as much as a European super league. The reporter doesn't know unless he was in the meeting or listening through the wall.
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Why would the Russians, Americans or Saudi's give a toss about what the FA or Uefa have to say on the matter. Their only priority is self preservation and to hell with the consequences. If the likes of Pool or Arsenal ever think they can consistently compete with the likes of Real or Barca they are trully deluded. If they want to leave, I wouldn't be against it tbh, but it would need to be made very clear they could not just come back when it all goes tits up.
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That is the real point, these aren't English clubs these are three American companies one Russian company and one Arab company.
Peter Coates from Stoke on talk sport at the moment talking about it being the European giants wanting to get involved with our clubs.
Sandros Shiny Head
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Why would Liverpool want to consolidate themselves as the Aston Villa of this new league? 
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More like wanting a slice of the Premier league financial pie.
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Exactly, this isn't driven by English clubs as the media reporting but by the other elite clubs in Europe who are envious of the Premier League's finances
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Yep we will be over taking some of them in next years financial list, even if we win nothing. The likes of Juve and Bayern have every reason to be extremely worried by what lower standing Prem league clubs will be able to offer players now. Will never happen though because no way would the Prem clubs vote anything like this in to practice.
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another driving factor is that champions league TV viewing figures, and attendance at games are in decline. This worries the super rich clubs outside of England.
what none of them get is their preferred "solutions" will just make the problem worse, not better. They need to ask themselves why the average fan is getting bored with the champions league (boring seeded group stages, the ridiculous round of 16 that goes on forever, parachuting teams into the EL, generally making it harder and harder for teams from smaller countries, official UEFA policy to ensure there is NOT an even playing field etc etc).
Their solution? more seeding, more guarantees for rich clubs that they will still be in the competition come March, more barriers to the non-super rich, more barriers to clubs from important but small footballing nations like the Netherlands and Portugal, diverting more and more TV money away from the football "family" towards a small number of clubs - who already have rich backers anyway. And how exactly do they think the average football fan will react to such changes? Will we gratefully agree to pay higher and higher subscription charges to cable and satellite companies? Will we abandon interest in our domestic leagues in unbridled excitement over the super league mid table clash on tuesday night between PSG and Zenit? Will we f***!
what none of them get is their preferred "solutions" will just make the problem worse, not better. They need to ask themselves why the average fan is getting bored with the champions league (boring seeded group stages, the ridiculous round of 16 that goes on forever, parachuting teams into the EL, generally making it harder and harder for teams from smaller countries, official UEFA policy to ensure there is NOT an even playing field etc etc).
Their solution? more seeding, more guarantees for rich clubs that they will still be in the competition come March, more barriers to the non-super rich, more barriers to clubs from important but small footballing nations like the Netherlands and Portugal, diverting more and more TV money away from the football "family" towards a small number of clubs - who already have rich backers anyway. And how exactly do they think the average football fan will react to such changes? Will we gratefully agree to pay higher and higher subscription charges to cable and satellite companies? Will we abandon interest in our domestic leagues in unbridled excitement over the super league mid table clash on tuesday night between PSG and Zenit? Will we f***!
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It would kill football eventually.
The fans of the so called European Elite are fans because their clubs win, or at least compete, on a regular basis at the domestic level. A European Super League would ensure that some of these big boys simply dropped down the pecking order. E.g. Arsenal fans are already pissed off with a Manager that gets them top four every season and is currently competing to win the league. How many of those fans will stick around to support an Arsenal team that goes from being an outside title contender in the Premier League to mid-table fodder in a European Super League? Same applies to Arsenal.
The scary thing is, this may happen. Football is being taken over by non-football men. Even our own club is run by an investment company. As a result there is a lot of short termism view among football owners. It's either their plaything or they are trying to make a quick buck. These people don't care about what the state of football will look like in 20 years.
It's like FIFA, UEFA & the FA. They are completely out of touch with the mentality of the average stadium going fan. They all seem to be more obsessed with pushing the agenda to make football big in the Middle East & Asia. All they care about is TV viewing figures. Who cares if the grounds are half empty if millions of people in China are watching on TV? The governing bodies won't. Neither will the clubs because most of their revenue comes from the TV anyway.
The only people that can stop this absurd thing from eventually happening are the fans. But domestic fans are losing their power every season. For the money men 20m Man Utd fans in China trumps 8m Man Utd fans in the UK.
The fans of the so called European Elite are fans because their clubs win, or at least compete, on a regular basis at the domestic level. A European Super League would ensure that some of these big boys simply dropped down the pecking order. E.g. Arsenal fans are already pissed off with a Manager that gets them top four every season and is currently competing to win the league. How many of those fans will stick around to support an Arsenal team that goes from being an outside title contender in the Premier League to mid-table fodder in a European Super League? Same applies to Arsenal.
The scary thing is, this may happen. Football is being taken over by non-football men. Even our own club is run by an investment company. As a result there is a lot of short termism view among football owners. It's either their plaything or they are trying to make a quick buck. These people don't care about what the state of football will look like in 20 years.
It's like FIFA, UEFA & the FA. They are completely out of touch with the mentality of the average stadium going fan. They all seem to be more obsessed with pushing the agenda to make football big in the Middle East & Asia. All they care about is TV viewing figures. Who cares if the grounds are half empty if millions of people in China are watching on TV? The governing bodies won't. Neither will the clubs because most of their revenue comes from the TV anyway.
The only people that can stop this absurd thing from eventually happening are the fans. But domestic fans are losing their power every season. For the money men 20m Man Utd fans in China trumps 8m Man Utd fans in the UK.
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Couldn't the oil rich clubs just leave the EPL altogether, never to be seen again in domestic leagues, leaving a purer form of the game? It's all about bank notes and greed. I hate it. It sours an already soured game.
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haha "champions" cup, three of them aren't likely to make top 4 let alone present themselves in a pre-season kick about as "champions"
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