The Weekend ITK Discussion Thread 18th/19th July 2015

Dharmabum · Jul 19, 2015

gazzeh said:
Be happy with Berahino. Would be our defoe replacement. Could go on to be a better player though

Defoe was poor as a lone striker so if Spurs get Berahino it would be as a LWF I presume....

jedimonkey · Jul 19, 2015

Ledleys Knee said:
JJ said it's up to him - whether he wants to stay as a squad player, or leave in search of football.

IMO £8m is a decent fee for someone who hasn't performed for 2.5 years and who has a chronic hip condition

I think what he actually said was that it was down to him to show Poch that he wanted to stay by performing in training and later on he has said that it will cost big money to buy him.

£8M is not big money .

mill · Jul 19, 2015

If berahino came in and started acting the twat the other lads his age that come through the academy would soon set him straight

lol · Jul 19, 2015

Lilbaz said:
Mostly that hecwas arrogant. Got a smack off another player at half time when he lost the ball causing the other team to score. Had some laughing gas and got caught drink driving.

Was voted players player of the year for them last year. So he can't be that much of a twat.

i see. I'm cool with arrogance though. nothing wrong with arrogance if you can back it up with your game, like ibra, like CR. if you are arrogant but you're fucking shit like balotelli then fuck off. to be honest after watching his goals, he scores nothing like defoe. defoe blast straight at keeper on every 1 on 1 situation because he has 0 composure. SB on the other hand is really good at putting right footed curlers towards the top right hand corner. that would be fucking perfect for us if he plays on the LW

Hoddtastic72 · Jul 19, 2015

@Bobby__Lucky said:
But costs 20m more for a similar player who will never be in the top echelon of forward players. Just like Defoe... Played like Defoe, reminds me of Defoe, might as well have the real Formica not something like Formica as George once said.

Defoe did quite well for us and over his career has scored 128 in 380 premier league games...if only he could have overcome the drought periods.

millsey · Jul 19, 2015

Dharmabum said:
Defoe was poor as a lone striker so if Spurs get Berahino it would be as a LWF I presume....

You know he isn't exactly Defoe right

lol · Jul 19, 2015

225 said:
Perhaps, but Walker and Lennon have ticked a couple of boxes on that list over their spurs careers.

If Berahino wasn't a young "English" (Burundian) striker, then perhaps the discretions would be given less attention.

Everyone makes mistakes, it's how (or whether) we learn from them that should define us.

exactly. if he was saidogo berahinho SC would be creaming all over him

jedimonkey · Jul 19, 2015

lol said:
exactly. if he was saidogo berahinho SC would be creaming all over him

My only worry is would he want to be back up to Kane. He could play on the left but he is mainly a central striker and would probably want to play there more often than not.

Lilbaz · Jul 19, 2015

jedimonkey said:
My only worry is would he want to be back up to Kane. He could play on the left but he is mainly a central striker and would probably want to play there more often than not.

There will be plenty of games for both to play. We played 56 last season. They will push each other. The one in best form and greatest benefit to the team. Berahino will also be used on the left.

lol · Jul 19, 2015

jedimonkey said:
My only worry is would he want to be back up to Kane. He could play on the left but he is mainly a central striker and would probably want to play there more often than not.

well we have EC games as well so i'm sure he will get his fair share of starting chance. a LW CF rotation of kane, chadli and SB will finally give us a sub that can impact a game. CF kane LW SB, chadli sub, against weaker teams at home SB can push up and become a 442, whoever that is in form will play, be it SB, Chadli or Kane. finally we wouldn't have the worry where are the goals gonna come from the moment kane has an off day. every youngster will hit a drought and had we gotten SB last season, pretty sure we would have be 4th with such a potent scorer coming off the bench instead of Ade or Soldado

allatsea · Jul 19, 2015

Lilbaz said:
Mostly that hecwas arrogant. Got a smack off another player at half time when he lost the ball causing the other team to score. Had some laughing gas and got caught drink driving.

Was voted players player of the year for them last year. So he can't be that much of a twat.

Usual football thing all off field behavior is forgiven or forgotten as long as people believe you perform on the pitch. Thus we have idiots like Suarez getting huge moves despite going round biting everyone.

RJ1882 · Jul 19, 2015

jedimonkey said:
My only worry is would he want to be back up to Kane. He could play on the left but he is mainly a central striker and would probably want to play there more often than not.

Kane very good when he drops deep too so chances are he'll play some games at number 10 when his influence is required around the middle. I'd take Berahino. Exciting potential, a goal scorer, and minimal risk financially. We'll always sell him on again.

faze_coys · Jul 19, 2015

jedimonkey said:
My only worry is would he want to be back up to Kane. He could play on the left but he is mainly a central striker and would probably want to play there more often than not.

Who says he would be back up? He has a very similar skill level to kane and probably a few attributes that are better than kanes. They would be good for each other, very similar in talent but both have different strengths

Lilbaz · Jul 19, 2015

allatsea said:
Usual football thing all off field behavior is forgiven or forgotten as long as people believe you perform on the pitch. Thus we have idiots like Suarez getting huge moves despite going round biting everyone.

He got attacked for losing the ball in a game.

He did some laughing gas which
nearly everyone in the country has done at one time or another.

Yes he was drink driving, which was dangerous and stupid. He has been punished for it.

Remember he is a very young man with wealth and fame thrust upon him. Give him time to grow up and learn from his mistakes. Which by all accounts he is doing.
You should have seen me at that age i was getting into fights every week and banged up. Kids are fucking idiots. But they grow up mostly.

WiganSpur · Jul 19, 2015

The great thing about Berahino is that it would make Kane more dangerous as well since it will either be get exposed by passes in behind to Berahino or if opposition defences drop back to stop it then that leaves space for Kane to do more damage with his shooting.

allatsea · Jul 19, 2015

Lilbaz said:
He got attacked for losing the ball in a game.

He did some laughing gas which
nearly everyone in the country has done at one time or another.

Yes he was drink driving, which was dangerous and stupid. He has been punished for it.

Remember he is a very young man with wealth and fame thrust upon him. Give him time to grow up and learn from his mistakes. Which by all accounts he is doing.
You should have seen me at that age i was getting into fights every week and banged up. Kids are fucking idiots. But they grow up mostly.

Hopefully you are right but we are in the middle of trying to get rid of all our problems. Should we take an expensive chance of bringing in another one ?

jedimonkey · Jul 19, 2015

Agree with everything you've said guys, I meant more would he want to come if he thought he wouldn't be first choice. I think he would be a very good signing if we made it happen.

AAspur · Jul 19, 2015

The issue with SB though is that he isn't used to playing as a lone striker , I think at west boom he played alongside a traditional no 9 and as POch likes to play with one up front I can't really see how he'll fit in unless w ell an to use him as a LWF which isn't his preferred position....seems to me like another case of exhausting other options and making do with what's left on the market...square peg , round hole all over again....

SonicSarr · Jul 19, 2015

Tucker said:
The guys a liability.

BerahiNO

Lilbaz · Jul 19, 2015

allatsea said:
Hopefully you are right but we are in the middle of trying to get rid of all our problems. Should we take an expensive chance of bringing in another one ?

We have 4 of our squad who regularly play with him for the u21's. We will know exactly what he's like.

He also got voted players player of the year at wb last season. They don't vote for you if they hate you no matter how good.

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