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allatsea

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He is one of our most dangerous attackers. Dont understand the vitriol toward him at the end of last season. He was great at the start, got injured then never got a proper go.

What does this 'dangerous attacking' actually achieve though ? Certainly not goals from Townsend and he sets up precious few chances for others.
 

Barry Mead

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He is one of our most dangerous attackers. Dont understand the vitriol toward him at the end of last season. He was great at the start, got injured then never got a proper go.

He had a great start for England, I don't think he had was exactly great for us and the trouble with him towards the end of last season was that he seemed so greedy, wanting to repeat the England thing and seemingly ignoring his team mates

There's one thing struggling after injury quite another constantly wasting attacks by drilling shots everywhere but on goal and regardless of his team mates maybe being in better positions, I'm not sure if it was vitriol or constant frustration
 

TheAmerican

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What does this 'dangerous attacking' actually achieve though ? Certainly not goals from Townsend and he sets up precious few chances for others.
Jay Rodriguez 12/13 - 35 games, 46% shot accuracy, 18 chances created, 6 goals
Jay Rodriguez 13/14 - 33 games, 43% shot accuracy, 20 chances created, 15 goals

Andros Townsend 13/14 - 25 games, 56% shot accuracy, 26 chances created, 1 goal

Rodriguez saw similar stats in his last two seasons, but his goals upped considerably when he played for Pochettino the whole year. I believe Townsend could see a similar increase in production if played consistently this year. Those chances created could become 15+ goals for us. He's capable of it. Everyone squandered chances under AVB, our conversion was among the worst in the league.
 

allatsea

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Jay Rodriguez 12/13 - 35 games, 46% shot accuracy, 18 chances created, 6 goals
Jay Rodriguez 13/14 - 33 games, 43% shot accuracy, 20 chances created, 15 goals

Andros Townsend 13/14 - 25 games, 56% shot accuracy, 26 chances created, 1 goal

Rodriguez saw similar stats in his last two seasons, but his goals upped considerably when he played for Pochettino the whole year. I believe Townsend could see a similar increase in production if played consistently this year. Those chances created could become 15+ goals for us. He's capable of it. Everyone squandered chances under AVB, our conversion was among the worst in the league.

Hope you are proved correct otherwise we may prove to be foolish not to seem him this summer.
 

Gbspurs

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There is little point cashing in on Townsend at this point. If he has a bad season he will go for £8m odd. If he has a standout season he would he worth £20m+. Wages probably aren't overly high either. Hold on for one more season.
 

CornerPinDreamer

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Even more than thay, i am astonished at allthe so called spurs fans in this thread. Like they have no concept of what supporting a club actually means, and how valuable townsend is because of that.

Sure you would sell townsend and swayp him gor depay/remy whoever .

id rather swap you
 

allatsea

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Even more than thay, i am astonished at allthe so called spurs fans in this thread. Like they have no concept of what supporting a club actually means, and how valuable townsend is because of that.

Sure you would sell townsend and swayp him gor depay/remy whoever .

id rather swap you

Laughable. This is a discussion forum. People have differing views to you deal with it. Townsend is not a kid he is what 23 already and has had no end of coaches telling him how he can improve. Still he charges about head down shooting at every opportunity regardless of other players being in better positions. He is exciting to watch but what does he achieve ? Certainly not enough goals.
 

Shanks

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In his defense, he really only started properly last season, and he started on some really good form, which then went into the national side - probably the outstanding performer in those last two qualifiers for England.

Unfortunately, he then spent a lot of time injured, so form/opportunity was very thin on the ground.

I'd say we haven't seen enough of him, so more than happy to give him a chance - he can develop his game, thats for sure. Bale managed to develop his game to something unreal, so it's not impossible for Twonsend to improve areas of his game, and with the right level of coaching/confidence that could be this year.

I'd prefer we kept him, as I do believe he has a lot more to offer.
 

TheAmerican

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In his defense, he really only started properly last season, and he started on some really good form, which then went into the national side - probably the outstanding performer in those last two qualifiers for England.

Unfortunately, he then spent a lot of time injured, so form/opportunity was very thin on the ground.

I'd say we haven't seen enough of him, so more than happy to give him a chance - he can develop his game, thats for sure. Bale managed to develop his game to something unreal, so it's not impossible for Twonsend to improve areas of his game, and with the right level of coaching/confidence that could be this year.

I'd prefer we kept him, as I do believe he has a lot more to offer.
I'm hoping he tears it up tomorrow night against *insert Europa opposition name here*. I would like to see him give Pochettino a reason to start him over Lennon. I think he'd do phenomenal against the QPR 3-5-2 and its slow back 3.
 

Strikeb4ck

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Need to be keeping hold of Rose and Townsend, they are some of the only club trained players (which we need) we have that can play at the highest levels.
 

Mr Pink

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I'm hoping he tears it up tomorrow night against *insert Europa opposition name here*. I would like to see him give Pochettino a reason to start him over Lennon. I think he'd do phenomenal against the QPR 3-5-2 and its slow back 3.

That is good point against QPR. He could well cause them havoc.

I really hope Poch can improve him through good coaching. There is no doubt he has a lot of raw ability but at 23 he needs to start showing much more maturity to his play.
 
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kernowspurscoach1977

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We only need club trained players if they are good enough to get us to top four- rose and Townsend in in my opinion are not good enough. Rose is a liability at LB and may be good enough against bottom 10 teams but is found wanting against better players. Townsend is exactly as every one says. Head down no end product. He is not a real youngster and even when in lower leagues has never really been an automatic starter. His record whilst out on loan is not great. For me for a player to be loaned out to a lower league club, if they are going to be good enough, I would expect then to be one of the first names on the team sheet. Look at Alex Pritchard at the moment - starting, playing well, scoring and dictating play. That is what I would expect from a young premier league player from a team competing for top 4 on loan at a lower league team. Sell Townsend if someone offers 10 mil plus snap their hand off
 

Khilari

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What does this 'dangerous attacking' actually achieve though ? Certainly not goals from Townsend and he sets up precious few chances for others.

I like that he takes on players, creates space and although I agree his shot:goals ratio is just terrible, he clearly adds pace and a more direct attacking approach to our forward play. Where is is weak (knowing when to pass, shoot and make a run) I'd hope Pochettino can work on in training and make improvements to his game like he did with so many players at Soton.

I think he adds more to our attack than Aaron Lennon at present and would rather see him on the left than Chadli with Eriksen in the middle and Lamela on the right.
 

Barry Mead

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Jay Rodriguez 12/13 - 35 games, 46% shot accuracy, 18 chances created, 6 goals
Jay Rodriguez 13/14 - 33 games, 43% shot accuracy, 20 chances created, 15 goals

Andros Townsend 13/14 - 25 games, 56% shot accuracy, 26 chances created, 1 goal

Rodriguez saw similar stats in his last two seasons, but his goals upped considerably when he played for Pochettino the whole year. I believe Townsend could see a similar increase in production if played consistently this year. Those chances created could become 15+ goals for us. He's capable of it. Everyone squandered chances under AVB, our conversion was among the worst in the league.

The thing is Rodriguez scored 15 the season before that, as much as you can suggest Poch made a big difference you can also put adapting to the PL down as a drop down in his goal tally from the previous season and back up again when he became more familiar.

Not trying to take anything away from Poch but it's not unreasonable to suggest that Rodriguez should have shown a better season last season than the previous one regardless of coach as he was more familiar with both the team and the league and also by then was getting more starts and less subbing, whereas initially he was coming on as a sub then maybe playing early periods and then subbed often fairly early till he was more familiar
 

WiganSpur

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Andros has to play against QPR. Dunne was playing LCB and on MNF you could see how uncomfortable he was there. Definite weakness for sure.
 

sloth

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My dark horse prediction is that Andros will be this season's surprise performer, 13 plus goals and a key man by May.
 

michaelden

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Andros has to play against QPR. Dunne was playing LCB and on MNF you could see how uncomfortable he was there. Definite weakness for sure.

Andros never HAS to play. He is a squad member and definitely not one of the first 14 on the sheet
 

michaelden

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I think he adds more to our attack than Aaron Lennon at present and would rather see him on the left than Chadli with Eriksen in the middle and Lamela on the right.

And yet Chadli has more assists and is more of a threat than Townsend. I think you are blinded by his shiny dome and can't see how ineffective a player he is
 
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