The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 18th June 2013
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HappySpur
You Can't Unfry Things Jerri
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My bad. They only have switched something around with the design team. It looks like the assumption that it would lead to delays was wrong as work still seems to be happening. Apologies for any confusion.
or thirdly...baldini is not responsible/has no clue who we are trying to sign?
Misfit
President of The Niles Crane Fanclub
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Even JJ hints at his own doubts tbf, after the whole "AVB is a fraud" codswallop.
Beni
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Hopefully the people feeding this info to him, don't have major influences on the players or staff we sign and just privy to info, otherwise that is worrying if they do.
King of Otters
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Wasn't who I had in mind.
I doubt the mods want us to openly guess JJ's sources though I do think it's probably necessary to understand what motives a certain source may have for saying that AVB is a 'fraud' and that Baldini 'hasn't got a clue about players'.
Misfit
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Quite. JJ mentions that 3 separate sources within the game say the same thing. Which isn't surprising when it comes to the sport of "professional" football. Full of chancers.
am_yisrael_chai
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Deadwood is I'm guessing who you are referring to.
arthurgrimsdell
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They may all be alpha males for whom compromise is a dirty word. but none of them is employed as a technical co-ordinator.
Tim Sherwood is described in the Official Tottenham Hotspur Handbook for 2012-13, which came out in around December 2012, as Head of Football Development. If order of potted biographies counts for anything he is 7th, after AVB, Steffen Freund, Jose Mario Rocha. Luis Martins, Tony Parks and Daniel Sousa. His job description is described as follows: "took on the role of Head of Football Development at the start of this season, having joined us on a full-time coaching basis in April 2010 as Technical Co-ordinator. His responsibilities focus on managing and co-ordinating player development across all our squads, including the supervision and monitoring of loan placements, technical coaching and physical improvement."
It follows from this that he is in no way a technical director in the sense of dealing with the acquisition of players, though he may be on the celebrated but unofficial "transfer committee". His job is to provide future first team stalwarts and develop players even when they are first team squad members but not regulars, like Danny Rose, Tom Carroll, Harry Kane etc, and Naughton and Walker in the past; those players appearing in the first team on occasion, but more often in the under-21's or on loan. it is a player development role. So apart from personality conflicts there should be no reason for TS's nose to be put out of joint by Baldini's arrival.
I accept some ITK's call him DL's right hand man, but frankly I have always taken that with a pinch of salt. I detect an agenda of "bigging up" TS beyond his actual role, for whatever reason. If it is the truth then one wonders why he hasn't been officially promoted again, given Levy's predilection for accurate titles e.g Darren Eales, not Secretary, but "Head of Football Administration", distinguishing him both from the Company Secretary and the Club Secretary, roles filled by different people.
Rogmeister
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TMI
Your just jealous it wasn't you on this occasion!!
Roynie
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Strewth. After the ITK so far today, if I were a depressive I would be tempted to throw myself out of the window. Fortunately I live in a single storey cottage so all I would end up with is hands and knees being severely grazed on the sharp gravel. So, bollox to that, I'll go and get pissed instead! 
EDIT: Shouldn't read this thread whilst recovering from a migrane!
EDIT: Shouldn't read this thread whilst recovering from a migrane!
GetSpurredOn
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If it makes you feel better, my cousin is a Newcastle fan, and they have their 'alleged' DoF conducting his own press conferences about his role to anyone who'll listen, despite the fact the club have yet to confirm or deny any potential appointment.
So on reflection, the news we are getting/not getting, regarding Baldini's involvement/non involvement, suddenly doesn't seem quite as bad does it.
For what it's worth, I read JJ's comment about Baldini having no clue, as the fact he has not actively been involved as yet, or not sufficiently to have any major knowledge over what we have been working on previously.
Secondly, I do wonder of some of these Brazilian press releases are to drum up interest from other clubs, to promote a bidding war. I'd love us to land Paulinho, Bernard and Damaio, but don't really envisage that happening.
So on reflection, the news we are getting/not getting, regarding Baldini's involvement/non involvement, suddenly doesn't seem quite as bad does it.
For what it's worth, I read JJ's comment about Baldini having no clue, as the fact he has not actively been involved as yet, or not sufficiently to have any major knowledge over what we have been working on previously.
Secondly, I do wonder of some of these Brazilian press releases are to drum up interest from other clubs, to promote a bidding war. I'd love us to land Paulinho, Bernard and Damaio, but don't really envisage that happening.
Misfit
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His clarification post makes it clear that the vibe coming from more than one person is simply that Baldini is cack. Not that he isn't up to speed at the club etc.
JJ is passing on what he has so no reflection on him but I'm personally filing this snippet away with the "AVB is a fraud" bollox he was given by similar/same sources last yr.
Lighty64
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donation made due to a bit of bonus work today even if i hate the Gatwick run.
oh well late starting to read this today, will i get through the 27+ pages before i hit the sack, unless someone can warn me quickly that most of the 27 pages to date are mainly off topic
even if i hate the Gatwick run.oh well late starting to read this today, will i get through the 27+ pages before i hit the sack, unless someone can warn me quickly that most of the 27 pages to date are mainly off topic
Sum Monsterism
Looking for an anecdote
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donation made due to a bit of bonus work today
oh well late starting to read this today, will i get through the 27+ pages before i hit the sack, unless someone can warn me quickly that most of the 27 pages to date are mainly off topic
it's mainly bitching. JJ said stuff, no-one really grasped what his meaning was so moaned about it.
Gedson100
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Maybe people's sources change or the sources become less informed.
This time last year we were in the thrall of Akqayid, prior to that others.
At some point it was generally considered that they had good sources; hence the ITK badge, but things do change in the course of time.
Now if we could only get hold of the London Portuguese branch of the Women's Institute: the 'Instituto da Mulher', we could get the in through Andre's missus, maybe.
This time last year we were in the thrall of Akqayid, prior to that others.
At some point it was generally considered that they had good sources; hence the ITK badge, but things do change in the course of time.
Now if we could only get hold of the London Portuguese branch of the Women's Institute: the 'Instituto da Mulher', we could get the in through Andre's missus, maybe.
Beni
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Sorry, on the phone didn't mean to hit disagree.
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