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Why can't we play against ten men?

EnfieldYiddo

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Aug 6, 2012
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From what I can recall this season:

Arsenal, went down to ten, we went 2-1 up and then conceded to make it 2-2 and was hanging on by the end.

Watford: Went down to ten men, had to rely on an offside goal and goal line technology just before that to stop us conceding.

Newcastle: Went down to ten men today and ripped us to shreds, most shameful result in years.

I think Poch goes for broke too soon and throws tactics out the window... We are so easy to play against when you have ten men... Counter rinse and repeat.
 

Syn_13

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Jul 17, 2008
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This has been happening for as long as I can remember. Every time the opposition get a man sent off I actually go into panic mode. We've never been good at taking advantage of a sending off.
 

beats1

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Feb 22, 2010
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From what I can recall this season:

Arsenal, went down to ten, we went 2-1 up and then conceded to make it 2-2 and was hanging on by the end.

Watford: Went down to ten men, had to rely on an offside goal and goal line technology just before that to stop us conceding.

Newcastle: Went down to ten men today and ripped us to shreds, most shameful result in years.

I think Poch goes for broke too soon and throws tactics out the window... We are so easy to play against when you have ten men... Counter rinse and repeat.
I dont about the Newcastle game because I forgot there was a game on today :whistle: but against Arsenal our problem was we started defending deep which we seem to struggle. Also people say we miss dembele and Alli, we have done the same with those guys in the team

Our problem isn't the fact that we need more better players like everyone always demands, which caused to become utter dog shit before

Our issues lie with our mentality, we don't have experience and it shows
 
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Stavrogin

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Apr 17, 2004
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This has been happening for as long as I can remember. Every time the opposition get a man sent off I actually go into panic mode. We've never been good at taking advantage of a sending off.

We've never been good when the onus is on us. Every time we look to be making progress, the pressure is ramped up and because we don't have the same players as bigger teams or the experience to cope, we come unstuck.

'Circumstances' always conspire for teams like Arsenal and against teams like us. It's the same story every season, when is there pressure on Arsenal? When it doesn't really matter. When does the pressure mount on us? When it really matters.

It comes down to our relative positions. Arsenal get put under pressure when they're not on top, whereafter they get a light and breezy attempt at the summit. We have to get on top before they start to put pressure on, and from there we get knocked off.

It's the same dynamic every season. In every situation.
 

ajspurs

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Jul 7, 2007
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To be honest I think we have quite a passive style of play. It's effective, it has to be to be where we we are in the league but it can be overly slow and side to side a lot of the time. We have inside wingers so the middle of the pitch becomes full and we have fullbacks who aren't the best in an offensive or creative sense once in the final third. I just think sometimes we don't help ourselves in that respect and we struggle to up the tempo enough. Basically if a team is down to 10 men they can just fill the position and play with one striker and we still have the same problem, we still pass slow, side to side and over-reliant on everything coming from fullbacks who probably don't create enough (definitely in Walker's case).
 

Syn_13

Fly On, Little Wing
Jul 17, 2008
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We've never been good when the onus is on us. Every time we look to be making progress, the pressure is ramped up and because we don't have the same players as bigger teams or the experience to cope, we come unstuck.

'Circumstances' always conspire for teams like Arsenal and against teams like us. It's the same story every season, when is there pressure on Arsenal? When it doesn't really matter. When does the pressure mount on us? When it really matters.

It comes down to our relative positions. Arsenal get put under pressure when they're not on top, whereafter they get a light and breezy attempt at the summit. We have to get on top before they start to put pressure on, and from there we get knocked off.

It's the same dynamic every season. In every situation.

I agree to an extent. Arsenal buckle under pressure too. They were top of the league at Christmas and every season they seem to blow it. Plenty of Arsenal fans I know see their club as being legends too. However, you are right in that the pressure will always be far greater on us.
 
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