Right now, everyone one of those improves our squad. You telling me tanganga and Rodon are better than white and Gabriel? Is Sanchez better than tomiyasu? Tierney is better than both or left backs, partey is miles better than winks and is a more complete player than hojberg, lacazette is better than Scarlett, martinelli is better than berg, Saka starts over Kulu, odegaard provides us a decent 10 option, esr offers a better rotation option than Moura.
What Our Opponents' Fans Are Saying About Us 21/22
- Thread starter Archibald&Crooks
- Start date
- Status
Joshua shepherd
Well-Known Member
- Jan 31, 2013
- 1,357
- 3,365
Sanchez vs tomiyasu isn’t a like for like comparison though is it. It would be Doherty vs tomiyasu, in which case Doherty suits us far more than tomiyasu would.
That leaves Sanchez to be in the squad ahead of Gabriel, which I would definitely take. Then you’re left with Rodon or tanganga vs white in which case you probably take white.
I agreed with Tierney.
Partey is not the type of player I would want in our squad. He’s a throw back to the ndombele type, not a team player and not a positive influence imo. Obviously he’s a better player than winks but if it was a choice between the two, I’d choose neither.
Lacazette has done nothing this season, I doubt he’s more influential than Scarlett if given a run in the team, the same way nketiah has outperformed lacazette despite never having a run in the team until the last few weeks.
Not sure Saka starts over kulu but he definitely gets into the squad, he’s a great player.
You’re having a laugh if you think martinelli right now is a better player than bergwijn, I’m not even a big fan of bergwijn but I’ve watched arsenal enough this season to know martinelli is not at the required level yet, would take SB all day long.
Odegaard is a great player, as is ESR, of course they get into the squad as I originally said.
If you really think Gabriel is categorically better than Sanchez, martinelli is categorically better than SB, Tomiyasu is categorically better than Doherty and lacazette would be a useful option then you need to watch arsenal more.
Don’t get me wrong we need to improve in a lot of areas, those above don’t do that though.
McFlash
In the corner, eating crayons.
- Oct 19, 2005
- 13,055
- 46,990
You're not really making fair comparisons there and it's really not as simple as saying "Lacazette is better than Scarlett...etc".
Personally, I don't think any of them are bad players, although I may question the mentality of some of them. My point was that although they have some good, young potential it is currently just that, potential.
I think we need to be aiming for higher levels this summer. We need proper first teamers and those that will really push what we currently have.
I'm not sure that the likes of White, Gabriel or Martinelli fit that criteria.
And their more senior players, like Laca and Partey have let themselves down somewhat this season, at a time when they needed the older pros to provide stability and leadership.
DiscoD1882
SC Supporter
- Mar 27, 2006
- 6,999
- 14,924
Are we really comparing squads in the what our opponents fans are saying thread?? Come on!!
hughy
I'm SUPER cereal.
- Nov 18, 2007
- 32,000
- 57,429
All of these highlighted are debatable, but if you asked me honestly which ones I'd rather have in our squad right now it would be Sanchez, Hojbjerg, Deki and Scarlett.
The latter because he's undoubtedly one of the most talented 18 year-olds in England, and the former three because so far they've performed when it matters. The arsenal players, especially Saka, go missing when it's crunch time.
Rogmeister
Well-Known Member
- Jun 14, 2008
- 3,974
- 6,327
Shut the fuck up you minges
mil1lion
This is the place to be
- May 7, 2004
- 42,760
- 78,764
Shut up Aurier
It's a good point. Imagine ESR or Sako under a proper manager. Long live Arteta.
Colonel_Klinck
Well-Known Member
- May 19, 2004
- 12,748
- 23,393
29 mins of new Gooner tears from the NLD ?
Nerine
Juicy corned beef
- Jan 27, 2011
- 4,875
- 17,685
Bluto Blutarsky
Well-Known Member
- Mar 4, 2021
- 15,476
- 71,772
C0YS
Just another member
- Jul 9, 2007
- 12,780
- 13,817
You see, this is where I disagree. Apart from mentality problems they by in large are producing. The players just aren't that good. The only player they have that would undebatebly get into another top 6 starting line up is Teirney and that's frankly it.
Even someone like Saka, who is very good, doesn't actually have the consultancy or even general play which puts him up to the level of a top attacking player in the league. His numbers are improving mind. He's a phenomenal talent, but still largely a talent who has yet to fulfill his undoubted potential. And he's probably their best player.
They are a talented squad, but I actually think they are performing better than their sum of parts this season. That's the thing, player by player I'm not sure they are superior than the likes of Leicester, or even West ham. We would take a lot of their players, for sure, but only two or three would start. Yet they could still pip us for 4th, for me that shows they are far from underperforming.
Colonel_Klinck
Well-Known Member
- May 19, 2004
- 12,748
- 23,393
Yeah some are complete bell ends. Troopz mrs getting in his face with Kane shirt made me laugh. Curits and Lee were level headed.
cjsimba
Well-Known Member
- Dec 5, 2006
- 2,643
- 9,642
I think it really helps build our own team’s new winning mentality when they can look at them lot down the road and see what a mess they are in.
They’re a bit like what we used to be in the past and a stark reminder of what we want to - and are - moving away from under Conte.
They’re a bit like what we used to be in the past and a stark reminder of what we want to - and are - moving away from under Conte.
Nice to see our fan base now overly cocky and deluded. Thought we were better than that.
easley91
Well-Known Member
- Jan 27, 2011
- 19,319
- 55,419
On current form Kulu starts over Saka.
I’ve watched arsenal a lot this year, I regularly have to go to arsenal and Chelsea games with work.
Martinelli is class but I guess you know more than Juergen Klopp right?
I watched arsenal when they had their full first 11 out for a long run of games when they won 9 in a row and were playing very well then the injuries set in.
we are going to scrape past them into 4th yet now our fan base think they’re all crap players all of sudden.
Yes maybe but only because Saka has been run into the ground and is playing injured.
The Scarecrow
Well-Known Member
- Jan 17, 2013
- 5,603
- 12,225
Deluded? Saka has 172 minutes per goal contribution this season. Kulusevski 109. And that's as a young player in a new league. Saka is great, but he's not better than Kulusevski, and there is no way he would start consistently over Kulusevski if they were in the same team.
Stats don't tell it all, of course, but Kulusevski fits our team and the way we play to perfection.
- Status
