Tottenham Takeover Talk

[jimbo]

I certainly wouldn't welcome it, but there's also very little I could do about it if it happened - and I still don't think it will in the end.

The biggest issue for me is that of LGBTQ+ rights, gay men have it bad in Qatar, worse if they're also Muslim, and the treatment of the Trans community is even worse. Would further exposure to a more liberal culture lead to change? Almost certainly not.

So, what could I do about it? Boycott any of the Qatari linked sponsorships, easy. Up my charitable giving to related causes, certainly. That seems to be about it. I'm certainly not going to let them drive me out of my club, because I was here first, and will be here after if I live long enough.

 

[arunspurs]

The £1bn would be to purchase a stake in the club from Enic, therefore surely the £1bn goes to Enic.

Yes, one billion goes to ENIC/Lewis given they are current shareholders. We need to see from whom this stake goes from Levy or Lewis holdings....if story is true.

But if you are QSI, you dont pay for 25% stake for it to sit in ENIC's pocket.

I am sure there is a roadmap for QSI to grow their stake and be the majority at some point. I see this 25% as strategic buys. Every business QSI has invested till now have grown. Oct 2022 - they bought 22% stake in SC Braga. So, lets see this Jan & summer, how Braga does in transfer

 

[Trix]

As a foreign supporter, the way the Club was run was what caught my interest, which led to my love for Spurs. I rather wait 20 more years for a trophy doing it without Quatari money than take the dirty economic shortcut.

Of course, I will still support the Club whatever happens, but it will feel "less" when we finally achieve something.

As someone who has supported us long enough to know what it's like to win things, trust me when I say it won't. You won't give it a second thought when it happens. It may give you less of a bragging standpoint post win, but it won't feel cheapened at all if/when it happens.

ive spent the last 48 hours or so trying to find as much out about this and QSI as I can and Whilst I'd prefer it to be someone else I'm actually coming to terms with it tbh.

 

[JOLLHURN]

I couldn't give a monkeys where the money comes from tbh. Football has been morally/ethically dead for decades.

 

[arthurgrimsdell]

The £1bn would be to purchase a stake in the club from Enic, therefore surely the £1bn goes to Enic.

Would it? Or would it be an investment in new shares? ENIC themselves invested in new share capital only last summer. It becomes a little arithmetically complicated if it's merely QSI buying ENIC shares, because they don't own 100% of Totteham Hotspur Ltd shares, merely about 87%. QSI would have to buy a larger percentage of ENIC's holding to make it 25% of the total. It sounds like new capital to me, but time will tell.

 

[The Scarecrow]

I won't welcome it. But I also won't burn my Spurs shirts if it happens. I'm pretty numb to the whole thing, to be honest, and as much as I'd love for us to take that final step the right way, I've come to terms with that not happening. Football is evolving, sadly, and there's no way back, so I'm just going to enjoy the ride as much as I can whatever happens.

 

[Tucker]

Yes. For the ones saying no - what would be your reaction if these rumours were for arsenal or west ham?

If this was Arsenal or West Ham we’d all be saying how repulsive it is and how pathetic their fans were for bending over and taking it. There’d be reams and reams of quotes from KUMB and Arsemania being ridiculed for the way they’re bending over backwards to try and justify taking dirty blood money.

But we don’t have to imagine what our reaction would be to this kind of dirty money washing through football. It’s all here on the forum in black and white. Go check out the Newcastle, City, or Chelsea threads. It’s almost exactly as I described above.

 

[HodisGawd]

No, I wouldn't welcome it.

I want to support a football club.

 

[srups34]

Bring it on. If it means Harry Kane finished his career here with a few trophies then I'm all in.

 

[arunspurs]

If this was Arsenal or West Ham we’d all be saying how repulsive it is and how pathetic their fans were for bending over and taking it. There’d be reams and reams of quotes from KUMB and Arsemania being ridiculed for the way they’re bending over backwards to try and justify taking dirty blood money.

But we don’t have to imagine what our reaction would be to this kind of dirty money washing through football. It’s all here on the forum in black and white. Go check out the Newcastle, City, or Chelsea threads. It’s almost exactly as I described above.

Yet, if you go these forums now, moaning would not be there and most if not all moved on

 

[Tucker]

Yet, if you go these forums now, moaning would not be there and most if not all moved on

You’re misunderstanding my point. I’m not saying City, Newcastle and Chelsea fans are all unhappy. I’m saying we’d be taking the piss out of them for making excuses for the immoral source of their success.

Besides you don’t think the lack of dissenting voices on their forums might be because those who were disgusted by it simply moved on from the club/football altogether?

 

[Stuart Leathercock]

'Welcome' - not really.
'Accept' - yes.

 

[arunspurs]

You’re misunderstanding my point. I’m not saying City, Newcastle and Chelsea fans are all unhappy. I’m saying we’d be taking the piss out of them for making excuses for the immoral source of their success.

Besides you don’t think the lack of dissenting voices on their forums might be because those who were disgusted by it simply moved on from the club/football altogether?

Or they moved on from complaining & basking in the glory.
Ofcourse, we would be talking the piss off fans who got questionable investment - thats human nature.
All I would say is, if Qatar's take over us, we wont be the first and we wont be the last. People move on living within the system. Number of people, who actually stop following their clubs and stop watching football is minuscule .

 

[RuskyM]

Couldn't give a shit about trophies if it comes from blood money.

 

[Nilsp]

No
No
No

and

No

 

[WiganSpur]

Do I want Qatar investment near us? No. Perhaps there's a geopolitical argument to be made for limiting any stake to 25%, but if they are going to invest then i'd rather they just bought the whole thing. Levy in bed with Qatar is the worst of both worlds. DL is delusional enough to think that the problem on the pitch is a lack of cash rather than his own meddling in affairs.

 

[Tucker]

One thing that I’ve not seen anyone mention yet is the fact that we’d essentially be PSGs bitch. All the quotes so far suggest that QSI want a multi club model in a similar way to City group.

The other clubs in that group are essentially feeder clubs.

That should also be a concern.

 

[arunspurs]

Do I want Qatar investment near us? No. Perhaps there's a geopolitical argument to be made for limiting any stake to 25%, but if they are going to invest then i'd rather they just bought the whole thing. Levy in bed with Qatar is the worst of both worlds. DL is delusional enough to think that the problem on the pitch is a lack of cash rather than his own meddling in affairs.

Buying minority stake is usually the way to buy the whole thing. It avoids risk and helps the investors to put the money when they can or have the opportunity. I am convinced , if they buy a minority stake, its because they see a pathway to majority stake at some point in future.

 

[WiganSpur]

Clubs who win things? Don’t get me wrong I love the fact we have a ‘soul’ but we are not doing anything in terms of achievement by continuing on this route. Unlike the others we have a history so we wouldn’t lose our ‘souls’ by having a cash injection to keep up with the big boys

Why can't we be like Liverpool or even Arsenal atm? We can be taken over without blood money at least.

 

[Tonio]

It’s a yes from me. The romantic idea of what we all think football should be or once was has long gone and will never return. It’s naive to think it will. Money was always going to rule the roost.
As far as my morals go, well I don’t let the issues there occupy my thoughts. I’m able to use my iPhone knowing full well what goes on in the factories that make them. People having died on the job there or committing suicide as a result of poor treatment. Yes both have happened and No it’s not directly comparable of course but where do people draw their moral line in the sand? People can virtue signal till the cows come home but unless you’re actually willing to do something about it aside from screaming blue murder then that’s all it is. If on the other hand you’re going to step away or give back your season ticket or stand outside the ground to protest it then fair fucks to you.