The Spurs Transfer Wishlist & Scouting Thread

[Ossie85]

It sure ain't so easy though to "calculate" the progression of young players. I remember back in 2014 that many on SC- yes, including me - were eagerly hoping that Spurs would beat off competition to sign Alen Halilovic and Tim Jedvaj - both seen as future stars, particularly Halilovic. But Spurs lost out on both players - and dodged 2 bullets it seem.
Jedvaj is a rarely used sub at Leverkusen while Halilovic is loand out (by Milan) to Standard Liege with an option to buy; where he's only played 7 games so far this season (0 goals).
Also, it created a bit of a commotion among Spurs fans when Reece Oxford made his PL debut back in 2015 and we got to know he'd been at the Spurs academy (until he was 13). He was even called up to train with the England squad at 16 and people were sure a future star was in the making. Now he's a regular sub at Augsburg, rarely even getting games off the bench.
All 3 are still fairly young but it shows that the brightest young talents aren't always the ones who shine the brightest at the big stage season after season...

I disagree on this. With players that young, proper coaching is very important. Who's to say they wouldn't have progressed well if we bought them.
If Alli would've signed for United managed by Mourinho, would he be the same player he is today? I highly doubt it

 

[Dharmabum]

I disagree on this. With players that young, proper coaching is very important. Who's to say they wouldn't have progressed well if we bought them.
If Alli would've signed for United managed by Mourinho, would he be the same player he is today? I highly doubt it

With that logic, why haven't players like Aurier, KWP, CCV, Onomah, Edwards, Janssen been doing much better at Spurs? Why have Dier stagnated this season? They should all be world beaters by now then.
You really believe that the Spurs coaches (on any leverl) can coach every talent in the world to become top-notch players?
Not every player can be coached into becoming become top-notch player just because they were excellent youth prospects. Not even at Spurs.

Besides, Halilovic went to Barca and Jedvaj went to Leverkusen - both clubs have a better reputation than Spurs when it comes to deveoping young talents; particularly Barca, which - together with Ajax - is by far the most successful club in Europe in that regard for the last 2 decades (well Ajax for the last 5 decades). But even at those 2 clubs many excellent youth talents never make it.

By using Jose as an example you choose one the worst examples though: he's a manager who's known for rarely playing - and developing - young talent as he prefers clubs that throws money at any player he likes. Barca and Leverkusen did not have Jose at their club (well, not totally true when it comes to Barca as Jose had a short stint there as an assistant coach under Bobby Robson and van Gaal - but they always by-passed him when it came to hiring him as head coach).

 

[bubble07]

Full backs are the priority. Very envious of liverpool's full backs. They make a massive difference to how they play.

 

[Dharmabum]

Full backs are the priority. Very envious of liverpool's full backs. They make a massive difference to how they play.

It make does annoy me though that Robertson was mentioned on SC by several as a LB Spurs should be after before he joined Liverpool (same goes for van Dijk but Spurs had/have Toby and Jan then so it's a bit different)...and then he turns out to be the arguably the best LB in the EPL this season.
A mentally and physically fit Rose would have been one of the top LB in the PL...but ,well fact is he isn't..

 

[archiewasking]

It make does annoy me though that Robertson was mentioned on SC by several as a LB Spurs should be after before he joined Liverpool (same goes for van Dijk but Spurs had/have Toby and Jan then so it's a bit different)...and then he turns out to be the arguably the best LB in the EPL this season.
A mentally and physically fit Rose would have been one of the top LB in the PL...but ,well fact is he isn't..

Robertson is great. But Danny's getting back towards his best. And his hunger and commitment is there for all to see. I still think he's in the top 3.

 

[bubble07]

Robertson is great. But Danny's getting back towards his best. And his hunger and commitment is there for all to see. I still think he's in the top 3.

He is definitely getting back to his best. But when you compare both of their crosses its bot even close

 

[SugarRay]

That they are, but there’s more players who have got a big contract and lose their way. Be it players at the top end of the game or youngsters getting their first big pay day.

It’s got to affect the mentality in some way or other

It’ll affect those with the weak mentality I agree. Thing is, even championship players are multimillionaire’s with enough money to last a few lifetimes. Every decent pro could get lost in the hype/money. Isn’t the average wage of a premier league player at a decent club over £50k a week?

 

[LeParisien]

It make does annoy me though that Robertson was mentioned on SC by several as a LB Spurs should be after before he joined Liverpool (same goes for van Dijk but Spurs had/have Toby and Jan then so it's a bit different)...and then he turns out to be the arguably the best LB in the EPL this season.
A mentally and physically fit Rose would have been one of the top LB in the PL...but ,well fact is he isn't..

Im sure there were plenty of detractors. Bought for €9m from a team that got relegated - fewer goals and assists than eg Sessegnon... there would be so many here saying he is not the player to take us to the next level. I remember the widespread dérision of Grealish last summer.

They were wrong and I wonder how many people will have the self-awareness to reflect that carefully chosen targets from significantly weaker teams could improve us ...

 

[daryl hannah]

Robertson is great. But Danny's getting back towards his best. And his hunger and commitment is there for all to see. I still think he's in the top 3.

For me, the main difference lies in their respective abilities to put in a decent ball. If Rose had Trippier's crossing ability you'd have one hell of a full back. Robertson has end product as well as the defensive side of his game.

I think when people say they think the full backs need upgrading, the end product is mainly what they're talking about - And whilst in Tripps' case it is the defensive side that needs the upgrade, at RWB we were saying it about Walker for a long time, and now Aurier. Consistency in ability is what I'd like to see in the position.

 

[archiewasking]

I agree, but part of the problem is that Liverpool tend to play with 3 up top, so there's more chance that someone gets on the end of it. We rarely do. More targets, more chance of goals.

 

[Shadydan]

I agree, but part of the problem is that Liverpool tend to play with 3 up top, so there's more chance that someone gets on the end of it. We rarely do. More targets, more chance of goals.

The average positions aren't much different, our full backs just cannot cross for shit.

 

[archiewasking]

The average positions aren't much different, our full backs just cannot cross for shit.

I think Tripps needs to get the ball played ahead of him to run on to. So he actually crosses the thing instead of stopping and playing it back, which absolutely infuriates me.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Had a bit of a scour around for, ummm, gossip..

Spurs are in the race to sign Sporting CP's Portugal midfielder Bruno Fernandes, reports A Bola.


Aston Villa are expected to lose Tottenham Hotspur target Jack Grealish if they fail to secure promotion and would want £35m for the 23-year-old attacking midfielder. (Daily Mail)


And this is truly exciting........ Honest.


Tottenham Hotspur are among the clubs interested in signing £1.3million-rated Nigerian youngster Chikezie Miracle Nwaorisa, who plays for Latvian outfit Spartaks Virsliga. (Calciomercato).

 

[Dharmabum]

Had a bit of a scour around for, ummm, gossip..

Spurs are in the race to sign Sporting CP's Portugal midfielder Bruno Fernandes, reports A Bola.


Aston Villa are expected to lose Tottenham Hotspur target Jack Grealish if they fail to secure promotion and would want £35m for the 23-year-old attacking midfielder. (Daily Mail)


And this is truly exciting........ Honest.


Tottenham Hotspur are among the clubs interested in signing £1.3million-rated Nigerian youngster Chikezie Miracle Nwaorisa, who plays for Latvian outfit Spartaks Virsliga. (Calciomercato).

Some will say it'll have to take mircale to happen for Levy to sign any new players

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Some will say it'll have to take mircale to happen for Levy to sign any new players

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Had a bit of a scour around for, ummm, gossip..

Spurs are in the race to sign Sporting CP's Portugal midfielder Bruno Fernandes, reports A Bola.


Aston Villa are expected to lose Tottenham Hotspur target Jack Grealish if they fail to secure promotion and would want £35m for the 23-year-old attacking midfielder. (Daily Mail)


And this is truly exciting........ Honest.


Tottenham Hotspur are among the clubs interested in signing £1.3million-rated Nigerian youngster Chikezie Miracle Nwaorisa, who plays for Latvian outfit Spartaks Virsliga. (Calciomercato).

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Considering our options

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Considering our options

Never thought of that. Lessons have been learned.

 

[spursfan77]

I disagree on this. With players that young, proper coaching is very important. Who's to say they wouldn't have progressed well if we bought them.
If Alli would've signed for United managed by Mourinho, would he be the same player he is today? I highly doubt it

I’m not sure, Dele is a once in a generation kind of a player. I think he’d be a success wherever he went.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

I’m not sure, Dele is a once in a generation kind of a player. I think he’d be a success wherever he went.

Not without playing, though. And Mourinho really didn't seem overly keen on his talented youngsters?

 

[ardiles]

I was about to list a number of players to prove you wrong, but I’m struggling here...

Lame—-gba?

Zola