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wrd

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Sessegnon for me depends on whether he wants to be a fullback or not, I'd love him as a fullback but a little uncertain on the winger department because we have Son who tends to play Left and Dele tends to play in that space also.
 

LeParisien

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Here’s my periodic reminder that Ndombele is not a realistic option for us.

Spurs do not offer anything Lyon can’t. There is no reason for him to move to us unless he is a closet spurs fan. He will develop well at Lyon in a league where hell play let’s of games. It won’t inhibit his chances of being selected for France. He’ll play CL football every season and Lyon will get closer to the title every year.

When he does go, the biggest teams in the world will want him. PSG will be one of the first in line and Tuchel has repeatedly said he admires him. We’re not going to compete on prestige, trophies or money with the other clubs that will want him.

In terms of the financials, Lyon owe Amiens 20% sell on fee so whatever fee you thought he could go for, Aulas will try to extract that added 25%.

Would he improve us? Absolutely. But the time was last season.

See you in May for an identical post.
 

cider spurs

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Here’s my periodic reminder that Ndombele is not a realistic option for us.

Spurs do not offer anything Lyon can’t. There is no reason for him to move to us unless he is a closet spurs fan. He will develop well at Lyon in a league where hell play let’s of games. It won’t inhibit his chances of being selected for France. He’ll play CL football every season and Lyon will get closer to the title every year.

When he does go, the biggest teams in the world will want him. PSG will be one of the first in line and Tuchel has repeatedly said he admires him. We’re not going to compete on prestige, trophies or money with the other clubs that will want him.

In terms of the financials, Lyon owe Amiens 20% sell on fee so whatever fee you thought he could go for, Aulas will try to extract that added 25%.

Would he improve us? Absolutely. But the time was last season.

See you in May for an identical post.


Hope you burn yer' toast. (n):cry::(
 

Japhet

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Here’s my periodic reminder that Ndombele is not a realistic option for us.

Spurs do not offer anything Lyon can’t. There is no reason for him to move to us unless he is a closet spurs fan. He will develop well at Lyon in a league where hell play let’s of games. It won’t inhibit his chances of being selected for France. He’ll play CL football every season and Lyon will get closer to the title every year.

When he does go, the biggest teams in the world will want him. PSG will be one of the first in line and Tuchel has repeatedly said he admires him. We’re not going to compete on prestige, trophies or money with the other clubs that will want him.

In terms of the financials, Lyon owe Amiens 20% sell on fee so whatever fee you thought he could go for, Aulas will try to extract that added 25%.

Would he improve us? Absolutely. But the time was last season.

See you in May for an identical post.


If anything, I'd say Lyon is probably a more vibrant City than London and their stadium and facilities are better than ours.;)
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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Here’s my periodic reminder that Ndombele is not a realistic option for us.

Spurs do not offer anything Lyon can’t. There is no reason for him to move to us unless he is a closet spurs fan. He will develop well at Lyon in a league where hell play let’s of games. It won’t inhibit his chances of being selected for France. He’ll play CL football every season and Lyon will get closer to the title every year.

When he does go, the biggest teams in the world will want him. PSG will be one of the first in line and Tuchel has repeatedly said he admires him. We’re not going to compete on prestige, trophies or money with the other clubs that will want him.

In terms of the financials, Lyon owe Amiens 20% sell on fee so whatever fee you thought he could go for, Aulas will try to extract that added 25%.

Would he improve us? Absolutely. But the time was last season.

See you in May for an identical post.
Spurs don't offer anything that Lyon can't? Not being funny but we certainly do offer something a little better to his current gig.

I frequently watch Ligue 1 games and the majority are pretty boring and have limited challenges in them. Sure it has certain qualities but if it wasn't for PSG the league would hold no value in the eyes of most supporters globally.

The prestige of the Premier League, the competitiveness, the financial gains not only as a wage but brand wise for players is a big pull. Tottenham Hotspur are a far bigger team historically than Lyon, it's definitely a step up in his career albeit maybe not a big enough one for him to take a shot at. He could well wait for a bigger offer but I don't think for a minute we are a sideway step, not by a long chalk
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Here’s my periodic reminder that Ndombele is not a realistic option for us.

Spurs do not offer anything Lyon can’t. There is no reason for him to move to us unless he is a closet spurs fan. He will develop well at Lyon in a league where hell play let’s of games. It won’t inhibit his chances of being selected for France. He’ll play CL football every season and Lyon will get closer to the title every year.

When he does go, the biggest teams in the world will want him. PSG will be one of the first in line and Tuchel has repeatedly said he admires him. We’re not going to compete on prestige, trophies or money with the other clubs that will want him.

In terms of the financials, Lyon owe Amiens 20% sell on fee so whatever fee you thought he could go for, Aulas will try to extract that added 25%.

Would he improve us? Absolutely. But the time was last season.

See you in May for an identical post.

Aulas has already said he is likely to be sold this summer and the best offers have come from the prem. Yes, he might well mean Man City but we are clearly interested so I wouldn’t count us out.
 

wrd

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Here’s my periodic reminder that Ndombele is not a realistic option for us.

Spurs do not offer anything Lyon can’t. There is no reason for him to move to us unless he is a closet spurs fan. He will develop well at Lyon in a league where hell play let’s of games. It won’t inhibit his chances of being selected for France. He’ll play CL football every season and Lyon will get closer to the title every year.

When he does go, the biggest teams in the world will want him. PSG will be one of the first in line and Tuchel has repeatedly said he admires him. We’re not going to compete on prestige, trophies or money with the other clubs that will want him.

In terms of the financials, Lyon owe Amiens 20% sell on fee so whatever fee you thought he could go for, Aulas will try to extract that added 25%.

Would he improve us? Absolutely. But the time was last season.

See you in May for an identical post.

I agree with some of what you said but to say Spurs don't offer anything Lyon can't I think is incorrect. Ligue 1 is not highly though of compared to the prem, people dream of playing in this league and we are (hopefully) one of the few teams that can offer Prem and Champions League football. I also imagine we can offer more in wages certainly now. We also now have world class facilities which are unrivalled for player experience. However I agree that he will develop well and likely get a toptop team if he stays put but fingers crossed anyhow.
 

cider spurs

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Max Aarons playing a blinder yet again for Norwich.

Currently live on Sky 401.

Would be more than happy with both of their fullbacks.
 

LeParisien

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If anything, I'd say Lyon is probably a more vibrant City than London and their stadium and facilities are better than ours.;)
Spurs don't offer anything that Lyon can't? Not being funny but we certainly do offer something a little better to his current gig.

I frequently watch Ligue 1 games and the majority are pretty boring and have limited challenges in them. Sure it has certain qualities but if it wasn't for PSG the league would hold no value in the eyes of most supporters globally.

The prestige of the Premier League, the competitiveness, the financial gains not only as a wage but brand wise for players is a big pull. Tottenham Hotspur are a far bigger team historically than Lyon, it's definitely a step up in his career albeit maybe not a big enough one for him to take a shot at. He could well wait for a bigger offer but I don't think for a minute we are a sideway step, not by a long chalk
Aulas has already said he is likely to be sold this summer and the best offers have come from the prem. Yes, he might well mean Man City but we are clearly interested so I wouldn’t count us out.
I agree with some of what you said but to say Spurs don't offer anything Lyon can't I think is incorrect. Ligue 1 is not highly though of compared to the prem, people dream of playing in this league and we are (hopefully) one of the few teams that can offer Prem and Champions League football. I also imagine we can offer more in wages certainly now. We also now have world class facilities which are unrivalled for player experience. However I agree that he will develop well and likely get a toptop team if he stays put but fingers crossed anyhow.
I’ll try to reply to you all in one...

- Lyon is an hour from the south of France and from the mountains. The region has (arguably) the best food in the world. The quality of life in Lyon is higher than it is in London.

- The EPL is a top destination and Ligue 1 is not as strong or prestigious but remember that the strength of your feeling is impacted by your Britishness. Tanguy is french and so he won’t be as starry eyed. He will want to win trophies and earn a shitload of money doing so. His next move can and probably will be to a super club who can offer him both. We can offer him neither with the level of certainty others can (sorry !!).

- in any case both points are answered by PSG coming in for him. Playing in Paris (not a bad city HUH) for a team that competes in every competition and can pay serious cash - what have we got on that ? World class facilities for sure - but careers are short and a well-advised player will prioritise success.

The truth is that spurs from abroad are seen as a fantastic club to develop at. Poch will play the youth (remember that de Jong interview?). But if you’re at a club like Lyon and the big clubs are interested ... spurs do not hold that much appeal.

I feel like a traitor saying these things but once you see outside the spurs bubble...it’s true. I would love to be wrong but we will see come the summer !
 

Dzejkob

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Here’s my periodic reminder that Ndombele is not a realistic option for us.

Spurs do not offer anything Lyon can’t. There is no reason for him to move to us unless he is a closet spurs fan. He will develop well at Lyon in a league where hell play let’s of games. It won’t inhibit his chances of being selected for France. He’ll play CL football every season and Lyon will get closer to the title every year.

When he does go, the biggest teams in the world will want him. PSG will be one of the first in line and Tuchel has repeatedly said he admires him. We’re not going to compete on prestige, trophies or money with the other clubs that will want him.

In terms of the financials, Lyon owe Amiens 20% sell on fee so whatever fee you thought he could go for, Aulas will try to extract that added 25%.

Would he improve us? Absolutely. But the time was last season.

See you in May for an identical post.
I'm pretty sure we can offer him much more money than Lyon. Sure not as much as PSG, City, Real etc but much more than he currently earns at Lyon.

If those club are not so much interested or think 60-70 is too much for him and they have different priorities I guess we have a chance of signing him. I mean he may be happy to join us. Are we happy to spend 60-70mln on him is of course different story...
 

LeParisien

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I'm pretty sure we can offer him much more money than Lyon. Sure not as much as PSG, City, Real etc but much more than he currently earns at Lyon.

If those club are not so much interested or think 60-70 is too much for him and they have different priorities I guess we have a chance of signing him. I mean he may be happy to join us. Are we happy to spend 60-70mln on him is of course different story...
If big clubs weren’t interested... if PSG werent aggressivey pursuing him... if Guardiola hadn’t said he was a fan and Juventus werent monitoring him... then I wouldn’t be saying these things. I’d be saying that if we went all in for him then we could get him.
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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I’ll try to reply to you all in one...

- Lyon is an hour from the south of France and from the mountains. The region has (arguably) the best food in the world. The quality of life in Lyon is higher than it is in London.

- The EPL is a top destination and Ligue 1 is not as strong or prestigious but remember that the strength of your feeling is impacted by your Britishness. Tanguy is french and so he won’t be as starry eyed. He will want to win trophies and earn a shitload of money doing so. His next move can and probably will be to a super club who can offer him both. We can offer him neither with the level of certainty others can (sorry !!).

- in any case both points are answered by PSG coming in for him. Playing in Paris (not a bad city HUH) for a team that competes in every competition and can pay serious cash - what have we got on that ? World class facilities for sure - but careers are short and a well-advised player will prioritise success.

The truth is that spurs from abroad are seen as a fantastic club to develop at. Poch will play the youth (remember that de Jong interview?). But if you’re at a club like Lyon and the big clubs are interested ... spurs do not hold that much appeal.

I feel like a traitor saying these things but once you see outside the spurs bubble...it’s true. I would love to be wrong but we will see come the summer !

Granted, I agree with many of the things you say but your argument was that we don't offer more than Lyon can which I don't agree with.

You make good points about Lyon.as a destination but isn't London the 6th most populated French citizen city? It was when I read something a couple of years back so the Britishness bias isn't as exaggerated as you make a valid point about in my opinion. A different way of life yes but equally appealing based on ones preference of course.

You also use PSG or mega clubs as a way to say we aren't as appealing. I agree we aren't as appealing as a Bayern Munich, Real Madrid:-[, Barcelona etc but N'dombele isn't playing for those guys at the moment, he plays for Lyon and your initial argument was that Spurs don't offer anything better than Lyon does, which I personally think they do.

If a bigger club comes in for him of course it's a bigger lure but Tottenham Hotspur as a football club I think are a level higher than Lyon if you weigh up all of the positives and negatives. If it's a big enough step for him is a different matter altogether
 

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I’ll try to reply to you all in one...

- Lyon is an hour from the south of France and from the mountains. The region has (arguably) the best food in the world. The quality of life in Lyon is higher than it is in London.

- The EPL is a top destination and Ligue 1 is not as strong or prestigious but remember that the strength of your feeling is impacted by your Britishness. Tanguy is french and so he won’t be as starry eyed. He will want to win trophies and earn a shitload of money doing so. His next move can and probably will be to a super club who can offer him both. We can offer him neither with the level of certainty others can (sorry !!).

- in any case both points are answered by PSG coming in for him. Playing in Paris (not a bad city HUH) for a team that competes in every competition and can pay serious cash - what have we got on that ? World class facilities for sure - but careers are short and a well-advised player will prioritise success.

The truth is that spurs from abroad are seen as a fantastic club to develop at. Poch will play the youth (remember that de Jong interview?). But if you’re at a club like Lyon and the big clubs are interested ... spurs do not hold that much appeal.

I feel like a traitor saying these things but once you see outside the spurs bubble...it’s true. I would love to be wrong but we will see come the summer !

With all due respect, the food in Lyon is vastly overrated. I ordered bangers and mash and got stuffed pig anus with potatoes. And I’m pretty sure it was stuffed with faeces.

N’Dombele wants to come to Tottenham to escape such traps and sample the delicacies of Chick King.
 

Bulletspur

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For me the players definitely talented enough to be in our squad are:

Lloris (got to cut out the mistakes though but he clearly has the talent)
Rose
Alderweireld
Vertonghen
Sanchez
Foyth
Dier
Winks
Dele
Eriksen
Lucas
Kane

Possibly being very harsh on Davies & Sissoko but they are steady players, not powerhouses in the game. For me the above listed 12 players are the most i portent nucleus to the team quality wise. The only thing we lack from that group to play a settled starting XI that knows each others games whilst others integrate into the squad is a starting XI right back.

Upheaval can be a bad thing but with he core first team staying pretty much exactly the same I don't necessarily think peripheral squad upheaval in this case would be a bad thing. Fresh blood, instill a little urgency into the first XI for their squad places etc.

Can anyone realistically say that if we lost the likes of Vorm, Trippier, Aurier, Davies, Wanyama, Nkoudou, Lamela, Janssen & Llorente that it would serious damage our playing style to the point where the risk isn't worth taking? Add Sissoko into the mix who is a great squad player but that's all he should be and you've got 10 potential exits that really are 2nd string based on ability compared to our top dogs in the current ranks
I think your views lacked credibility when you included Dier and omitted Sissoko. Dier for me is a spent source who will only get back in in dire circumstances. I don't that Southgate will be even including him in any future England set up. Onions and all that
 

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He might want to win cups, but let's be realistic here, PSG have won 5 out of the last 6 Ligue 1 titles, and currently 20 points clear after 30 games this season another title looks in the bag.

Is that really challenging yourself as a footballer. Premier league can see any given team beat another week on week regardless of stature.

Not forgetting that the English game is different in style with many foreign players saying as much.

I'm sure Paris is nice, and he'd get paid handsomely, but that's where the lure would stop for me, just so one sided with all the wedge PSG possess is it really a surprise or remarkable feat when they win the League.

I suggest not.
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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I think your views lacked credibility when you included Dier and omitted Sissoko. Dier for me is a spent source who will only get back in in dire circumstances. I don't that Southgate will be even including him in any future England set up. Onions and all that

I added Dier ahead of Sissoko based on three reasons.

Firstly his versatility to help out in defence gives us a flexibility that very few offer. Secondly his HG status which I got incorrect as I've just remembered that the insane rule means that a kid from Cheltenham can't be classed as HG as he did his initial football education in Lisbon so that ones scrapped. Thirdly I look at our defensive record this year and how many games Dier has missed and it's made me question his importance to our teams resoluteness. Eric has missed 20+ games this season and we've conceded 19-20 goals in the last 15 minutes of games which has cost us some serious points.

Sissoko has been a great player for us this season, and whilst I'm not Diers biggest fan he is still young, and we do seem to get better results with him in the team as opposed to when he's missing.

His price needs to be recognised as well. The guy cost £4m whilst Sissoko cost £30m. Dier has been a very good signing and I'm valuing him more seeing our results without him this season.
 

LeParisien

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You make good points about Lyon.as a destination but isn't London the 6th most populated French citizen city?
It’s a great fact and true. But it’s because the french population is dispersed over a wider area and more towns and villages. Lyon is France’s 3rd city with just over 500,000 but in the uk it would be #13.

British towns take more people !
 

THFCSPURS19

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Yussuf Poulsen. Tall, quick, strong. High/High workrates. Scored 18 goals this season for Leipzig (more than Werner).
 
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