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The Poch has been confirmed as manager thread!
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thinktank
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I was gonna do something but couldn't be bothered; glad someone did though.
Yid
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Hey brother, you seem to be one of the most knowledgeable on here in terms of Poch's football philosophy, and his general approach to the game, etc.
Could I superimpose on you by requesting that you write up a few paragraphs (or however you want to do it) pertaining to Poch, and depicting his management style, tactical approach, etc? I've read up on some stuff online (don't consider myself to be an expert by any means),
If not, then perhaps you could point me to a good source either online or here at SC?
Would be appreciated, thanks!
thinktank
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http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2011/jan/17/espanyol-la-liga-sid-loweHey brother, you seem to be one of the most knowledgeable on here in terms of Poch's football philosophy, and his general approach to the game, etc.
Could I superimpose on you by requesting that you write up a few paragraphs (or however you want to do it) pertaining to Poch, and depicting his management style, tactical approach, etc? I've read up on some stuff online (don't consider myself to be an expert by any means),but would like to hear it from you ((since you seem to be the most passionate about him, etc)).
If not, then perhaps you could point me to a good source either online or here at SC?
Would be appreciated, thanks!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21084201
http://www.theguardian.com/football...ttino-saints-southampton-tottenham?CMP=twt_gu
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/pochettino-channels-bielsa-take-game-manchester-united
http://cartilagefreecaptain.sbnatio...uricio-pochettino-tottenham-hotspur-interview
http://talksport.com/football/exclu...-spurs-legend-14051891706#svgGKah6qdxV6pt6.99
http://bankruptspurs.wordpress.com/2014/05/26/levy-and-learning-to-love-poch/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jLgIl8v2JY
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4aGB7mGFqUAlso check your pm..
LexingtonSpurs
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I was gonna do something but couldn't be bothered; glad someone did though.
So, I guess my response was just overlooked....
Yid
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coyspurs18
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Time to start practicing...
Yid
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Sarsipius
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Jesus, his name is a bit like Schrodinger's cat. Until you actually try to pronounce it, it's simultaneously both Potchettino AND Pockettino!!
I need a lie down...
Flashspur
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beats1
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All good stuff except the bankrupt spurs one imo
thinktank
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You're right. Binned.
Did well when doing the rounds on twitter as a light-hearted lure, but no real technical insight.
Flashspur
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Yessir! I have to say I was for Pochettino from day one having been a Bielsa fan for many years. The magical thing about Poch is that he has taken the special one's unremitting attack at all costs game and given it a pragmatic touch. It does beg the question - will I have egg on my face in 12 months time? I can see the FDB supporters going - we told you so! Who knows. All in all you have to say that he will bring a measure of discipline, panache, aggressive tempo and direct attacking philosophy to Spurs. He should also tighten us up defensively.
We have an exceptional squad. Its embarrasing how poorly they were handled by both AVB and Sherwood at times, even though injuries did play a role in tying both managers hands.
Apart from a new striker and CB and LB cover, I dont see a lot being needed personnel wise. The purchase of the hyphenated one from St Mary's however, would be very tasty indeed. I see him as a better prospect then Shaw long term. The Frenchman is another who wouldn't look out of sorts in our colors.
Onwards and upwards. Welcome Poch and barring last minutes issues (McClaren WTF??) I am sure you are already licking your lips at the thought of getting your hands on one of the strongest and talented squads in the PL.
Flashspur
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Yes and well articulated. I still laugh at poor Lamela running at the oppositions goal, passing to a team mate and then cleverly moving into space to get the return and then NOTHING. It happened again and again and again. Ha, if you couldn't laugh at the stupidity of it, you would just cry.
We have a pretty talented squad. They came 6th FFS playing as 11 individuals! To see them play together as a team would really be something. Now wouldnt that be fuckin' unique. Who would have thought?
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etchedchaos
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I must be the only one not overly worried about energy levels under Doctor Poch, alot of teams will park the bus against us, so that high pressing game he uses at Soton will be used less as we'd have the majority of possession, unlike Soton who weren't given that benefit.
SargeantMeatCurtains
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What a soggy biscuit.
thinktank
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fortworthspur
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according to the Telegraph its going to be Poch. The same article says UTD will buy Luke Shaw for 27 million. Dear me, 27 million pounds for an 18 year old left back. Can this be right?
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Just looking at our squad and how it might fit in to how Poch had Southampton playing and the first thing that is obvious is how much we need to trim the squad, especially if we want to promote youngsters.
First of all though, the Europe league. Poch didn't have to cope with this extra competition and has been quoted that he thinks it is a waste of time, but it is an extra CL place this year. Also, with the size of out squad (even with a huge trim) there is no reason why we can't play a completely different team in the group stages. Outside of the group stages, there are a total of 9 extra games to deal with if we make the final (this season we only had 4).
Southampton usually play 4-2-3-1.
Strikers - Ade probably fits the best to play as Lambert did, but I think teams would be set up differently Vs us and we will face more "parked busses" than Southampton did, so I think movement & intelligence are just as important. I think we will be fine with Ade (though rumors are he will leave), Soldado & Kane.
Midfield & wide players - Southampton had 4 players that played several positions in most matches in the 3 behind the striker. Rodriquez played LW & SC, Lallana played RW, LW & AMC, Davis played AMC, CM& RW, and Ware-Prowse played RW, CM and on the very odd occasion LW.
In the 2 CM positions, he usually had 2 of Cork, Schneiderlin & Wanyama (with Davis also playing there on occasion). These are 2 defensive CM players but, I think we would benefit from having one DM and one CM who could, though isn't defensive, could help out with closing down etc.
I think there are 4 players that stand out as not a great fit straight away.
Lennon - won't take his man on anymore, low intelligence in finals 1/3 and poor end product. I think we will try and sell him.
Townsend - Likes to run from deep rather than off the shoulder and lack of scoring ability means he is no good for the Rodriguez role. Lack of intelligence & end product mean he is not a good choice for the other 2 roles either.
Siggy - I'm probably being harsh on siggy (with the size of our squad I think we have to be), but I just don't think he has enough creativity & guile about him to fit any of the 3 behind the striker.
Dembele - Poch like to play with high tempo passing and for me, he holds onto the ball for too long. Maybe it can be trained out of him (and if it can, he could turn into a great player under Poch).
For the AMC and wide play maker role (Davis, Lallana & Ward-Prowse) we have Eriksen, Lamela, Chadli & Holby. I think this is enough considering we have Pritchard & Ceballos waiting in the wings.
I don't think we have an ideal player for the Rodriquez role, I think Lamela & Chadli could do a good job there, but we need an option with pace. We have been linked with Batshuayi, is he a similar type of player to Rodrigiez? If so, he could be an ideal signing.
For the DMC we have Sandro & Capoue, so we are spoilt for choice there and we have Veljkovic coming through the ranks.
For CM, I think Paulinho could do a job here, he has shown for Brazil that he can aid his defensive partner and he also makes runs forwards creating space and getting into good positions. I really think Poch will turn him into the player we know he can be. If Poch can teach Dembele to not keep hold of the ball so ofthen and play quick passes, he would be amazing here. We also have Holtby who can play here and Carroll & Bentelab to share some game time.
Defense & GK - I have board myself now and can't even be bothered to do defense (which we all needs upgrading) and GK (which is more than fine), so I will just say, we need to buy a 1st choice LB, CB and if Rose isn't happy being back up, a home grown sub LB too.
To Summarise I think our squad should be:
Ade, Soldado & Kane
New Wing Fwd,Chadli, Eriksen, Holtby, Lamela, Pritchard & Ceballos
Sandro, Capoue, Paulinho, Maybe Dembele, Carroll, Bentaleb & Veljkovic
New LB, Rose or new back up HG LB, Fryers
Walker, Naughton, Fredericks
Verts, New CB, Kaboul, Chiriches & Dawson
Lloris Freidel & Archer
Non HG players - 17 (assuming all new comers aren't HG)
HG Players - 7
U21 Players -6
So we would have enough space in the squad for 1 more HG player over 21.
Buy -
Wing Fwd (Batshuayi, does Kono score enough?)
LB (Rodriquez?)
CB (Schar, Lovren?)
Maybe a back up HG LB (Davies?)
Sell -
Siggy
Livermore
Falque
Lennon
Townsend
BAE
Khumalo
First of all though, the Europe league. Poch didn't have to cope with this extra competition and has been quoted that he thinks it is a waste of time, but it is an extra CL place this year. Also, with the size of out squad (even with a huge trim) there is no reason why we can't play a completely different team in the group stages. Outside of the group stages, there are a total of 9 extra games to deal with if we make the final (this season we only had 4).
Southampton usually play 4-2-3-1.
Strikers - Ade probably fits the best to play as Lambert did, but I think teams would be set up differently Vs us and we will face more "parked busses" than Southampton did, so I think movement & intelligence are just as important. I think we will be fine with Ade (though rumors are he will leave), Soldado & Kane.
Midfield & wide players - Southampton had 4 players that played several positions in most matches in the 3 behind the striker. Rodriquez played LW & SC, Lallana played RW, LW & AMC, Davis played AMC, CM& RW, and Ware-Prowse played RW, CM and on the very odd occasion LW.
In the 2 CM positions, he usually had 2 of Cork, Schneiderlin & Wanyama (with Davis also playing there on occasion). These are 2 defensive CM players but, I think we would benefit from having one DM and one CM who could, though isn't defensive, could help out with closing down etc.
I think there are 4 players that stand out as not a great fit straight away.
Lennon - won't take his man on anymore, low intelligence in finals 1/3 and poor end product. I think we will try and sell him.
Townsend - Likes to run from deep rather than off the shoulder and lack of scoring ability means he is no good for the Rodriguez role. Lack of intelligence & end product mean he is not a good choice for the other 2 roles either.
Siggy - I'm probably being harsh on siggy (with the size of our squad I think we have to be), but I just don't think he has enough creativity & guile about him to fit any of the 3 behind the striker.
Dembele - Poch like to play with high tempo passing and for me, he holds onto the ball for too long. Maybe it can be trained out of him (and if it can, he could turn into a great player under Poch).
For the AMC and wide play maker role (Davis, Lallana & Ward-Prowse) we have Eriksen, Lamela, Chadli & Holby. I think this is enough considering we have Pritchard & Ceballos waiting in the wings.
I don't think we have an ideal player for the Rodriquez role, I think Lamela & Chadli could do a good job there, but we need an option with pace. We have been linked with Batshuayi, is he a similar type of player to Rodrigiez? If so, he could be an ideal signing.
For the DMC we have Sandro & Capoue, so we are spoilt for choice there and we have Veljkovic coming through the ranks.
For CM, I think Paulinho could do a job here, he has shown for Brazil that he can aid his defensive partner and he also makes runs forwards creating space and getting into good positions. I really think Poch will turn him into the player we know he can be. If Poch can teach Dembele to not keep hold of the ball so ofthen and play quick passes, he would be amazing here. We also have Holtby who can play here and Carroll & Bentelab to share some game time.
Defense & GK - I have board myself now and can't even be bothered to do defense (which we all needs upgrading) and GK (which is more than fine), so I will just say, we need to buy a 1st choice LB, CB and if Rose isn't happy being back up, a home grown sub LB too.
To Summarise I think our squad should be:
Ade, Soldado & Kane
New Wing Fwd,Chadli, Eriksen, Holtby, Lamela, Pritchard & Ceballos
Sandro, Capoue, Paulinho, Maybe Dembele, Carroll, Bentaleb & Veljkovic
New LB, Rose or new back up HG LB, Fryers
Walker, Naughton, Fredericks
Verts, New CB, Kaboul, Chiriches & Dawson
Lloris Freidel & Archer
Non HG players - 17 (assuming all new comers aren't HG)
HG Players - 7
U21 Players -6
So we would have enough space in the squad for 1 more HG player over 21.
Buy -
Wing Fwd (Batshuayi, does Kono score enough?)
LB (Rodriquez?)
CB (Schar, Lovren?)
Maybe a back up HG LB (Davies?)
Sell -
Siggy
Livermore
Falque
Lennon
Townsend
BAE
Khumalo
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We have 2 potentially world class players with Eriksen and Lamela and a quality striker in Soldado. Its up to Poch to adapt his style to them instead of trying to buy a Lambert type or Rodriguez type player.
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