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The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

McFlash

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And it shouldn’t, we should learn from Everton demonstrated outside and supported their team inside.
And harass their players outside the stadium, while making it unsafe for board members to attend games?!
(Let alone rumours of female board members being physically assaulted).

I'm not sure we should be adopting the Everton approach mate
 

Lea

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Levy’s wasted £200+ on transfer in the last 5 years

£80m+ on sacked managers
at least £100m lost on not selling players poch wanted out.
£400m lost through incompetence should be reason enough to get a CEO fired.
Lol, we didn’t demand sacking managers. Poch didn’t get rid of decent players like Walker and Tripper. bit of objectivity and facts needed
 

RELISYS

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And that's why we need a proper strategy and vision from top to bottom.
Not this spasmodic, reactionary approach we've had for so long.
So the non backing of Managers rhetoric is nonsense as is the we don't spend rhetoric.

It's the actually backing of the Managers that is the problem. It's the Director Of Football we should be backing,, not the Manager. He brings in players for a specific style of play and appoints a Manager with a similar philosophy then we have continuity.

We have actually tried to do this in the past with, Frank Arnesen and Martin Jol, Damien Camolli and Juande Ramos, Franco Baldini and Mauricio Pochettino. All with attacking minded Director Of Football that brought in attacking minded Managers. There has been a clear strategy throughout large parts of Daniel Levy Chairmanship, but it has not paid off to the extent that the fans would like but there is no denying that a clear strategy existed.

And now we are attempting the same strategy again, but this time with a Director Of Football who prefers a more defensive/balanced style of play. He prevented the appointment of Paulo Fonseca and attempted to appoint Gennaro Gattuso, Nuno Espirito Santo and Antonio Conte all Managers with a similar philosophy and is bringing in players that fit that philosophy. Yet again, a clear strategy now exist. It's when we don't have a Director Of Football things get erratic. Levy knows his limitations otherwise we wouldn't bring in a Director Of Football.
 

Finchyid

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And how exactly that going to help the team, Conte and the new players. Just seen on twitter those who actually want us to lose but it’s not to “make a point“ to Levy it’s to upset Arsenal. I cam to a conclusion that the toxicity it’s all about Arsenal doing well
I had the same thought..people were not moaning at the end of last year in the way they are now
 

Archibald&Crooks

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I had the same thought..people were not moaning at the end of last year in the way they are now
I don't doubt there's an element of this, it can't help seeing them being so bad and then turning it around to the point where they are actually challenging for the title. And doing it so quickly too.

But if we can take anything away from that, it's that as unlikely as it seems right now, it can happen for us as well.

But the trouble is, people have lost confidence in our actually doing that whilst Levy is in charge because it's like we're a rudderless ship and I don't think it's solely down to the scum doing well, net spend, backing managers or any of the other magic things people bicker about. That's all just a pointless aside that's deflecting away from the actual problem.
 

Stamford

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I agree with this if your point stretches out on a 20yr timeline but how long exactly have we been charging the highest price? If the answer is: since the new ground opened, and you have wanted us to be challenging to win the Premier League in this time - with Brexit, a Pandemic, losing shit loads of money, Jose>Nuno, Hitchin>Fabio, trying to offload the shit and replace with upgrades, Harry and Conte with 1 foot possibly out the door if they want it.. whilst City, Chelsea, Newcastle, Utd, Arse have been splashing the cash for fun... my reply would be you're off your rocker mate.

Those same points apply to all the other teams and we've charged the highest progress for years so it's not relevant.
 

spursfan77

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Is Joe Lewis Levy’s boss or is Levy pretty much unsackable because of his stake in the club?
I expect Joe Lewis is very happy with the job Levy’s done.

He’s made Lewis an absolute fortune though through the club’s value so he’d never sack him.
 

spursfast

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Exactly. So this thread needs to be the ousting of Daniel Levy & Joe Lewis. Lewis sets the transfer budget doesn’t he?
I understand levy owns 29% of the stock , owing shares are different 30% and above , but with 29% of the company for him.to depart and go into other things it would take something quite considerable
 

Japhet

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I don't doubt there's an element of this, it can't help seeing them being so bad and then turning it around to the point where they are actually challenging for the title. And doing it so quickly too.

But if we can take anything away from that, it's that as unlikely as it seems right now, it can happen for us as well.

But the trouble is, people have lost confidence in our actually doing that whilst Levy is in charge because it's like we're a rudderless ship and I don't think it's solely down to the scum doing well, net spend, backing managers or any of the other magic things people bicker about. That's all just a pointless aside that's deflecting away from the actual problem.


The big difference between them and us is that when they get given a 'golden opportunity' they're much better at taking it than we are. They had an easy run of games at the start of the season and made the most of it with a great run of results that built confidence and set the foundation for what was to follow. If that had been us I'm pretty sure we'd have been complacent and would have returned a mediocre set of results. Us beating them to the CL places last year seems to have fired them up whereas if it was the other way round we'd still be sulking.
 

McFlash

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So the non backing of Managers rhetoric is nonsense as is the we don't spend rhetoric.

It's the actually backing of the Managers that is the problem. It's the Director Of Football we should be backing,, not the Manager. He brings in players for a specific style of play and appoints a Manager with a similar philosophy then we have continuity.

We have actually tried to do this in the past with, Frank Arnesen and Martin Jol, Damien Camolli and Juande Ramos, Franco Baldini and Mauricio Pochettino. All with attacking minded Director Of Football that brought in attacking minded Managers. There has been a clear strategy throughout large parts of Daniel Levy Chairmanship, but it has not paid off to the extent that the fans would like but there is no denying that a clear strategy existed.

And now we are attempting the same strategy again, but this time with a Director Of Football who prefers a more defensive/balanced style of play. He prevented the appointment of Paulo Fonseca and attempted to appoint Gennaro Gattuso, Nuno Espirito Santo and Antonio Conte all Managers with a similar philosophy and is bringing in players that fit that philosophy. Yet again, a clear strategy now exist. It's when we don't have a Director Of Football things get erratic. Levy knows his limitations otherwise we wouldn't bring in a Director Of Football.
Blimey, I've had a long day and I don't even know where to start with this long and slightly erratic post.
I'm not even sure what you're getting at, to be honest?
If you think there's been a clear and coherent strategy throughout Levy's time here...well...I guess that's cool.

I think we've flitted between defensive and attacking managers, small names and big names, without properly following any of them through with any real support.
As soon as any manager has wanted to take the next step, the club has shat it's pants and changed tack.

If we had stuck with any one train of thought, or strategy, we wouldn't have wasted so much on failed transfers.
 
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