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Thank fuck for that.I'm out.
Thank fuck for that.I'm out.
Social Media post being out of proportion isn't a shocker though, right.Well yes, but if you read here and social media it's like the end of the world to some. So much so that you would expect a bigger plan of action being taken rather than a few black balloons being released onto the pitch.
How have I contradicted myself? I want him out. I just want to see the fanbase actually come together and do something properly while not resorting to childish insults calling him a bald ****. We have several smaller groups trying to organise things and it doesn't work. It needs to be one group, one plan of protest. We can;t even agree on here on what is the right or wrong way to protest.you keep contradicting yourself.
His incompetence really riles me, and I'm not ashamed to admit when we lose/play badly it fcks me over. Always has done, always will.
But I want the team to do well, and to support them, to the point where on a matchday that's all I'm bothered about. Not balloons, tennis balls, banners. I'd join in a chant if we're a couple down, but the next moment, after a good bit of play or bad reffing, whatever, the game takes me over again.
I'm tired of your woke police routine.
See ya.
Totally agree. Needs to be one big voice with a clear message and idea. Dare I say it, but the levy out, at this stage at least, is about as organised as levy is at running the football side of the club.How have I contradicted myself? I want him out. I just want to see the fanbase actually come together and do something properly while not resorting to childish insults calling him a bald ****. We have several smaller groups trying to organise things and it doesn't work. It needs to be one group, one plan of protest. We can;t even agree on here on what is the right or wrong way to protest.
There is nothing woke about not wanting this to become a personal bullying campaign towards Levy. Neither his personal appearance nor his family life have anything to do with Tottenham Hotspur Football Club and how he runs the club.
How else was it ever going to be? To start with that is. IF it ever gets organised (and that's a big 'IF') it'll either happen organically or stay as it is with fragments of the ousters all wanting the same thing but with different ideas about how to go about it, it'll simmer away and probably, at some point (depending on events) will peter outTotally agree. Needs to be one big voice with a clear message and idea. Dare I say it, but the levy out, at this stage at least, is about as organised as levy is at running the football side of the club.
Right DOF firstI'm the opposite. The club doesn't need a lot to kick on. I'm annoyed that we have lost our identity, however culture and identity is easily fixable.
Every problem we have can be fixed, starting with the right manager.
Surely it would make sense to have it done through one entity with a singular plan and manifest rather than a few smaller ones who are sending mixed messages constantly?How else was it ever going to be? To start with that is. IF it ever gets organised (and that's a big 'IF') it'll either happen organically or stay as it is with fragments of the ousters all wanting the same thing but with different ideas about how to go about it, it'll simmer away and probably, at some point (depending on events) will peter out
Once it took hold this was never going to be some organised movement and even if it were, you'd still get people acting independently of that. All of this 'organised' stuff seems a bit naive to me, it expects too much and suspiciously, more energy seems to be spent knocking how people protest than actually protesting, from a few people i've seen banging on about it it's like "Do it how I think or don't do it at all" I just don't see why people would do that. It's strange how not one of the 'you need to organise' people has come forward and done just that. Huge Delia Smith moment on that one.
At the end of the day, protesting might do some good, it might not, nobody knows but don't knock people for trying. Ideally it'd be outside the ground after games but this isn't an ideal world. Ever since protesting at football began it's been done in the ground so no, as i've said, it's not ideal, it's just how it is.
Fuck me, we can't even agree on the need to protest let alone how to
I think you are being very optimisticWhat, 1 or 2 seasons? 3 out of 4 cl qualifiers have had a write off season. It may well be a blip
I'm not knocking anyone. I'm all for levy stepping aside or getting out for good. Signed the petition etc.. I was only making an observation as it occurred to me. Viva la revolutionHow else was it ever going to be? To start with that is. IF it ever gets organised (and that's a big 'IF') it'll either happen organically or stay as it is with fragments of the ousters all wanting the same thing but with different ideas about how to go about it, it'll simmer away and probably, at some point (depending on events) will peter out
Once it took hold this was never going to be some organised movement and even if it were, you'd still get people acting independently of that. All of this 'organised' stuff seems a bit naive to me, it expects too much and suspiciously, more energy seems to be spent knocking how people protest than actually protesting, from a few people i've seen banging on about it it's like "Do it how I think or don't do it at all" I just don't see why people would do that. It's strange how not one of the 'you need to organise' people has come forward and done just that. Huge Delia Smith moment on that one.
At the end of the day, protesting might do some good, it might not, nobody knows but don't knock people for trying. Ideally it'd be outside the ground after games but this isn't an ideal world. Ever since protesting at football began it's been done in the ground so no, as i've said, it's not ideal, it's just how it is.
Fuck me, we can't even agree on the need to protest let alone how to
Sorry, I wasn't suggesting you were but there are people who keep on and on telling people it's a waste of time unless it's organised. But what do we do? Stop?I'm not knocking anyone. I'm all for levy stepping aside or getting out for good. Signed the petition etc.. I was only making an observation as it occurred to me. Viva la revolution
It’s what the ignore button is for!!I don’t personally know a single Levy Out supporter that would advocate invading his privacy and intimidating him at his own house. I think reasonable people on both sides of the argument agree that’s completely unacceptable. It’s a bit strange therefore, - and a little desperate - that you should use that position as a reason to ridicule. Or is a refusal to condone violent protest something to be sneered at these days? It’s clear you’re desperate to continually patronise Levy Out supporters by characterising us as mindless thugs who are only calling for his removal out of some kind of irrational hatred for the bloke. But the evidence of his failings - as detailed constantly over the last 4 years by our most trusted ITKs - is logical and reasoned, and more importantly, clear and obvious to anyone who prioritises support of the football club over loyalty to its chairman. Shame you can’t see that. But there you go, you snigger away if it makes you feel superior.
They have, but sadly they’ll just use it as justification not to spend as much in the summer (not that Levy needs much encouragement on that front).That is a brilliant point. The ownership has actually f*cked itself financially so many times over the past few years with its lack of joined up thinking.
Recovering from covid, concussion and pancreatitis. Best to just ignore meSorry, I wasn't suggesting you were but there are people who keep on and on telling people it's a waste of time. I think we know that.
I mean, of course an organised protest would be better, of course it would. I didn't think that needed saying. I was obviously wrong
This is the problem though, it will never be half empty. No matter what protests happen. For me personally, I am not ENIC out or IN, I support Spurs and will always (as a season ticket holder) pay money to the club because I support the club, I will always buy a shirt, get every programme and also spend money in the ground. If people want to protest thats OK with me but the main issue is its a lot of social media noise imo that when it comes down to it people just can't be botheredThe protests have just not got off the ground enough to generate the attention they need, ie on SKy BT etc during games. Some mention of them during games etc, but its small enough stuff so far. Never thought i would say it, but we need to hear the likes of Neville, Carragher and co talking about it, highlighting the facts of whats going on. Ideally it needs to get into the media as much as possible, this will get everyones attention including DL ,as not all publicity is good publicity, especially if sentiment is poor and directly against you, in turn effecting sponsorship deals and/or income. Personally I feel the protests and determination to oust DL died a small bit when Mason was appointed for fear he may take it as being directed at him and due to the fact the last remnants of the AC regime had been removed and lifted the fanbase some what as they got behind Ryan.
I have no season ticket, but not attending and not reselling the ticket, resulting in a half empty stadium would be a statement that could not be ignored, but organising it would be extremely difficult as the fanbase is so split on what route to take. Perhaps a chat with some old Newcastle heads who lead the fight against Ashley might help?
Sounds like one hell of a party!Recovering from covid, concussion and pancreatitis. Best to just ignore me
It's been a hell of a month lolSounds like one hell of a party!