The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

[vicbob]

Not a great statement by any means - but the tone of it is very different to what we usually see. Have looked back through all of the statements I could find (there are many) and they are all either very blunt and straight to the point, or wish the manager well after talking about their successes, maybe at best saying something like "it's not worked out the way we hoped".


Conte
Nuno - came from Paratici not Levy
Mourinho
Pochettino
Sherwood
AVB
Redknapp
Ramos


It won't be enough for most people, but this is the very first time Levy appears to have actually acknowledged some degree of responsibility this time around.

Honestly, it smacks of desperation.
That whole statement is a PR exercise to try and buy him more time, another try at getting it right.
It’s cringey and desperate

 

[Joe Bjorn Hotspur]

Don’t tell me, this is his last chance to get it right…………………….again

Last throw of the and counting.

 

[dSSAbr]

ChatGPT doing the work for Daniel

 

[Rocksuperstar]

But when will levy learn ?

We can’t have a defensive manager

A lot of our players are shit

Don't get me started on the defensive managers - drives me more bonkers than anything else about him. Didn't he claim he plays attacking football, despite being stereo-typically Italian at every club he's managed? Yeah, I'm with you there - if Levy swallowed that in the interview, he should feel bad

(this thread's more fun when people can disagree but still be civil, right? Cheers for replying, I'm not an apologist, but I am a realist, and I feel that appointments made in good faith and a reasonable expectation of at least a good effort shouldn't be held up as his fault. Nuno, totally, should never have been offered the job, same with Stellini, but the likes of Jose & Conte let us down and I think they need to take some blame for that).

 

[Cavehillspur]

Not a great statement by any means - but the tone of it is very different to what we usually see. Have looked back through all of the statements I could find (there are many) and they are all either very blunt and straight to the point, or wish the manager well after talking about their successes, maybe at best saying something like "it's not worked out the way we hoped".


Conte
Nuno - came from Paratici not Levy
Mourinho
Pochettino
Sherwood
AVB
Redknapp
Ramos


It won't be enough for most people, but this is the very first time Levy appears to have actually acknowledged some degree of responsibility this time around.

Trying to avoid a toxic atmosphere and have people snap up the waves of tickets available on the exchange ahead of the united game perhaps.

 

[AngryBob]

Reading the statement again it's like it was written by ChatGPT.

I understand. Here is a possible version of a resignation letter in the voice of Daniel Levy, where he does not take responsibility for his actions and uses a more passive-aggressive tone:

Dear Tottenham Hotspur Football Club community,

After much contemplation, I have decided to tender my resignation as chairman of the club. While it has been a privilege to serve in this position, it has become clear to me that the club's lack of progress is due to factors beyond my control.

Despite my best efforts to bring in new players and staff, we have failed to achieve the level of success that we all hoped for. While some may be quick to lay blame at my feet, the reality is that our underperformance is a reflection of larger systemic issues that cannot be resolved by any one person.

I am disappointed that my vision for the club was not realized, but I am confident that with new leadership, Tottenham Hotspur will eventually rise to the top. I would like to thank the fans, players, and staff for their unwavering support and dedication to the club.

It is my hope that my successor will be able to navigate the challenges that lie ahead and bring the club to greater heights. Once again, thank you for the opportunity to serve as chairman of this great club.

Sincerely,

Daniel Levy

 

[newbie]

Don't get me started on the defensive managers - drives me more bonkers than anything else about him. Didn't he claim he plays attacking football, despite being stereo-typically Italian at every club he's managed? Yeah, I'm with you there - if Levy swallowed that in the interview, he should feel bad

(this thread's more fun when people can disagree but still be civil, right? Cheers for replying, I'm not an apologist, but I am a realist, and I feel that appointments made in good faith and a reasonable expectation of at least a good effort shouldn't be held up as his fault. Nuno, totally, should never have been offered the job, same with Stellini, but the likes of Jose & Conte let us down and I think they need to take some blame for that).

I get that and tbf they did well to start with, if you are going to sign a defensive manager give them defenders then!



Tbh we both agree he had no choice I get his logic, my gripe is no planning when we needed to replace players or managers, the club needs a direction and ethos, a scouting department, players who can slot in, levy even said continental clubs the managers can go and it’s seamless, so why is it not so at spurs!

 

[NEVILLEB]

Now he blames the interim Manager

 

[Wiener]

It would be nice to have a sober and measured look at what has actually happened this season and where we are in the league. We have been in the top 5 for most the season (after a good start to the season). In third and with one defeat (away to Arsenal - this season's team) after ten games.

The next five games we lose 3 against Man U (a), Newcastle (h) and Liverpool (a) - down to fourth. Off the pitch, at the beginning of October Conte had lost, to leukaemia, the fitness coach Ventrone, with whom he had worked on and off since the mid nineties. By all accounts he was an important and popular member of the coaching team. Many of the players seemed to like and respect him.

After the WC break only Arsenal and Man City manage to maintain any form of consistency. Most of our other rivals (Liverpool, Chelsea, Man U) are struggling to show any kind of form. We aren't much better.

In the end what makes the difference, in my opinion, is that Conte packs it in (and in mid-february we lose one of our key players, Betancur, for the season) after his Gall Bladder surgery at the start of February. He stays with his family in Italy (they haven't moved to London) and his recovery takes weeks longer than anticipated. On the 11th February we lose 4:1 away to Leicester (the game in which Betancur sustains his injured).

We lose away to Wolves but are still in fourth. The wheels only seem to come off in our last five games. All the games are winnable but we throw away a lead agains Southampton (Conte walks) and Everton (10 men).

This is mainly Conte's failure and his decision to walk away from his professional obligations. He has good personal reasons but I think it showed a lack of class to have a go at the players (who share some of the blame). I will for one will not miss him.

Of course Levy shares some responsibility for choosing this volatile and difficult individual as our manager (leaving aside the fact Conte's football is results driven and pragmatic and not what we want to see). It's hard to be optimistic given where we are now, without a manager and a rock-bottom morale leaderless team. However we shouldn't join in the hysterical nonsense which the media (and some fans) are spouting. I think we will be back challenging for a CL spot next season, hopefully playing some decent football.

 

[HW61]

Every day I get more alarmed at the depth of the shit show Levy has created.

What a short bland media team written piece of garbage from our supposed leader.

Can’t imagine what could happen next….

 

[Rocksuperstar]

I get that and tbf they did well to start with, if you are going to sign a defensive manager give them defenders then!



Tbh we both agree he had no choice I get his logic, my gripe is no planning when we needed to replace players or managers, the club needs a direction and ethos, a scouting department, players who can slot in, levy even said continental clubs the managers can go and it’s seamless, so why is it not so at spurs!

And that comes back around to my concerns with how enthusiastically Levy would switch to a new manager's ideas. He tries too hard. There was a lot of accusations that he wasn't backing his managers, wouldn't open the purse far enough to get players in etc. from fans, but that hasn't came up from managers, so that left me to assume the funds were available.

All of the evidence suggests he was a bit too eager to please each new manager, so we end up with a half and half squad, some players wanted, some just crammed in there. Levy's also no sucker to greedy agents and I fully, 100% respect him for that, even if it has meant we've missed out on some players that might've done a job for us, that clubs like Citeh or Chelsea would've just shelled out on.

I know nothing about Munn - he could be a lunatic chancer who's blagged his way in and, six months from now, we might back where we started, but we're here now so hopefully Levy finds trust in him and if he loosens the reins a bit, lets Munn get on with his job, it pays off. Dunno.

 

[SirNiNyHotspur]

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[Mr Pink]

The minute Levy goes is when significant change will come.

Not until then.

 

[newbie]

And that comes back around to my concerns with how enthusiastically Levy would switch to a new manager's ideas. He tries too hard. There was a lot of accusations that he wasn't backing his managers, wouldn't open the purse far enough to get players in etc. from fans, but that hasn't came up from managers, so that left me to assume the funds were available.

All of the evidence suggests he was a bit too eager to please each new manager, so we end up with a half and half squad, some players wanted, some just crammed in there. Levy's also no sucker to greedy agents and I fully, 100% respect him for that, even if it has meant we've missed out on some players that might've done a job for us, that clubs like Citeh or Chelsea would've just shelled out on.

I know nothing about Munn - he could be a lunatic chancer who's blagged his way in and, six months from now, we might back where we started, but we're here now so hopefully Levy finds trust in him and if he loosens the reins a bit, lets Munn get on with his job, it pays off. Dunno.

Maybe

We need though to keep bring though good young players we stopped that the last was deli a promising young lower league player, my gripe is for a double billion pound company there’s no plan in place, and a lack of understanding of the ethos of the club

 

[PaulM]

Am I the only one who is massively concerned that there is apparently a player committee who has the ear of the chairman?

What chance has any manager got coming into this shitshow?

 

[Ruffinthepuffin]

Am I the only one who is massively concerned that there is apparently a player committee who has the ear of the chairman?

What chance has any manager got coming into this shitshow?

No mate, it’s a very worrying admission imvho.

 

[synththfc]

Am I the only one who is massively concerned that there is apparently a player committee who has the ear of the chairman?

What chance has any manager got coming into this shitshow?

Yeah this is incredibly concerning.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Maybe

We need though to keep bring though good young players we stopped that the last was deli a promising young lower league player, my gripe is for a double billion pound company there’s no plan in place, and a lack of understanding of the ethos of the club

Yeah, I am puzzled what happened there - we build that obnoxiously beautiful training facility, had a promising crop of youngsters coming through then they all left and since then we've had... what, Dane Scarlett? That's one of the only names that's coming out of the academy that I can pick off the top of my head. Skipp was already a fair way along that path (and I still think he's got a LOT more in the tank, if he's in a confident squad) but it's really run dry.

Hopefully a new youth coach and a few scouts are high on the list of priorities for Munn to sort out, once we get the shenanigans of rebuilding the first team out of the way.

 

[SUIYHA]

It would be nice to have a sober and measured look at what has actually happened this season and where we are in the league. We have been in the top 5 for most the season (after a good start to the season). In third and with one defeat (away to Arsenal - this season's team) after ten games.

The next five games we lose 3 against Man U (a), Newcastle (h) and Liverpool (a) - down to fourth. Off the pitch, at the beginning of October Conte had lost, to leukaemia, the fitness coach Ventrone, with whom he had worked on and off since the mid nineties. By all accounts he was an important and popular member of the coaching team. Many of the players seemed to like and respect him.
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After the WC break only Arsenal and Man City manage to maintain any form of consistency. Most of our other rivals (Liverpool, Chelsea, Man U) are struggling to show any kind of form. We aren't much better.

In the end what makes the difference, in my opinion, is that Conte packs it in (and in mid-february we lose one of our key players, Betancur, for the season) after his Gall Bladder surgery at the start of February. He stays with his family in Italy (they haven't moved to London) and his recovery takes weeks longer than anticipated. On the 11th February we lose 4:1 away to Leicester (the game in which Betancur sustains his injured).

We lose away to Wolves but are still in fourth. The wheels only seem to come off in our last five games. All the games are winnable but we throw away a lead agains Southampton (Conte walks) and Everton (10 men). View attachment 125381

This is mainly Conte's failure and his decision to walk away from his professional obligations. He has good personal reasons but I think it showed a lack of class to have a go at the players (who share some of the blame). I will for one will not miss him.

Of course Levy shares some responsibility for choosing this volatile and difficult individual as our manager (leaving aside the fact Conte's football is results driven and pragmatic and not what we want to see). It's hard to be optimistic given where we are now, without a manager and a rock-bottom morale leaderless team. However we shouldn't join in the hysterical nonsense which the media (and some fans) are spouting. I think we will be back challenging for a CL spot next season, hopefully playing some decent football.

The season died the moment Bentancur went down injured. Since then we've only won four out of twelve in all competitions:

• Chelsea - poor performance until we scored from a long ranger
• West Ham - one of the most boring first halves I've ever seen
• Forest - this one was ok, against a team destined for relegation
• Brighton - never deserved any points from this one, only a shocker from the refs got us anything here

We've fucked up the other 8 games - gone out of the cup to lower league opposition with an injury crisis, thrown away a two goal lead at Southampton, dominated by and thrown away a lead to 10 man Everton, failed to muster a meaningful effort on goal over two legs against Milan, beaten at home to Bournemouth and then yesterday's absolute shitshow. Am not even going to name all eight games as it's too depressing.

 

[Duke of Northumberland]

It would be nice to have a sober and measured look at what has actually happened this season and where we are in the league. We have been in the top 5 for most the season (after a good start to the season). In third and with one defeat (away to Arsenal - this season's team) after ten games.

The next five games we lose 3 against Man U (a), Newcastle (h) and Liverpool (a) - down to fourth. Off the pitch, at the beginning of October Conte had lost, to leukaemia, the fitness coach Ventrone, with whom he had worked on and off since the mid nineties. By all accounts he was an important and popular member of the coaching team. Many of the players seemed to like and respect him.
View attachment 125382
After the WC break only Arsenal and Man City manage to maintain any form of consistency. Most of our other rivals (Liverpool, Chelsea, Man U) are struggling to show any kind of form. We aren't much better.

In the end what makes the difference, in my opinion, is that Conte packs it in (and in mid-february we lose one of our key players, Betancur, for the season) after his Gall Bladder surgery at the start of February. He stays with his family in Italy (they haven't moved to London) and his recovery takes weeks longer than anticipated. On the 11th February we lose 4:1 away to Leicester (the game in which Betancur sustains his injured).

We lose away to Wolves but are still in fourth. The wheels only seem to come off in our last five games. All the games are winnable but we throw away a lead agains Southampton (Conte walks) and Everton (10 men). View attachment 125381

This is mainly Conte's failure and his decision to walk away from his professional obligations. He has good personal reasons but I think it showed a lack of class to have a go at the players (who share some of the blame). I will for one will not miss him.

Of course Levy shares some responsibility for choosing this volatile and difficult individual as our manager (leaving aside the fact Conte's football is results driven and pragmatic and not what we want to see). It's hard to be optimistic given where we are now, without a manager and a rock-bottom morale leaderless team. However we shouldn't join in the hysterical nonsense which the media (and some fans) are spouting. I think we will be back challenging for a CL spot next season, hopefully playing some decent football.

The Bentacur injury felt like it was significant and so it was