Buggsy61
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And me!. We both put the kiss of death on him!. What a (predictable) shambles today
The Cricket Thread
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mpickard2087
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Mo will have seen Roy take the title for daftest dismissal and want it back...........
Spurs_Bear
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He's lasted two balls longer than I thought he would...
TheChosenOne
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Spectacular collapse indeed.
mpickard2087
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Got it through it now, double century is coming.
Kingellesar
This is the way
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Aussies could've still been batting now and still had enough time to get us out.
SargeantMeatCurtains
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I’ve never seen such a bunch of spineless pricks in my life.
Not a single one of these dickheads had any intention of batting out the day.
Not a single one of these dickheads had any intention of batting out the day.
Kingellesar
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Lyon is 11/4 to take 5 wickets, that's not a bad price and Root, Burns and Stokes to score 150+ runs between them is 4/1 so I've spunked £20, sixteen on Lyon and the rest on the other as a saver. They'll probably both lose
Well you got one.....
Not the one we wanted though
dirtyh
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time for moeen to fuk off for sure. confidence is shot and not done anything for ages and is a waste of a place tbh. england need poch to sort out their mentality, that's been the difference in this test and probably will be all series.
Surely that's Mo out of the next test. Can't see how he can keep his place.
Problem is, this country can't manage both forms of the game at the same time, without screwing one of them up. When the test team is crap, and we prioritise it, the one day side suffers, and vice versa.
Since the last WC, we made sure the ODI side became the best in the world. But the test side has suffered since.
Problem is, this country can't manage both forms of the game at the same time, without screwing one of them up. When the test team is crap, and we prioritise it, the one day side suffers, and vice versa.
Since the last WC, we made sure the ODI side became the best in the world. But the test side has suffered since.
SargeantMeatCurtains
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Moeen and Bairstow need to go now. Move Denley up and Roy down and I think we’ll be fine.
mpickard2087
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Where do you start? It's just all stuff I/we have said and discussed before. But it doesn't change.
We'll go with the line up going forward, to be honest there's not much to like about it from my perspective.
Openers - Who knows if Burns is the answer and he still looks so out of nick and a lot of what he does looks very unconvincing, but he's shown some heart and willingness to battle through and make tough runs. For now he stays. I might be wrong but Roy is just going to be like Hales in the test team I think, the occasional score, plenty of times his weaknesses are exposed, and the odd brainfart like today.
Middle - Root needs to lose the captaincy ASAP. Denly isn't international class and yet again picking someone with a deeply average first class record and expecting something from them. Buttler at 5 just reflects how bad it is batting wise in this country, how has he ended up there? Stokes shouldn't bat higher than 6, everyone's favourite but the record overall doesn't suggest he can do much more.
Keeper - One of them, at 7. Bairstow, Buttler, Foakes. Just make a choice.
Spinner - I guess you go to Leach. But needs an actual front line option with a sound skillset and belief.
Quicks - Losing Anderson here caused problems. In general though we have enough options, it's getting the right ones in for the conditions. Here on a dry pitch extra pace was needed. At Lords and Headingley will more likely be seamer friendly so maybe Curran, and then Old Trafford and the Oval that might be where someone like (a fully fit...) Archer comes into it. But they need to be logical and get the right ones out there at the right time.
So in a perfect world I'd be going next: Burns, OPENER, Root, FOUR, FIVE, Stokes, KEEPER, Curran, Woakes, Broad, Leach.
But I can only repeat again, this isn't changing until they do something about red ball cricket in this country, we're not getting the batsmen coming through in this format. We aren't getting enough quick bowlers, and definitely not enough spinners. I don't think the powers that be care though, I honestly think they want Test matches to be in this quicker fashion with our white ball players in and 4 day matches - one team has a dart, then the next, second bite of the cherry and see what happens. All in the name of 'entertainment'.
We'll go with the line up going forward, to be honest there's not much to like about it from my perspective.
Openers - Who knows if Burns is the answer and he still looks so out of nick and a lot of what he does looks very unconvincing, but he's shown some heart and willingness to battle through and make tough runs. For now he stays. I might be wrong but Roy is just going to be like Hales in the test team I think, the occasional score, plenty of times his weaknesses are exposed, and the odd brainfart like today.
Middle - Root needs to lose the captaincy ASAP. Denly isn't international class and yet again picking someone with a deeply average first class record and expecting something from them. Buttler at 5 just reflects how bad it is batting wise in this country, how has he ended up there? Stokes shouldn't bat higher than 6, everyone's favourite but the record overall doesn't suggest he can do much more.
Keeper - One of them, at 7. Bairstow, Buttler, Foakes. Just make a choice.
Spinner - I guess you go to Leach. But needs an actual front line option with a sound skillset and belief.
Quicks - Losing Anderson here caused problems. In general though we have enough options, it's getting the right ones in for the conditions. Here on a dry pitch extra pace was needed. At Lords and Headingley will more likely be seamer friendly so maybe Curran, and then Old Trafford and the Oval that might be where someone like (a fully fit...) Archer comes into it. But they need to be logical and get the right ones out there at the right time.
So in a perfect world I'd be going next: Burns, OPENER, Root, FOUR, FIVE, Stokes, KEEPER, Curran, Woakes, Broad, Leach.
But I can only repeat again, this isn't changing until they do something about red ball cricket in this country, we're not getting the batsmen coming through in this format. We aren't getting enough quick bowlers, and definitely not enough spinners. I don't think the powers that be care though, I honestly think they want Test matches to be in this quicker fashion with our white ball players in and 4 day matches - one team has a dart, then the next, second bite of the cherry and see what happens. All in the name of 'entertainment'.
Absorbing game with plenty of twists and turns
which is why I like the long game.
Time for batsmen and bowlers to get into rhythm
and play themselves in.
This fizzled out in the end but four intriguing days.
Any one still rooting for Roy for Test match cricket.
Doesn't seem to have the temperament to me.
Alli and Bairstow need to be rested/ dropped.
Smith and Lyon outplayed us in their different ways.
which is why I like the long game.
Time for batsmen and bowlers to get into rhythm
and play themselves in.
This fizzled out in the end but four intriguing days.
Any one still rooting for Roy for Test match cricket.
Doesn't seem to have the temperament to me.
Alli and Bairstow need to be rested/ dropped.
Smith and Lyon outplayed us in their different ways.
