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spursfan77

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Sissoko has to be on his way out surely?

Poch gave him a chance a while ago but he seems to have drifted further away from the starting line up (thankfully) so you'd hope his time is up. Its not going to be hard to improve on his position in the squad
 

ljinko888

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Sissoko has to be on his way out surely?

Poch gave him a chance a while ago but he seems to have drifted further away from the starting line up (thankfully) so you'd hope his time is up. Its not going to be hard to improve on his position in the squad

Swap deal for Barkley.......
 

nicdic

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You don't think he's better than Sissoko?
Sissoko doesn't get on the pitch with Lamela and Kane out, and when you take Son and Eriksen off on come Winks and Janssen. I'd say he's well down the pecking order. He's not getting any game time is he.
 

austinfh

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Who cares? Want the best for Spurs foremost. Making the national team should be incidental not a prerequisite
too many teams look for an instant fix from abroad rather than trying to bring forward their own youth/buying young english players. i wish that was the precedent and not an exception like with us
 

mugpunt

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I think that the fact that Potch has been so desperate to sign Isco for over a year now give a window into his thinking because it's hard to imagine him being brought in just to challenge Eriksen, rather presumably to play alongside him. And being that we signed Sissoko and clearly recognize we are lacking pace in forward positions I don't see the Isco signing filling that envisioned role either.

So taking Isco/Barkley and Sissoko/Mane as role prototypes in his envisioned side I understand that Potch wants to go more attacking in the Man City version of a 4-3-3 ( with Silva and De Bruine behind 3pressing forwards - Sane/Jesu/Sterling).

I think Barkley has the technique and physicality to play the split playmaker role with Eriksen sometimes becoming the deeper (Xavi style) of the pair.

Ali Kane Zaha ( Mbappe would be dreamy and give a front 3 potentially as good as anything in the world)
Eriksen Barkley/Isco
Wanyama
Rose Vert Ald Walker
Loris

Nkoudo Jansen Edwards
Onoma Dembelle
Winks
Davies Dier Keane CWP
Pau

Ccv, seesegnon, Sterling

Sell:
Son- Germany 30m
Lamela Italy. 25m
Sissoko China. 20m
Dembelle China 20m
Trippier+Wimmer px/ for Zaha to circumvent Man Us sell on deal
Vorm China. 5m
Njie. ? 9m
Sales completed this year including loan fees are Bentelab 19m Fabio 3.7m Carrol 8.4m= 31m

In: 140m in

Ins
Barkley/Isco 25m
Zaha px
Pau 5m
Keane 20m
Mbappe (wishing) 70m

120m

Net 19m profit ( maybe buy sessegnon other kids to bolster the squad)



I think that next year at Wembley will be a survival exercise in terms of our performance levels anyway so we might as well take the hit and start integrating youngsters into the squad wholesale pending our move into the NWHL where we can mount a sustained title challenge as we come to a squad calibrated to peak.

Taking the opportunity Chinas market offers to move the older members of our squad out at good prices in the next Winter Window is one we shouldn't miss imo
 
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ItsBoris

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The players being mentioned are not really the caliber required to take our team to another level. We don't need much, just one or two really top class players for the starting 11. A winger (Mahrez) and a creative midfielder would be ideal.
 

mugpunt

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The players being mentioned are not really the caliber required to take our team to another level. We don't need much, just one or two really top class players for the starting 11. A winger (Mahrez) and a creative midfielder would be ideal.

I agree we don't need much....And we should take advantage of players on 1 year remaining deals like Barkley Isco Keane who should be affordable in our stadium build cash crunch

I don't think Mahrez is the one tbh....he offers more of the same- a better lamela perhaps and lacks the explosivity/pace/stamina we need to balance our already 'tricky' attack. And on a long contract we would be paying big money to a 'premiership rival' ( won't be less than 40m IMO) for a 26 year old who hasn't shown consistent World class performance or really threatened to hit the highest heights. We'd be better buying either (both may be greedy) a kid who could get to the very top like Mbappe or a player profile that we presently lack (pace power stamina) in Zaha who should offer balance and minimally will be a solid squad rotation option + explosive sub, for the foreseeable
 

LexingtonSpurs

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The players being mentioned are not really the caliber required to take our team to another level. We don't need much, just one or two really top class players for the starting 11. A winger (Mahrez) and a creative midfielder would be ideal.
So, we need to replace Eriksen and Dele to get to the next level?
 

Trix

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I think that the fact that Potch has been so desperate to sign Isco for over a year now give a window into his thinking because it's hard to imagine him being brought in just to challenge Eriksen, rather presumably to play alongside him. And being that we signed Sissoko and clearly recognize we are lacking pace in forward positions I don't see the Isco signing filling that envisioned role either.

So taking Isco/Barkley and Sissoko/Mane as role prototypes in his envisioned side I understand that Potch wants to go more attacking in the Man City version of a 4-3-3 ( with Silva and De Bruine behind 3pressing forwards - Sane/Jesu/Sterling).

I think Barkley has the technique and physicality to play the split playmaker role with Eriksen sometimes becoming the deeper (Xavi style) of the pair.

Ali Kane Zaha ( Mbappe would be dreamy and give a front 3 potentially as good as anything in the world)
Eriksen Barkley/Isco
Wanyama
Rose Vert Ald Walker
Loris

Nkoudo Jansen Edwards
Onoma Dembelle
Winks
Davies Dier Keane CWP
Pau

Ccv, seesegno, Sterling

Sell:
Son- Germany 30m
Lamela Italy. 25m
Sissoko China. 20m
Dembelle China 20m
Trippier+Wimmer px/ for Zaha to circumvent Man Us sell on deal
Vorm China. 5m
Sales completed this year including loan fees are Bentelab 19m Fabio 3.7m Carrol 8.4m= 31m

In: 131m in

Ins
Barkley/Isco 25m
Zaha px
Pau 5m
Keane 20m
Mpabbe (wishing) 60m

110m out

Net 20m profit ( or buy sessegnon)



I think that next year at Wembley will be a survival exercise in terms of our performance levels anyway so we might as well take the hit and start integrating youngsters into the squad wholesale pending our move into the NWHL where we can mount a sustained title challenge as we come to a squad calibrated to peak.

Taking the opportunity Chinas market offers to move the older members of our squad out at good prices in the next Winter Window is one we shouldn't miss imo

Your name is Mugpunt you say.:cautious:
 

Giovanni

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Improving a team at our level in terms of players we have and finances is extreemly difficult. In an ideal world we would simply go and buy 1 top class player in the mould of hazard but we cant do that all that easily.
What we do want is a player who enables us to go from solid in defence and very balanced (which is where we are right now) to gung ho were going to batter your goalkeeper non stop for 60+mins and blow you away. We can do this by simply toying slightly with the lineup through rotation of players like wanyama/dembele/winks and inserting an attacking player.
Man city i see played with silva, de bryne, toure, sterling, aguero and sane. I mean jesus you cant get anymore attacking!
 

nightgoat

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Sep 12, 2005
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If our next desired level of our club is to win the PL, then we need a change of attitude , both within club & us fans. Barkley is not a better player than Fabregas. If Fabregas can sit in the bench & bide his time and play for the squad when asked, why not Barkley ? If we want ourself to be talked alongside Chelsea for title going forward, our mentality towards player & players mentality towards us has to change.

For a start Fabregas is nearly 30 and was signed by Mourinho, not Conte. Barkley is 23 and needs to be at a club where he will play virtually every game in order to kick on, not be a rotation option.
 

topper

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Improving a team at our level in terms of players we have and finances is extreemly difficult. In an ideal world we would simply go and buy 1 top class player in the mould of hazard but we cant do that all that easily.
What we do want is a player who enables us to go from solid in defence and very balanced (which is where we are right now) to gung ho were going to batter your goalkeeper non stop for 60+mins and blow you away. We can do this by simply toying slightly with the lineup through rotation of players like wanyama/dembele/winks and inserting an attacking player.
Man city i see played with silva, de bryne, toure, sterling, aguero and sane. I mean jesus you cant get anymore attacking!
And he wasn't even playing!
 

shelfboy68

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Jun 14, 2008
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Improving a team at our level in terms of players we have and finances is extreemly difficult. In an ideal world we would simply go and buy 1 top class player in the mould of hazard but we cant do that all that easily.
What we do want is a player who enables us to go from solid in defence and very balanced (which is where we are right now) to gung ho were going to batter your goalkeeper non stop for 60+mins and blow you away. We can do this by simply toying slightly with the lineup through rotation of players like wanyama/dembele/winks and inserting an attacking player.
Man city i see played with silva, de bryne, toure, sterling, aguero and sane. I mean jesus you cant get anymore attacking!

If city get their balance right they could be some team because as it stands right now they either can trash teams or they just don't turn up.
As for us I think 3/4 additions would see us about right and ready to sustain a push across most of the competitions.
 

danielneeds

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If city get their balance right they could be some team because as it stands right now they either can trash teams or they just don't turn up.
As for us I think 3/4 additions would see us about right and ready to sustain a push across most of the competitions.
They thrash teams because of their attacking quality of Augero, De Bruyne, Silva, Jesus, and Sane. But they need almost wholesale reconstruction this summer - GK, LB, RB, CB, DM, CM - and they need to settle all those players in. It's crazy when you think how much money they've spent.
 
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shelfboy68

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They thrash teams because of their attacking quality of Augero, De Bruyne, Silva, Jesus, and Sane. But they need almost wholesale reconstruction this summer - GK, LB, RB, CB, DM, CM - and they need to settle all those players in. It's crazy when you think how much money they've spent.

Exactly this is what I'm referring to by saying about their balance it's top heavy which luckily for them money is no object.
Makes our status amongst the elite even more remarkable considering our financial outlay compared to theirs.
 

ItsBoris

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True, but if Mahrez is playing...one of Dele or Eriksen is sitting.

Depends on formation. In the 4-2-3-1 they could all play, in the 3-4-3 yes it would only be two of them, but I think a player like Mahrez is a better fit as a wide forward than Eriksen, for example. Eriksen is more of a #10 in my mind. Still, it's about having quality options.
 

THFCSPURS19

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Jan 6, 2013
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Depends on formation. In the 4-2-3-1 they could all play, in the 3-4-3 yes it would only be two of them, but I think a player like Mahrez is a better fit as a wide forward than Eriksen, for example. Eriksen is more of a #10 in my mind. Still, it's about having quality options.
We don't play with wide forwards when we use the 3 at the back.
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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I think that the fact that Potch has been so desperate to sign Isco for over a year now give a window into his thinking because it's hard to imagine him being brought in just to challenge Eriksen, rather presumably to play alongside him. And being that we signed Sissoko and clearly recognize we are lacking pace in forward positions I don't see the Isco signing filling that envisioned role either.

So taking Isco/Barkley and Sissoko/Mane as role prototypes in his envisioned side I understand that Potch wants to go more attacking in the Man City version of a 4-3-3 ( with Silva and De Bruine behind 3pressing forwards - Sane/Jesu/Sterling).

I think Barkley has the technique and physicality to play the split playmaker role with Eriksen sometimes becoming the deeper (Xavi style) of the pair.

Ali Kane Zaha ( Mbappe would be dreamy and give a front 3 potentially as good as anything in the world)
Eriksen Barkley/Isco
Wanyama
Rose Vert Ald Walker
Loris

Nkoudo Jansen Edwards
Onoma Dembelle
Winks
Davies Dier Keane CWP
Pau

Ccv, seesegnon, Sterling

Sell:
Son- Germany 30m
Lamela Italy. 25m
Sissoko China. 20m
Dembelle China 20m
Trippier+Wimmer px/ for Zaha to circumvent Man Us sell on deal
Vorm China. 5m
Njie. ? 9m
Sales completed this year including loan fees are Bentelab 19m Fabio 3.7m Carrol 8.4m= 31m

In: 140m in

Ins
Barkley/Isco 25m
Zaha px
Pau 5m
Keane 20m
Mbappe (wishing) 70m

120m

Net 19m profit ( maybe buy sessegnon other kids to bolster the squad)



I think that next year at Wembley will be a survival exercise in terms of our performance levels anyway so we might as well take the hit and start integrating youngsters into the squad wholesale pending our move into the NWHL where we can mount a sustained title challenge as we come to a squad calibrated to peak.

Taking the opportunity Chinas market offers to move the older members of our squad out at good prices in the next Winter Window is one we shouldn't miss imo
Wondering why you think we'd sell Son when he's banged in 13 goals so far this season?
 
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