Summer Transfer Wish List - 2017

[Giovanni]

Oh and yes id rather isco too. Same type but much better. But poch want pl proven.

 

[arunspurs]

Question is who does he eventually displace in the starting line up ? he isnt known to play out wide so that just leaves the middle positions .... somewhere I think Winks should be getting first refusal if someone is injured or off form. Is he a better player than the options we have ? Will he accept coming here and being a squad player coz he damn sure isnt an automatic first teamer.

You are asking the wrong question.

If our next desired level of our club is to win the PL, then we need a change of attitude , both within club & us fans. Barkley is not a better player than Fabregas. If Fabregas can sit in the bench & bide his time and play for the squad when asked, why not Barkley ? If we want ourself to be talked alongside Chelsea for title going forward, our mentality towards player & players mentality towards us has to change.

We have a great first XI. What we lack is next 7 players on the bench to back them up.

Winks has played in 32 games all season inspite of being bit part player. Winks has now come on so well, that atleast going forward, I see him as replacement for Dembele. Barkley if bought could potentially cover Alli, Eriksen or even Dembele.

From what I see, there is a good fit. He could play in Europe as well as PL. Whether he will accept or not is down to him & Poch to convince him. I would say with options he will have from other clubs, ours could be the most promising for his career.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...-star-wilfried-zaha-and-demarai-a3495386.html

Ross Barkley willing to move to London as Tottenham track Everton star, Wilfried Zaha and Demarai Gray

Ross Barkley would be willing to join a London club in the summer if Everton decide to sell him, despite suggestions he prefers to stay in the north of England.

The England international is out of contract at the end of next season and Everton boss Ronald Koeman has indicated that if Barkley does not sign a new one before this term concludes, he is likely to be sold in the summer.

Standard Sport first revealed in December that Barkley was a prominent target for Tottenham and they have maintained their interest since. Spurs new “football committee” – comprising chairman Daniel Levy, manager Mauricio Pochettino and head of coaching John McDermott – are seeking young players with vast room for improvement, preferably with Premier League experience.

There had initially been fears that Barkley, 23, was reluctant to leave the north of England if he quit Everton. While Manchester City are thought to be following his progress, Barkley is believed to be open to moving south.

Although Pochettino has plenty of attacking players who can operate effectively behind a central striker, he would like someone who can carry the ball at pace and beat opponents.

Mousa Dembele can do that job effectively but starts in a deeper midfield position, while Moussa Sissoko, signed from Newcastle last summer for a possible £30million for that purpose, has been a huge disappointment

Both Barkley and Wilfried Zaha, the Crystal Palace winger, are on Spurs’ radar along with Burnley forward Andre Gray and Leicester attacker Demarai Gray.

 

[arunspurs]

Apart from Lamela .... who exactly is injured in our midfield ? If Barkley plays further back when Eriksen Alli and Kane play then he would replace wanyama or Dembele ? Surely if someone got injured here then Winks should be given the nod to progress him ? Secondly Dier can also play there and many people me included think he is a better DM than CB.
As you all can probably gather I am rather underwhelmed by the Barkley link

Can I just point out Poch did think there is better option at DM than Dier and he is vindicated by Wanyama this season. So, you being underwhelmed by Barkley link may again be shown to have less judgement than Poch ?

 

[t79boy]

Can I just point out Poch did think there is better option at DM than Dier and he is vindicated by Wanyama this season. So, you being underwhelmed by Barkley link may again be shown to have less judgement than Poch ?

I think the crux of it is rather us playing 3 at the back which required Dier to move positions rather than his ability as a DM

 

[t79boy]

You are asking the wrong question.

If our next desired level of our club is to win the PL, then we need a change of attitude , both within club & us fans. Barkley is not a better player than Fabregas. If Fabregas can sit in the bench & bide his time and play for the squad when asked, why not Barkley ? If we want ourself to be talked alongside Chelsea for title going forward, our mentality towards player & players mentality towards us has to change.

We have a great first XI. What we lack is next 7 players on the bench to back them up.

Winks has played in 32 games all season inspite of being bit part player. Winks has now come on so well, that atleast going forward, I see him as replacement for Dembele. Barkley if bought could potentially cover Alli, Eriksen or even Dembele.

From what I see, there is a good fit. He could play in Europe as well as PL. Whether he will accept or not is down to him & Poch to convince him. I would say with options he will have from other clubs, ours could be the most promising for his career.

Agree with the sentiment... my question posed before is still Does he improve our squad ? I dont think he is better than anyone in our squad playing the same position.... so thats why I ask why buy someone who doesnt improve our squad options

 

[arunspurs]

Agree with the sentiment... my question posed before is still Does he improve our squad ? I dont think he is better than anyone in our squad playing the same position.... so thats why I ask why buy someone who doesnt improve our squad options

Its your assertion that he is not better than what we have. We may only know that when he plays for the team.

Take Dembele & Winks for example. Most Spurs fans will probably agree or start to feel, that Winks may eventually replace Dembele in future, inspite of them being different kind of midfielders. This would have been preposterous thing to say start of the season. So was the case with Dier & Wanyama.

Thing is you never know. We never know. While Poch is not perfect in some of his acquistions, his judgement of a player & ideas for the player & his coaching ability cant be questioned. If Wanyama could replace Dier in CM in 1 year, if Winks can make a case for himself in Dembele's position in one year, why not Barkley make a case for himself next season ?

For all we know, Poch may move away from 3-4-2-1 and go back to 4-2-3-1, dropping Dier but playing Alli, Barkley, Eriksen behind Kane.

Lets wait & watch...

 

[danielneeds]

Its your assertion that he is not better than what we have. We may only know that when he plays for the team.

Take Dembele & Winks for example. Most Spurs fans will probably agree or start to feel, that Winks may eventually replace Dembele in future, inspite of them being different kind of midfielders. This would have been preposterous thing to say start of the season. So was the case with Dier & Wanyama.

Thing is you never know. We never know. While Poch is not perfect in some of his acquistions, his judgement of a player & ideas for the player & his coaching ability cant be questioned. If Wanyama could replace Dier in CM in 1 year, if Winks can make a case for himself in Dembele's position in one year, why not Barkley make a case for himself next season ?

For all we know, Poch may move away from 3-4-2-1 and go back to 4-2-3-1, dropping Dier but playing Alli, Barkley, Eriksen behind Kane.

Lets wait & watch...

At the moment Barkley has shown very little defensive awareness at Everton. His best position is higher up the pitch. In the 3-4-3, the two central midfielders have quite a lot of defensive responsibility - and I'm not sure he'd be up to that at the moment.

However, long term, if Poch could get it out of him, replacing Dembele with a similarly strong player, who can surge forward with the ball - but crucially - could weigh in with goals - would be interesting.

 

[DCSPUR]

If we get Woss Barkley and sell Sissoko, Clint, GKN that leaves us in a better spot.
As an aside, with the sale of Nabil, Poch's net spend is almost zero.

 

[arunspurs]

At the moment Barkley has shown very little defensive awareness at Everton. His best position is higher up the pitch. In the 3-4-3, the two central midfielders have quite a lot of defensive responsibility - and I'm not sure he'd be up to that at the moment.

However, long term, if Poch could get it out of him, replacing Dembele with a similarly strong player, who can surge forward with the ball - but crucially - could weigh in with goals - would be interesting.

True; Barkley's defensive quality is a worry. If Eriksen could improve defensively under Poch, guess Barkley could too. It will be a gamble but we could mask his short comings compensating else where.

 

[millsey]

I'd get maguire in as a cb.

I'd also get a schick from sampdoria. Back up striker.

And if you want a fucking winger, then Redmond over Zaha.

Barkley I could deal with.

Isco.

Redmond isn't really a winger though. Very good player though. Think poch would turn Zaha into quite some player

 

[millsey]

Agree with the sentiment... my question posed before is still Does he improve our squad ? I dont think he is better than anyone in our squad playing the same position.... so thats why I ask why buy someone who doesnt improve our squad options

Can you put a price tag on buying someone who is already better than Kane, Ali, Eriksen, Lloris, Toby ect ect? We simply can't do that and have to buy for potential to be that good. That's why a one year to go contract young English talented midfielder is high up on the list

 

[dagraham]

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...-star-wilfried-zaha-and-demarai-a3495386.html

Ross Barkley willing to move to London as Tottenham track Everton star, Wilfried Zaha and Demarai Gray

Ross Barkley would be willing to join a London club in the summer if Everton decide to sell him, despite suggestions he prefers to stay in the north of England.

The England international is out of contract at the end of next season and Everton boss Ronald Koeman has indicated that if Barkley does not sign a new one before this term concludes, he is likely to be sold in the summer.

Standard Sport first revealed in December that Barkley was a prominent target for Tottenham and they have maintained their interest since. Spurs new “football committee” – comprising chairman Daniel Levy, manager Mauricio Pochettino and head of coaching John McDermott – are seeking young players with vast room for improvement, preferably with Premier League experience.

There had initially been fears that Barkley, 23, was reluctant to leave the north of England if he quit Everton. While Manchester City are thought to be following his progress, Barkley is believed to be open to moving south.

Although Pochettino has plenty of attacking players who can operate effectively behind a central striker, he would like someone who can carry the ball at pace and beat opponents.

Mousa Dembele can do that job effectively but starts in a deeper midfield position, while Moussa Sissoko, signed from Newcastle last summer for a possible £30million for that purpose, has been a huge disappointment

Both Barkley and Wilfried Zaha, the Crystal Palace winger, are on Spurs’ radar along with Burnley forward Andre Gray and Leicester attacker Demarai Gray.

The key sentence is in bold, and if true I am delighted that Poch sees the one glaring weakness in our attack.

We don't have a single player who can do this. Playing effectively on the counter attack is one thing that we are inferior to compared to the other top teams, and a big part of this is having that particular type of player. A Hazard, Coutinho etc. Now I'm not suggesting Barkley is anywhere near that level, but he does frighten defences and he can take people on. In a way I think Poch genuinely thought he was getting that with Sissoko, but was severely misguided.

I'm still undecided whether Barkley represents masses of untapped potential or is just another massively overhyped English player, but he definitely has a skill set that we don't posses.

 

[dagraham]

At the moment Barkley has shown very little defensive awareness at Everton. His best position is higher up the pitch. In the 3-4-3, the two central midfielders have quite a lot of defensive responsibility - and I'm not sure he'd be up to that at the moment.

However, long term, if Poch could get it out of him, replacing Dembele with a similarly strong player, who can surge forward with the ball - but crucially - could weigh in with goals - would be interesting.

I honestly think if we are going to stick to three at the back, then defensive awareness isn't so crucial for our midfield. I don't mean that we can suddenly accommodate lazy players, but often attack is the best form of defence and there are times when you could throw a blanket over Wanyama, Dembele and our CB's. I often find myself crying out for Dembele to drive into the box after he's released the ball from a deeper position.

 

[beats1]

The key sentence is in bold, and if true I am delighted that Poch sees the one glaring weakness in our attack.

We don't have a single player who can do this. Playing effectively on the counter attack is one thing that we are inferior to compared to the other top teams, and a big part of this is having that particular type of player. A Hazard, Coutinho etc. Now I'm not suggesting Barkley is anywhere near that level, but he does frighten defences and he can take people on. In a way I think Poch genuinely thought he was getting that with Sissoko, but was severely misguided.

I'm still undecided whether Barkley represents masses of untapped potential or is just another massively overhyped English player, but he definitely has a skill set that we don't posses.

I have seen Barkley play since he was 17, his major weakness is that he cant get any sort of consistency

I just worry that the club is stuck in this void trying to sign players that they think will improve the squad, then find they are too raw and then not use them as much as they hoped

A player similar to Barkley is Onomah, who has been our best prospect in the academy although Barkley can actually play further forward

 

[bceej]

The key sentence is in bold, and if true I am delighted that Poch sees the one glaring weakness in our attack.

We don't have a single player who can do this. Playing effectively on the counter attack is one thing that we are inferior to compared to the other top teams, and a big part of this is having that particular type of player. A Hazard, Coutinho etc. Now I'm not suggesting Barkley is anywhere near that level, but he does frighten defences and he can take people on. In a way I think Poch genuinely thought he was getting that with Sissoko, but was severely misguided.

I'm still undecided whether Barkley represents masses of untapped potential or is just another massively overhyped English player, but he definitely has a skill set that we don't posses.

We need a player who can leave defenders on their arses. That should be a measurable attribute.

 

[dagraham]

I have seen Barkley play since he was 17, his major weakness is that he cant get any sort of consistency

I just worry that the club is stuck in this void trying to sign players that they think will improve the squad, then find they are too raw and then not use them as much as they hoped

A player similar to Barkley is Onomah, who has been our best prospect in the academy although Barkley can actually play further forward

Yeah I agree with this.

As for Onomah, I don't follow the youth team, but I've not been overly impressed with Onomah. Maybe it's because he's not being utilized correctly, but I would be far more worried as a defender facing up to Barkley than I would Onomah.

 

[nicdic]

I don't get the Barkley hype at all. Will obviously trust Poch if he thinks he's the one, but I've not seen enough to convince me we should bring him in. He's not better than what we have in the first XI and first reserves. And I'd rather be making spaces for players like Winks/Onomah/Edwards than bring someone like him in.

 

[DCSPUR]

Yeah I agree with this.

As for Onomah, I don't follow the youth team, but I've not been overly impressed with Onomah. Maybe it's because he's not being utilized correctly, but I would be far more worried as a defender facing up to Barkley than I would Onomah.

understand that our youth watchers say Onomah not being used in his best position but at some point you just need to grab the chance and do something

 

[THFCSPURS19]

I don't get the Barkley hype at all. Will obviously trust Poch if he thinks he's the one, but I've not seen enough to convince me we should bring him in. He's not better than what we have in the first XI and first reserves. And I'd rather be making spaces for players like Winks/Onomah/Edwards than bring someone like him in.

You don't think he's better than Sissoko?