Steed

[Kendall]

I do in theory, I just think it's wrong to say we need a new player IF automatically he wouldn't get into the top 4.

I'm not convinced Keane would get into the top 4 teams lineups, but I wouldn't replace him.

It just seems a funny way of writing off what players can offer imo.

 

[Evolution]

I guess it's all about opinions but again, in my eyes at least, Arsenal would love to have Keane alongside Adebayor. I think that would be a devastating combination and I personally think Keane is better then both Robin Van Persie and Eduardo so.....

 

[Berbati]

Did you ever watch Malbranque at Fulham? He was a luxury player, playing in a 5 man midfield - scoring great goals, setting up countless scoring opportunities, and being key to their attacking play.

He not only has brought that to us , but he's developed this tough-tackling, win-the-ball-back at all costs, never-say-die attitude out of absolutely nowhere.

Go to the games and watch him drive us forward. I'll tell you for one thing, the crowd will "Steeeeeeeed" more often than they "Keano" or "Dim-i-tar Berbatov" in a game. And that's because they recognise graft with ability.

To be honest most have one or the other - and to be fair, the 36,000 would give anything to play out there. There are only a handful of players in recent years that look like they give the same passion towards it:

Freund
Brown
Tainio
Keane

Those are the sort of players I love - players that are so committed it almost hurts. So forgive me for backing players that try [and get results in Steed's case!!]. Jesus wept.

Err...I think you are exaggerating here. The amount of Steed's assists in the league is poor. Attacking wise he is average. It seems that his improvement concerning his ability to defend has been at the cost of his ability to create.

 

[Berbati]

I guess it's all about opinions but again, in my eyes at least, Arsenal would love to have Keane alongside Adebayor. I think that would be a devastating combination and I personally think Keane is better then both Robin Van Persie and Eduardo so.....

Van Persie is too injury prone but ability wise he is better.

 

[yanno]

Err...I think you are exaggerating here. The amount of Steed's assists in the league is poor. Attacking wise he is average. It seems that his improvement concerning his ability to defend has been at the cost of his ability to create.

Exaggeration to one side, it is certainly true that at Fulham, Steed was the creative heart of the team. Most of us thought we were buying an exciting, flair, player. Seeing him week in, week out, I've been disappointed with the quality of Steed's first touch, which is pretty poor, whilst his passing and dribbling aren't all that.

He's worked like a trojan all season, and he has had some good attacking moments. But next season, I think he'll be sharing game time with Lennon on the right flank, and we'll get a genuine, pacy, left-footed flier in to combine with Bale & Gilberto down the left flank.

 

[Stoof]

Err...I think you are exaggerating here. The amount of Steed's assists in the league is poor. Attacking wise he is average. It seems that his improvement concerning his ability to defend has been at the cost of his ability to create.

As yanno says, I was describing his Fulham days, boss. :up: And you can extract a bit further ... "And as well as bringing that side of his game to us" - I was genuinely trying to show how he's evolved as a player.

 

[DFF]

It seems that his improvement concerning his ability to defend has been at the cost of his ability to create.

Yeah, we're really desparate for goals, aren't we. Only second behind Man U in that department. Not good enough. :-|

At a time when we need to shore up defensively so many people are enamoured with sacrificing better defensive midfielders for more offensive ones. I'd be happy to replace Steed with a more creative player, so long as they could put their foot in effectively and give 100% every game.

 

[Berbati]

Yeah, we're really desparate for goals, aren't we. Only second behind Man U in that department. Not good enough. :-|

At a time when we need to shore up defensively so many people are enamoured with sacrificing better defensive midfielders for more offensive ones. I'd be happy to replace Steed with a more creative player, so long as they could put their foot in effectively and give 100% every game.

Only second behind Man U because of Berbatov who doesn't get enough credit for sacrificing his favourite role of playing as an out and out striker in favour of bringing the other players into game and helping the team as a whole score a lot of goals. That's good for Tottenham but it's not good for him as players like Torres and Adebayor would make the PFA team of the year, and not Berbatov.

 

[ultimateloner]

I think the following type of arguments against malbranque are just ill thought

*he isn't good enough for the big 4 so he's not good enought for us*
*he isn't as creative, pacey etc so he's crap*

It's ridiculous. Against the first sort of argument - we aren't going to get anywhere near the big 4 within 5 years if the status quote is maintained. If anything I predict liverpool's going to get kicked out and a big 3 will emerge. Within the big 3. The rest of the teams will fight fiercely with man city, villa,west ham etc all willing to invest to get into UEFA every year.

Against the 2nd type of argument - look at the rest of the squad. If only everyone else is doing their job right Steed cud actually play a free role and do what he does best - shooting.

 

[PYiddy]

i never rated Steed at all.
Then the potato-faced little belgian made me eat massive handfulls of humble pie this season and i had to admit i was wrong about him.
Maybe he has been a bit off the boil of recent weeks, but me thinks there are a lot of people out there who rated him as much as i did, and are now trying to justify their initial opinion of him, because admitting you were wrong is as easy as eating human poo. Its their get-out -clause
Come on fellas!!!! the guy has been one of our sucess stories this season. why piss on his chips?

 

[DFF]

Only second behind Man U because of Berbatov who doesn't get enough credit for sacrificing his favourite role of playing as an out and out striker in favour of bringing the other players into game and helping the team as a whole score a lot of goals. That's good for Tottenham but it's not good for him as players like Torres and Adebayor would make the PFA team of the year, and not Berbatov.

And? Yes, i fully appreciate what Berbatov does and doesn't bring to our team, thanks. This is a Steed thread, though. I pulled you up on an ill thought out comment and you dive straight into one of your Berbatov rent-a-speeches.

Oh, and fuck right off trying to garner sympathy because he doesn't play in his favoured role. If anyone has an axe to grind about that, it's Steed.

 

[Kendall]

This is not Dimitar Berbatov FC

He will play in the role which offers the best for the team and like it.

 

[Berbati]

And? Yes, i fully appreciate what Berbatov does and doesn't bring to our team, thanks. This is a Steed thread, though. I pulled you up on an ill thought out comment and you dive straight into one of your Berbatov rent-a-speeches.

Oh, and fuck right off trying to garner sympathy because he doesn't play in his favoured role. If anyone has an axe to grind about that, it's Steed.

Spurs have to sort out the creativity problem as they cannot rely on a striker to do the job of the midfield in the next season. And sorting out that problem concerns Steed, too.

And Steed plays out of position because he is not good enough to play at his favourite position. Spurs aren't Fulham, are they?

 

[Berbati]

This is not Dimitar Berbatov FC

He will play in the role which offers the best for the team and like it.

Absolutely right. But IF Spurs want him at the club, they have to take into account what role he wants to play, and not to make him a midfielder at 27.

"Please, stay with us, but please link up the play because our midfielders aren't good enough." Won't happen!

 

[Kendall]

I think you're exaggerating a bit. he does create a lot and does get involved with more link up play, but so does keane, you could say it's just the way we play, they both get plenty of goals so I don't really see a problem.

 

[DFF]

Spurs have to sort out the creativity problem as they cannot rely on a striker to do the job of the midfield in the next season. And sorting out that problem concerns Steed, too.

And Steed plays out of position because he is not good enough to play at his favourite position. Spurs aren't Fulham, are they?

What is his favoured position, incidentally, Mr Dantchev? And which player is good enough to hold it down?

And why can we not rely on Berbatov to keep doing what he's doing? It's worked so far. Like Kendall said, Berbatov will fulfill the role that benefits the team most.

 

[Berbati]

I think you're exaggerating a bit. he does create a lot and does get involved with more link up play, but so does keane, you could say it's just the way we play, they both get plenty of goals so I don't really see a problem.

I shall not debate it here as this theread is for Steed. He does a good job overall but I doubt he would start next season exactly because he doesn't offer enough attacking wise.

 

[Evolution]

I think the following type of arguments against malbranque are just ill thought

*he isn't good enough for the big 4 so he's not good enought for us*
*he isn't as creative, pacey etc so he's crap*

As for your 1st point: Sorry but I disagree. Although I hate the penis envy of having to look at our squad and the other top 4's in comparison. It's a fact that they have, over time, built the strength and depth in there squads to see them through with relative consistency, season in, season out. We...do not. Is it wrong to strive for this? Obviously the answer is No. So therefore is it wrong to state that Steed maybe should be looked at more of a squad/impact player in the future and perhaps its time to bring in a natural left footer??? Again, I think not. Steed WOULD NOT be good enough to sit in left midfield for any of the top 4 and that is a FACT. I do believe however, that he could possibly be an impact player for them as I am proposing for us....Nowt wrong in that imho!!!

As for your 2nd point: Steed is creative, hard working and gives 110%. He is a good premiership player. No more, no less. Is he a left midfielder...No....Can he go passed people at pace...sometimes but generally I don't think so....Can he swing accurate left footed crosses in...No he needs to come in most times onto his right which then leads him to nine times out of ten to take a shot. This does not make him CRAP as you put. Steed is far from crap. But what it does make him and us is limited and I think we need a new option on the left!!

I see nothing wrong in this I honestly don't ? I love Steed, I love his commitment and the passion he plays with when he wears the Spurs shirt but I don't see him as number 1 on the left...that's all I'm saying!