Standard Liege/ENIC

[Delboy75]

Was going to post in ENIC thread but if this goes ahead it’s pretty significant news imo. Strong rumours ENIC to purchase Liege. People are saying as a “ feeder” club but liege are a level above that imo. One of the big 3 in Belgium historically and probably the best attended with average of 25k. This certainly wouldn’t indicate ENIC getting out of football anytime soon in fact the opposite.

 

[JimmyG2]

Was going to post in ENIC thread but if this goes ahead it’s pretty significant news imo. Strong rumours ENIC to purchase Liege. People are saying as a “ feeder” club but liege are a level above that imo. One of the big 3 in Belgium historically and probably the best attended with average of 25k. This certainly wouldn’t indicate ENIC getting out of football anytime soon in fact the opposite.

Not sure of the implications for Spurs.
That money could have been invested in Spurs
as the Twitter comments suggest.
Hardly a profit making exercise.

''To make a small fortune in football club ownership
you have to start with a large fortune.''
Unless ENIC are laundering money of course.

 

[Delboy75]

There’s probably a property angle to it as there usually is. Stadium is great but very old, been talk of upgrading it for a decade. They’ll probably knock it down build a new stadium with a hotel and flats. It’s right by a river quite scenic.

Oh look they’ve just permission to upgrade stadium and build a new commercial and entertainment centre haha.

Standard Liege given go-ahead to expand Stade Maurice Dufrasne - Inside World Football

July 1 – Belgian club Standard Liege have been given the green light by to expand their stadium capacity from 28.700 to 32.000. The Stade Maurice Dufrasne is one of the most intimidating grounds in Belgium with its steep stands. The stadium will undergo renovation and extension after Walloon...

www.insideworldfootball.com

And more detail here sounds very ENIC.

Standard Liège moving forward with stadium expansion plan

Standard Liège president Bruno Venanzi has said the Belgian First Division A football club expects to commence work next year on...

www.thestadiumbusiness.com

 

[Spurslove]

I thought no company could buy two different football clubs. Isn't that why ENIC sold all it's shares in Glasgow Rangers (and Partizan Belgrade...?) when they bought us from Alan Sugar back in 2001?

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[hellava_tough]

SL are a mainstay of the Europa League:

Standard Liège in European football - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I thought there were rules about teams with the same owner in the same competition; essentially, it's not allowed.

Both Spurs and SL could quite easily end up in the Europa League, so I'm not sure this rumour is credible...unless ENIC plan to sell Spurs.

 

[hellava_tough]

I thought no company could buy two different football clubs. Isn't that why ENIC sold all it's shares in Glasgow Rangers (and Partizan Belgrade...?) when they bought us from Alan Sugar back in 2001?

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Beat me to it...kind of

I don't think an owner can have two teams in the same competition.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Going to be funny if this goes through then we don’t buy any players in jan and are fed the “money is tight” line again.

 

[McArchibald]

It could be used to park up-and-coming talent we sign. Especially from South America or Africa - there are no rules in Belgium limiting their registration.

 

[Tucker]

It could be used to park up-and-coming talent we sign. Especially from South America or Africa - there are no rules in Belgium limiting their registration.

Yeah this seems like the obvious goal from a footballing perspective. May also help us retain talent like Noni Madueke in the future if we can say to them, “ok go and play in Belgium for two or three years, then come back to us.”

 

[Spurslove]

SL are a mainstay of the Europa League:

Standard Liège in European football - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I thought there were rules about teams with the same owner in the same competition; essentially, it's not allowed.

Both Spurs and SL could quite easily end up in the Europa League, so I'm not sure this rumour is credible...unless ENIC plan to sell Spurs.

Watch it, you'll send the entire fan-base into meltdown even suggesting it...!

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[bigfrooj]

Watch it, you'll send the entire fan-base into meltdown even suggesting it...!

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Haha, you say that but my first reaction was that this looks like an exit strategy.

 

[AustroSpur]

Beat me to it...kind of

I don't think an owner can have two teams in the same competition.

Red Bull Leipzig and Red Bull Salzburg are in this season´s CL and were in 2020/21 too.

I think the Austrian side is officially labelled "FC Salzburg" by UEFA though but both are owned by Red Bull and apparently that´s fine for UEFA

 

[whitechina]

So what does that mean if both SL and US get into EL,?
The same owner/ same competition rules?
One of the teams get promoted to CL? (or more than likely we'd be sent to the third comp again!)

 

[Gassin's finest]

It's always about property.

 

[Wsussexspur]

It's always about property.

property portfolio first… football clubs distance second priority.

 

[chrissivad]

So what does that mean if both SL and US get into EL,?
The same owner/ same competition rules?
One of the teams get promoted to CL? (or more than likely we'd be sent to the third comp again!)

Not a chance anyone gets upgraded.

The team that finished lower would have to give up the spot.
If that means drop down to the next comp or just no European football, I don't know.

I would guess that with the chance of dropping down a competition you would have to drop from CL to the Conference.

Have the 2 Red Bull teams been in the same competition?

 

[Robg75]

Not a chance anyone gets upgraded.

The team that finished lower would have to give up the spot.
If that means drop down to the next comp or just no European football, I don't know.

I would guess that with the chance of dropping down a competition you would have to drop from CL to the Conference.

Have the 2 Red Bull teams been in the same competition?

I think it is no european football. Ie only one club could be in europe.

Red bull was deemed ok, as there wasn’t a person or entity that “controlled” them both. There has to be a way around it, and no doubt they will have thought it through.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Lol, we're not getting back into CL anytime soon anyway.

 

[Marty]

Not a chance anyone gets upgraded.

The team that finished lower would have to give up the spot.
If that means drop down to the next comp or just no European football, I don't know.

I would guess that with the chance of dropping down a competition you would have to drop from CL to the Conference.

Have the 2 Red Bull teams been in the same competition?

They've even been in the same EL group once.

This is the best article I could find on the ownership business

UEFA clear RB Leipzig and Red Bull Salzburg to play in Champions League following ownership issue | FOX Sports

The two Red Bull-owned clubs will be allowed to participate simultaneously in UCL in 17/18.

www.foxsports.com

A UEFA statement read: "Following a thorough investigation, and further to several important governance and structural changes made by the clubs (regarding corporate matters, financing, personnel, sponsorship arrangements, etc.), the CFCB deemed that no individual or legal entity had anymore a decisive influence over more than one club participating in a UEFA club competition."

Which is clearly PIF/MBS levels of bullshit but it's a loophole.

 

[chrissivad]

Lol, we're not getting back into CL anytime soon anyway.

I only brought up CL as I don't think you can drop from CL into the Conference, so you wouldn't be able to face each other.

The issue would still be there for the other 2 competitions