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Spurs have most goals conceded due to errors

Greenspur

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I think we all probably knew this, but it makes interesting (if depressing) reading.

See following link for full article:
https://www.bsports.com/statsinsights/football/errors-manchester-city-chelsea-spurs-swansea?




While it’s natural that players will make errors during a match, they’re only human after all. However, these errors can make or break teams over the course of a match – potentially costing teams in terms of points, which would have a damaging effect over the course of a season.

Take Manchester City for an example of this; the club have lost five times this season and errors were the common theme over the first four. Against Cardiff (a 3-2 defeat), Aston Villa (another 3-2 defeat) and Chelsea (a 2-1 defeat) away from the Etihad Stadium, Joe Hart made costly mistakes – resulting in the keeper losing his starting spot for a few games. Furthermore, James Milner was judged by Opta to have committed an error that led to Phil Bardsley giving Sunderland a 1-0 win at the Stadium of Light in November.

In total, Manchester City players have combined to commit nine errors that have led to goals – tied with Stoke and Liverpool in this area, but trailing Tottenham’s 18:



Spurs have conceded a further nine shots due to errors – meaning that the club’s error total trails Premier League leaders Arsenal and Liverpool in this area (with 34 in total). They’ve also scored two own goals – trailing Sunderland and Fulham (with 5) in this area.

But how have teams been aided by their opponents? While Tottenham have provided many gifts to their opponents, they have not been as fortunate in terms of errors going in their favour – with just seven errors committed that have led to goals for Spurs. In comparison, Chelsea’s opponents have committed 18 errors that have led to goals – and another 16 that have led to shots.

Everton and Swansea have been the least fortunate in this area – with just three errors committed that have led to goals for the sides; however Swansea have a clear lead in another area. Of the 45 goals scored by the Swans this season, eight of them were scored by their opponents (17.8%) – more than double the amount of own goals that have gone in the favour of other clubs (as Liverpool and Manchester City’s opponents have scored four own goals each):

 

avonspurs

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We are top of the league, we are top of the league!!! Yay!!!!

Seriously, though, the second club isn't even close to us. It's downright embarrassing and wrong.
 

THFCSPURS19

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What's interesting about that is, unlike most teams, most of our errors lead to goals instead of shots that don't go in.

That I put down to bad luck but it's the players fault in the first place.
 

Dirty Ewok

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What's interesting about that is, unlike most teams, most of our errors lead to goals instead of shots that don't go in.

That I put down to bad luck but it's the players fault in the first place.

Keep in mind that we seem to have made more mistakes in games against the top teams so instead of missed shots we get smashed.

Then again we also let up that goal to Cattermole.....seems that when we make a mistake we set up our opponents perfectly.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Not all of them have been deadly, though. For instance Arsenal away in September obviously was, as were the errors at home vs. ManU. But for instance a couple of the personal mistakes vs. ManC were not lethal since we would have lost anyway. Game changing personal errors have lost us 9 points, enough to put us above Arsenal.
 

0-Tibsy-0

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Although some individual errors can also be a consequence of tactics,structure,team selection too, or even just the basic instructions given or training/coaching drills done through out the week.
 

Legend10

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Although some individual errors can also be a consequence of tactics,structure,team selection too, or even just the basic instructions given or training/coaching drills done through out the week.


Are the players allowed to take responsibility for anything?
 

Macspur261

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Although some individual errors can also be a consequence of tactics,structure,team selection too, or even just the basic instructions given or training/coaching drills done through out the week.


Said it before, chopping and changing the back 4 all season will never lead to many clean sheets, and having a couple of injury prone defenders in Rose and Kaboul will never lead to a settled back 4.

The one good thing is though that I doubt the individual errors are down to a lack of ability, which means they can be cured by good coaching.
 

Spurvert

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What's interesting about that is, unlike most teams, most of our errors lead to goals instead of shots that don't go in.

That I put down to bad luck but it's the players fault in the first place.

Or where the errors are being committed in the first place, i.e back line, directly in front of goal?
 

chrissivad

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Said it before, chopping and changing the back 4 all season will never lead to many clean sheets, and having a couple of injury prone defenders in Rose and Kaboul will never lead to a settled back 4.

The one good thing is though that I doubt the individual errors are down to a lack of ability, which means they can be cured by good coaching.


its not just the back 4, but i do agree with you that if we could have a settled back 4 we wouldnt see so many errors.

We dont seem to have anyone in CM that is always willing to drop back and pick the ball up from the defenders, and when teams press high up the pitch our defenders seem to panic and play someone into trouble, or just play it to one of the positions.

On Monday Ade was playing this position at times where he was dropping deep, picking the ball up, moving it forward and then he would get forward. Great work rate from him, but he shouldn't need to be doing this.
 

Black

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Tim sherwoods fault personally, I pretty sure I've seen him with him green laser in the upper stands pointing. Why do you think he goes up there so much.
 

LeSoupeKitchen

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Keep in mind that we seem to have made more mistakes in games against the top teams so instead of missed shots we get smashed.

Then again we also let up that goal to Cattermole.....seems that when we make a mistake we set up our opponents perfectly.

Exactly. If they further rated our errors on how embarrassingly awful they were and easy to score from then I think we would extend our lead.
 

idontgetit

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Jesus fuck by a long way as well. Why are Chelsea benefiting from so many errors????
 

$hoguN

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It is the lack of any sort of structure or tactics that has led to us conceding like this so much recently.
 

0-Tibsy-0

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It is the lack of any sort of structure or tactics that has led to us conceding like this so much recently.

That's what I was saying further up as an excuse for some (not all) errors. Apparently according to some you can only blame the player while ignoring any other variables though...
 

$hoguN

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That's what I was saying further up as an excuse for some (not all) errors. Apparently according to some you can only blame the player while ignoring any other variables though...

The point is that in football there are far more team errors than individual errors. Yes you cannot blame anyone but Walker for his heinous error against Liverpool last season, and of course you cannot blame anyone for some of Naughton and Rose's antics, but in general several players have to take their share of blame in goals. Take the Chirches clanger against Sunderland, yes the sideways ball was almost fixing but Lloris should have smashed it away earlier. The same can be said for many goals. Another example is Sandro's poor ball to Rose which cost us a goal against Arsenal, if we were more tactically adept than Sandro wouldn't have been that far up or if he was the other midfielder would have been in a position to get across to stop Rosicky bursting through (don't even start me going about Rose there either).
 
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