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Spurs and VAR

fecka

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Is VAR for clear and obvious errors still? 4 minutes is not in any way clear and obvious...
Clear and obvious is currently only for non-offside calls. In the current laws of the game, you're either onside or offside, hence why they're drawing lines on the millimeter.
 

dannyo

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I don’t know how others feel about The View from the Lane podcast but they discuss this VAR bullshit in their latest episode.

I personally really enjoy the podcast and find myself agreeing with a lot of what they say. I think they’re so right about the fact that people will stop going to matches because 1) It kills any enjoyment of celebrating goals and 2) You know far more about what’s going on watching on TV than you do in the stadium. It can’t be right.

They’ve gone too far with their delight at disallowing goals for any number of minute reasons, while referees still continue to allow teams to time waste and never add anything like a reasonable amount of added time. People who pay money to go and watch PL or CL football are getting ripped off by this whole system.
 

beats1

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Thread basically says UEFA used two systems to find that Kane was offside, Hawkeye(back up system) and their new one, to determine Kane was in front of defender and then Hawk eye to determine he was in front of Ball
 
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ralvy

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Thread basically says UEFA used two systems to find that Kane was offside, Hawkeye(back up system) and their new one, to determine Kane was in front of defender and then Hawk eye to determine he was in front of Ball


What a BS explanation. In that picture used, why is that line being drawn from Emerson's head and not from the ball? You can't even see the ball actually. Is that really supposed to be the smoking gun evidence?
 

SlotBadger

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I have seen today’s “foul” for the penalty from 4 angles, numerous times each, and I can’t see a single point of contact on any part of the body.

Why was the referee not asked to view it on the monitor?
 

ziggy

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Think our shout for a pen that it turned down was iffy too, one angle no pen the other it looked like his arm went towards the ball
 

Nynorsk

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I have seen today’s “foul” for the penalty from 4 angles, numerous times each, and I can’t see a single point of contact on any part of the body.

Why was the referee not asked to view it on the monitor?

Watch closely on the knee. Pretty clear contact.
 

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ChaoticBeaver

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We should be beating teams like Southampton comfortably and not having to worry about rubbish decisions from the ref/var but if anything thats a foul from the Southampton player. He’s essentially done a flying kick from the side to get a tap on the ball, he’s not making an attempt on goal, Sarr would have no idea he’s there and is not part of the challenge it’s definitely not a foul.
 

ChaoticBeaver

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That’s a foul, if it had been the other way around we would expect it to be given.
So maybe fans are part of the problem, that challenge shouldn’t lead to a penalty, its a nothing moment. Player going away from goal, gets a slight touch in by launching himself in-front of the defending player trying to clear his lines.

If Sarr had seen the player and kicked him while trying to clear then obviously thats fine as a poorly timed challenge but this is just the Saints player buying a foul.
 

spurs9

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In fairness we got something very similar in Anfield on Lamela.
Not really, 1) there was clearly contact on Lamela, 2) Lamela was between VVD and the ball.

In yesterday's example, the Southampton player is behind Sarr and flings himself in front of Sarr, in what I assume, was an attempt to block Sarr's clearance.

If anything it was a high boot/dangerous play by the Southampton player.
 

guiltyparty

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Think if it was an independent ruling, it’s probably no penalty. But once it’s been given, there has to be strong evidence to overturn and I think it looks reckless enough that makes it hard to do. Wasn’t surprised it wasn’t reversed
 

mr ashley

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I think what makes it hard to understand is the analysis.
for example, the penalty wolves were denied was much more clear cut in terms of contact, yet pundits say it’s not enough for a penalty in their opinions.
Sarr barely brushes mainland-miles and there isn’t even a discussion to review it.
As always there’s such inconsistency and a lack of transparency
 
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