Spurs and the Olympic Stadium - post-grad Architecture project

[Pedro]

Hi guys

I’m a postgraduate Architecture student in my final (6th) year and I am doing a project looking at the London Olympics. I will be designing new alternative theoretical options for the design of the master plan and look into uses of the site once the games have finished. I remember there was talk of us possibly moving to the Olympic stadium after the games, similar to the situation with Man City and the Commonwealth games stadium.

One possible option I would like to look at is Spurs moving to this ground. I would like to know some of your opinions on this, is the site an acceptable location? Would you be willing to travel there? Bare in mind that in theory this could be a much better stadium than any we could get if started from scratch (for the money, since we would get at a cut price), and it would be adapted to suit football from the initial designs (i.e. moving the stands closer to the pitch, getting rid of the running track).

I remember a few months back there was talk of leaked stadium plans, sections etc. I was wondering if anyone saved a copy of them? It would be very helpful in assessing the feasibility of this idea.

I may not go ahead with this idea if I find it inappropriate, I haven’t started looking into the idea yet, and I may decide on different future use for the stadium. However your views and the stadium drawings will help greatly in deciding whether to go ahead with this idea. It’s a great excuse to mix work with pleasure, would be so much fun designing a stadium for mighty yids!

Thanks in advance guys.

And if anyone has any info about the plans etc can you pm me. Cheers.

 

[shelfmonkey]

A stadium with a running track?:duh: NO THANKS !!! The atmosphere would be worse than the Cashburden Bog.

 

[chrissivad]

One possible option I would like to look at is Spurs moving to this ground. I would like to know some of your opinions on this, is the site an acceptable location? Would you be willing to travel there? Bare in mind that in theory this could be a much better stadium than any we could get if started from scratch (for the money, since we would get at a cut price), and it would be adapted to suit football from the initial designs (i.e. moving the stands closer to the pitch, getting rid of the running track).

. Cheers.

Is this what your design will be? because im sure they want to keep it an Athletics stadium so wont get rid of the track

 

[jondesouza]

LOCOG and the ODA have stated that they might be open to offers so a football club moving to the Olympic Vol-Au-Vent isn't out of the question. If this were to happen changes could be made to the legacy design.

 

[tylaw]

I did my dissertation on the London Olympics, it was in a proper subject though - not 'drawing'.

 

[Pedro]

it would be adapted to suit football from the initial designs (i.e. moving the stands closer to the pitch, getting rid of the running track).

A stadium with a running track?:duh: NO THANKS !!! The atmosphere would be worse than the Cashburden Bog.

why don't you read the post before you take the piss
:duh:

 

[Pedro]

Is this what your design will be? because im sure they want to keep it an Athletics stadium so wont get rid of the track

yes bet their design is shite. It fails to look at the future use of the site as a piece of town. This is a theoretical design for me to flex my design muscles, and as a yid i would prefer designing a stadium for spurs than permanantly for athletics. I find the future use as an athletics venue as unsustainable anyhow, but like I said it is only something I am considering.

 

[Pedro]

LOCOG and the ODA have stated that they might be open to offers so a football club moving to the Olympic Vol-Au-Vent isn't out of the question. If this were to happen changes could be made to the legacy design.

Any idea why we did follow up on our interest? I though they considered a proposal from us and west ham i think, but decided it should be drastically downsized and used soley for athletics in the future.

 

[General Levy]

A stadium with a running track?:duh: NO THANKS !!! The atmosphere would be worse than the Cashburden Bog.

The running tracks are portable at modern stadias.:wink:

And I would jump at the idea of playing in a 80k stadium. But it isn't going to happen as the top two tiers are being made so that after the games they are easily disposable - no toilets or refreshments etc. And Leyton Orient will be the new tenants.

 

[nightgoat]

yes bet their design is shite. It fails to look at the future use of the site as a piece of town. This is a theoretical design for me to flex my design muscles, and as a yid i would prefer designing a stadium for spurs than permanantly for athletics. I find the future use as an athletics venue as unsustainable anyhow, but like I said it is only something I am considering.

But one of the conditions of the Olympic Stadium post-Olympics, be it their design, your design, whatever, is that it has to have an athletics track as part of the 'legacy'...

Promises like these made to the IOC were what got us the Olympics in the first place, so however you approach it, if you want to keep an element of realism to it you're going to have to include one...

 

[Lilbaz]

It is only theory!

Would love it, they could use the money to upgrade Crystal Palace. How much capacity do you think it will be reduced by removing the track and bringing the stands in?
Travel would be great 10 mins from Camden for me rather than an hour to the Lane.
Would be sad to leave the Lane, but would much prefer playing Barca at Stratford than Leyton O at the Lane.
If you do go for it post your designs on here, good luck.

 

[Lilbaz]

Another thought is coorporate boxes. Does the Stratford stadium have any? I know the scum earn more money from their boxes alone than they did for the whole of Highbury. If there aren't any it would be a none starter.

 

[General Levy]

Another thought is coorporate boxes. Does the Stratford stadium have any? I know the scum earn more money from their boxes alone than they did for the whole of Highbury. If there aren't any it would be a none starter.

The upper tiers wont even have restrooms or food outlets.

 

[g_harry]

I think you will find it very hard to pass your final year with a stadium design. Have you discussed this with your tutor?

 

[kremlyn]

Olympic Hotspurs. It has a ring to it. 5, in fact!

I'm not partizan about the location but certain considerations do have to be acknowledged.
1) it must seat 60,000

2) it cannot have a running track

3) It has to be easily accessed from our traditional supporting areas - I.e the North and East of London.

4) It must be iconically linked to Spurs in the design.

I just don't think the olympic stadium or it's location can do this. I suspect it'll be shoddily built, only accessed by the jubilee line which is no good for our supporters and there are too many clauses in the olympic brief to get past.

 

[Stoof]

I would like to know some of your opinions on this, is the site an acceptable location?

From a personal point of view, the location is absolutely ideal. I'm on the eastern side of the Central Line (as a lot of Essex Spurs fans are) and this would be, what, 6 stops - 15 minutes away.

Stratford also has links into Essex as far as Southend, and has regular trains through to Brentwood/Chelmsford/Shenfield.

It has a quick Liverpool Street service too. Quicker than to WHL. 5 minutes??

It also has DLR and Jubilee lines and the newly baptised London Overground (shut until 2010!!).

Those saying it has poor transport links are talking out of bottoms; and really don't know the area.

It's basically a bus depot too, there's loads of good transport links (although the roads get a tad busy) and with the extension plans that were in the Press a couple of months ago, it would be a much more accessible place in general. (I believe).

Would you be willing to travel there?

Hell yes.

Bare in mind that in theory this could be a much better stadium than any we could get if started from scratch (for the money, since we would get at a cut price), and it would be adapted to suit football from the initial designs (i.e. moving the stands closer to the pitch, getting rid of the running track).

Agreed - there would have to be changes to the overall design (as you suggest) - the running track would have to go, as suggested by others that it just completely dims any atmosphere the Yid Army creates.

Obviously you're the architect bod, so I expect you'd have to think of other design issues - but from a logistical/infrastructure point of view it's 100 times what Tottenham is.

Hope that helps mate.

 

[General Levy]

The running track would be removable like at Stade De France

 

[SpurSince57]

Stoof, you've missed one vital point.

Pubs, kebab joints, burgers, Chickin Lickin.

 

[montylynch]

Pedro, I work at the Government Olympic Executive at the DCMS. Any questions you may have about 2012 i'd be happy to try and answer them for you.

Regarding the transport links, it also has the new CTRL from St Pancras into europe. New Stratford Market and Stratford City stations on the DLR are being built. Straford station itself is having a major overhaul, new platforms, easier access and a better DLR terminus which is almost finished.

Regarding new tenants for the stadium in legacy mode, no concrete decision has yet to be made. There were three footie teams in the running, us West Ham and Orient. Ken is totally against us or west ham taking it, purely for the fact that if we did we would demand that it stays at 60,000+. If Orient move in, they would happily take a 25,000 stadium with a running track. West Ham already have plans to build a new stadium on the site of the post office depot at West Ham Station.

As i said, any questions you may have Pedro, i'l be happy to try and answer them.

 

[Stoof]

Stoof, you've missed one vital point.

Pubs, kebab joints, burgers, Chickin Lickin.

Assuming your tongue is most well-and-truly wedged into one's cheek, the burger vans are mostly on wheels. There's loads of fake chicken establishments in that neck of the woods.

As for pubs, I've never really gone out in Stratford for a drink, but surely those things spring up like no tomorrow anyway?

:razz: