Great observation!The problem I'm noticing is since Perisic has come into the team Son hasn't been at his best. I wonder if there is an issue with them making the same runs or crowding each other?
Then I look at the RW and think Spence would 100% invade Dekis space on the pitch with his marauding runs forward down the line. Emerson and Doherty less so because they do come inside a fair bit.
Just an observation
Everyone knows this, you don't have some special insight.To back up my point. Today only 3/7 of the favourites won their CL tie. Those were; Inter, who played the worst club in the competition; Bayern; and Liverpool, who won through a late goal. Not a single favourite won a tie away from home.
The biggest shock wasn't Sporting beating us, but the crazy game were Porto lost 4-0 at home against club brugge. Which has to be one of the craziest score lines in the competition for a long time.
Furthermore, Leverkusen beat Atletico Madrid. Atletico have had a reasonable start to the season, losing against Villarreal and drawing against Real Sociedad are not unexpected results and were they sit on the table is more a reflection of a harder start than most rather than anything more. Leverkusen are in the relegation zone. I would say that is much more a surprising result.
Frankfurt v Marseille is a little bit of a shock as Marseille are playing well this season and were at home, but they are fairly evenly matched teams so not a great suprise.
The point is, it's not that surprising we lost the match today. It's just the CL. Welcome back. The only time we haven't had these kind of results in the CL was the second Poch season, were we were the best team in the tournament in the group stage, only to then go out in the last 16. But generally these sorts of things happen, particularly when away from home.
Great postTo back up my point. Today only 3/7 of the favourites won their CL tie. Those were; Inter, who played the worst club in the competition; Bayern; and Liverpool, who won through a late goal. Not a single favourite won a tie away from home.
The biggest shock wasn't Sporting beating us, but the crazy game were Porto lost 4-0 at home against club brugge. Which has to be one of the craziest score lines in the competition for a long time.
Furthermore, Leverkusen beat Atletico Madrid. Atletico have had a reasonable start to the season, losing against Villarreal and drawing against Real Sociedad are not unexpected results and were they sit on the table is more a reflection of a harder start than most rather than anything more. Leverkusen are in the relegation zone. I would say that is much more a surprising result.
Frankfurt v Marseille is a little bit of a shock as Marseille are playing well this season and were at home, but they are fairly evenly matched teams so not a great suprise.
The point is, it's not that surprising we lost the match today. It's just the CL. Welcome back. The only time we haven't had these kind of results in the CL was the second Poch season, were we were the best team in the tournament in the group stage, only to then go out in the last 16. But generally these sorts of things happen, particularly when away from home.
Leicester haven’t won atall this season and only hve a point, I think dr Tottenham will be rearing it’s head! 1-1.If I’m honest I’m glad this wake up call came in this game and not the league. We have enough games to still qualify and top the group.
I want us to really make some headway with the league. Liverpool look off it this season, we could really make a challenge.
Big bounce back against Leicester on Saturday needed
It's not a special insight. I write as much bullshit as everyone else. It's just stating something obvious. But forget the post match moan, it's the pre-match confidence that irritated me. And if people come into these games thinking it's an easy win it's logical that they would overreact to loses.Everyone knows this, you don't have some special insight.
For most it's cathartic to have a moan after a bad performance.
Don't take it so seriously.
Maybe not with this group, but I was half expecting us to go out at this stage anyway. The squad isn't quite there to compete in it imo. Even if we get through I think we'll be out the round after.We will need to win our home games and beat Frankfurt away. We probably had to do that anyway but the problem with our group is that everyone is beating everyone, so there's no margin for error.
One thing is for sure, unless we improve our away form in Europe immediately we can forget about the CL. 6 away defeats in a row is piss poor.
But then at that point it hardly makes a difference to concede two, therefore it's always more likely. If you are pushing for an equaliser, particularly with little time left you are going to be very exposed. It would be idiocy of the extreme to have much of a care at all if they get a second.To cocede one goal in stoppage time may be regarded as misfortune
To concede two looks like carelessness. (Oscar Wilde)
Poor show all round staff and management.
We will need to win our home games and beat Frankfurt away. We probably had to do that anyway but the problem with our group is that everyone is beating everyone, so there's no margin for error.
One thing is for sure, unless we improve our away form in Europe immediately we can forget about the CL. 6 away defeats in a row is piss poor.
Our squad is not quite there to compete with the likes of Sporting? Do they have a single player in their team who’s better than Kane, Son, Richy or Deki? Is any of their midfield better than Bentancur or Bissouma? Do they have a better defender than Romero?Maybe not with this group, but I was half expecting us to go out at this stage anyway. The squad isn't quite there to compete in it imo. Even if we get through I think we'll be out the round after.
Everyone beating everyone is only bad for us if we care about the Europa League. If everyone is beating everyone then we need less points to get through the group.We will need to win our home games and beat Frankfurt away. We probably had to do that anyway but the problem with our group is that everyone is beating everyone, so there's no margin for error.
One thing is for sure, unless we improve our away form in Europe immediately we can forget about the CL. 6 away defeats in a row is piss poor.
This was the cure ..
Everyone beating everyone is only bad for us if we care about the Europa League. If everyone is beating everyone then we need less points to get through the group.
For what it's worth I think Sporting and us are still favourites to qualify, and suspect that they will do Marseille too. I think Marseille are pretty blunt going forwards and suspect they might even finish bottom, Frankfurt can batter teams on their day and can beat anyone on their day but are far too inconsistent. We are second in the group as it is, but we are hardly in a worrying situation.
Losing against your biggest rival away is not unusual and nothing to seriously worry about. When we reached the CL final we had 2 points in the first 3. That's when it gets seriously worrying. I'm this group 9 points will be enough to qualify us.
That is true but unless the team improves we could be out.No we're not. Plenty of points to play for.
I assume you are writting this from A & EI've shaved my head I'm so angry.
Was bald to start with tbf.
They should be considering the pre season fitness regime.After the end of last season and the summer under Conte I just can't get my head around how so many of our elite players can be so out of form.
It's bonkers.
They should be flying.