Roy Hodgson for England

[DHMadboy]

name an english starting 11, not including rio or anyone in the current england squad, and i bet hodgson could get them to beat the current england team. it's not about star players, its about getting them to play as a team, something capello cant do, his selection, tactics, subs and motivation are all seriously lacking as people are saying johnson is pushing lennon either too far up the pitch, or in, and it doesn't work, on the left we had gerrard who doesn't support cole at all, so he gets pushed back, we havent got anyone who can spray the ball about now carricks injured, so all our attacks come from up the middle or slightly to the right, we have no movement so when players get the ball they are normally stood still, when lennon and cole have made a run, lampard and gerrard dont pick them out until they've stopped, hopeless. plus i have this horrible feeling if he uses joe cole on wednesday, it'll be in replace of lennon.

he needs to grow some balls and drop the players not performing, or don't fit in the system.

james
carragher dawson terry cole
lennon carrick/gerrard barry milner/cole
defoe crouch

carrick would be perfect to move the ball around quickly, unfortunately hes injured so gerrard would have to just push forward with barry covering.
carragher would help lennons game, so we have a decent threat from the right, milner or j.cole would be able to cut in and attack, but they will help a.cole defensively, plus a.cole is great attacking on the overlap.
with defoe you have the pace to support the attack from left or right, plus pushing forward to create space for gerrard, then they can also target crouch, as he just creates mayhem with all defenders, and can bring the other attackers in to play. plus you have rooney to come on in the second half when the defenders are tiring.

and the 11 that could beat the current england team under hodgson

robinson
l.young shawcross turner baines
a.young parker huddlestone johnson
cole agbonlahor

well england are playing seriously bad before you start laughing

 

[Dan Ashcroft]

Woo hoo, yeah, lets sack the best manager in the world, who has won more things over the last 20 years than anyone in football, because he's drawn two matches.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Woo hoo, yeah, lets sack the best manager in the world, who has won more things over the last 20 years than anyone in football, because he's drawn two matches.

How about sacking him because, despite having won so much, he's done a shit job with England. Gerrard is not a left winger, Lampard cannot play CM in a 442 (neither can Gerrard) and Barry isn't international class by a long chalk.


Personally I think England should appoint Sam Allardyce. he's the best man for a job. A manager that has no ambition to play football managing one of the few teams left in the world - other than Greece - who genuinely believe they can win a WC without having any ambition to do it playing football.

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

From a very narrow Spurs perspective I really hope Capello stays because if England fire him there has to be a real possibility that Citeh will hire him to replace Mancini and whatever you think about him as an international manager there can be no doubting his credentials as a club manager. The prospect of him as manager of Citeh with the oil money is very scary so let's hope it doesn't happen.

 

[MR_BEN]

meh... boring.

Done a shit job with england? erm...we won all but one of our qualifying games. The players are to blame for this shambles of a world cup - not the manager!

Theres too much focus on Rooney.

Anyway..whats this got to do with spurs?

 

[Wsussexspur]

I agree sack him. He is one of the best in the world! However in the past 6 weeks he has made so many mistakes. For a manger who earns £6 million a year alot of these mistakes are unacceptable. His position as manager in my view will be completely untenable if he cannot get England through this group. Yes we did brilliantly qualifying for the world cup however in that group we should have qualified easily enough which is what we did. I don't just hold cappello to blame for what is going on at the world cup I think the players are equally to blame as well.

 

[tototoner]

Capello is too strict, arrogant and stubborn to be a top tournament manager.

In a league situation like the qualifiers or the major leagues in Europe when he sees the players sporadically his methods work but they look to be backfiring now when he has the players for so long together. Thats my opinion of the situation anyway.

Harry Redknapp would be an ideal tournament manager because of his relaxed - fun style of training and ambience.

 

[Dan Ashcroft]

Capello is too strict, arrogant and stubborn to be a top tournament manager.

In a league situation like the qualifiers or the major leagues in Europe when he sees the players sporadically his methods work but they look to be backfiring now when he has the players for so long together. Thats my opinion of the situation anyway.

Harry Redknapp would be an ideal tournament manager because of his relaxed - fun style of training and ambience.

Or maybe the spice boy players are the disease and they are foolishly battling the only cure to our perenial underachievement.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

How about sacking him because, despite having won so much, he's done a shit job with England.

He's done a shit job with England? Well that never cropped up until the last two games did it? And even then we can thank Rob Green and not Capello for our not already having won a game.

Every England manager there has ever been and ever will be, will make selections that people don't agree with, Capello certainly has but all this shit job for England stuff is bollocks driven by one and a half crap performances and a goalkeeping howler over his tenure as England manager.

Where was all this fuss a month ago? Where were all the Capello doubters two weeks ago? Where was the fuss about not naming his starting line up until two hours before kick off? Fucking nowhere, that's where. Then the players perform like sacks of shit and surprise surprise, these little snidey complaints start leaking out, despite it having worked just fine previously.

IMO Capello has made mistakes but not ones that scream out that he's been shit for us. My finger points more at some of the players rather than the manager on this one. And you can eeny meeny mynie mow which player has been worst.

If you want to award a who did a 'shit job with England' prize, give it to someone more deserving, like Steve McLaren.

 

[nailsy]

This reminds me of the sack Harry thread a few months ago. How about we give Capello until the end of the tournament until we sack him? He couldn't have done any better in the qualifiers and this tournament is only two games old. The first game is always a let down, but we would of won if Rob Green hadn't let in a pearoller. The Algeria game was massively disappointing but for me his reaction to that display will be the key to his success as England manager.

 

[michaelden]

Players have been shite not Capello. Man up and stop blaming Johnny Foreigner. Capello didn't tell Green to fumble. Capello can't make Rooney, heskey, DEfoe, Lampard, Gerrard or Crouch score. They are meant to do that bit themselves.

 

[mattyspurs]

Italy, Spain, France and Germany are not guaranteed to go through yet either. Shall we sack all of there managers too. (Ok, France not a good example, but you get my drift!)


This is a funny old world cup, this one, anything can happen

 

[mattyspurs]

Players have been shite not Capello. Man up and stop blaming Johnny Foreigner. Capello didn't tell Green to fumble. Capello can't make Rooney, heskey, DEfoe, Lampard, Gerrard or Crouch score. They are meant to do that bit themselves.

To be fair, those two have only had about 25 mins combined between the pair of them, but the rest I agree with :grin:

 

[tototoner]

Or maybe the spice boy players are the disease and they are foolishly battling the only cure to our perenial underachievement.

I agree , spoilt brats who are outside their comfort zone

 

[Raxscallion]

Or maybe the spice boy players are the disease and they are foolishly battling the only cure to our perenial underachievement.

The 'cure' doesn't appear to have the balls to drop them.

 

[spursman85]

McClaren was criticised for being too 'pally' and relaxed with the players, now Capello is too strict, why is it always the manager who gets the stick?? It's the damn players!
Players like Terry and Lampard have too much power at their own club and look to carry that into international football. When they hear something they don't like they storm off in a huff.

 

[DHMadboy]

so where are the people now who said capello was a good manager for england, he was hopeless today.

rooney has been shite all tournament he's looked uninterested and hasn't even had the hunger, at no point has anyone had to tell him to calm down, but capello stuck with him, even taking defoe off instead of him to bring on heskey of all people.

gerrard cannot stick to the left wing, so why make him do it, put him in the centre with barry.

and taking off our only decent threat in milner for joe cole, who is so overrated.

the team for today should have always been

james
carragher terry king cole
lennon gerrard barry milner
defoe crouch

i can understand him sticking with upson as he made no mistakes against slovenia. but it just proved today how poor he is.

also i feel swp and lennon have been vindicated of being poor on the right, milners best game was when gerrard stuck to the left wing, spreading the defence out and leaving space for milner to manauver, but as today proved milner struggled just as much when gerrard didn't hold position and we become very crowded in the attacking right side of the pitch.

i'm just glad there weren't any spurs players on the pitch at the end of the match.

 

[KingKay]

I feel sick, dont mean to get at the manager but capello has made some horendous mistakes, as ive said all along we need an english man

 

[myhartlane]

Or a Scotsman. Perhaps it's time Alex Ferguson was forced at gunpoint to take the England job!

Seriuosly though, we do however need a 'root and branch' reform of the English game. For starters, here are a few things that they have done in germany which seem to have worked:
Smaller premier league
Cap on foreign players
Winter break

Also, I wonder if we need to think differently about the way that we recruit the head coach. Cherry picking elite managers and throwing money at them just doesn't work.

I can't believe I'm saying this but, how about...Stuart Pearce taking the job with a focus on rebuilding the team around young players like (Jurgen began) and Low has continued with Germany.

I never want to see Lampard and Terry in an England shirt again.

 

[thfc1989]

Woo hoo, yeah, lets sack the best manager in the world, who has won more things over the last 20 years than anyone in football, because he's drawn two matches.

Oh shut up Dan, anyone with any sense has seen the signs for a long time that Capello was never the man for the job. Here is my rant about Capello:

Two wins over Croatia in qualifying disguised the fact that we are the same team we were under Steve McClaren. In Croatia we scored three out of four goals when they were down to ten men, and their team at Wembley was missing their three best players.

You played our three most productive players out of position, Gerrard on the left, Lampard effectively as a holding mid and Rooney too deep. It’s not rocket science. Look at what they achieve for their clubs, and build a system to suit your best players.

You’ve persisted with Heskey and SWP. All you have to do each weekend is watch Premiership football. Heskey didn't score 5 goals all season and SWP doesn't actually play for his club.

For all the discipline you’ve instilled in the squad, you haven’t changed the way we play football. Spain, Brazil, Argentina, Holland and Germany play the ball on the floor to feet and we don't. Beckenbauer was right, we play kick and rush football.

Gareth Barry is not an international class player, nor is he capable of playing the midfield destroyer role you wanted him to. Spain embarassed him in a friendly and Ozil embarassed him today. He is a nothing player who is very good at playing the ball sideways.

The writing has been on the wall – pathetic displays against France, Spain, Brazil and Holland in friendlies, Mexico and Japan in the warm up to the world cup, so this isn’t actually that big a surprise. You fooled the papers who wanted to believe we were genuine contenders and the FA who gave you another two years for taking us out of a mickey mouse qualifying group.

You’ve been paid six million a year and can happily walk away but you’ve ruined my World Cup and I hate you.