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Streetspur77

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If it happened last Monday how come no one reported it till now?

Seems a bit fishy it breaks on the same day as the sigurdsson deal goes through and therefore Barkley would be set to move

Also no itk, including trix who seems pretty close to the deal, knew anything about this

Until it comes from somewhere that's not that scummy rag I will not believe it
 

jay2040

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Hamstring injuries are frustrating because if you're in good shape and stretch properly you should avoid them.

Can't help but think this wouldn't have happened if we'd have already signed him because Poch and the team have a great muscular injury track record. They're known to do a lot of work on the glutes and thighs to avoid such injuries.

Visions akin to that in Karate Kid where Poch is Miyagi! and rose is waxing the cars!!
 

arunspurs

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If Poch really wanted him before, we should take the risk of injury & buy him. Hamstring injury can be recovered from.
3 months flies fast.
 

the lad

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Hamstring injuries are frustrating because if you're in good shape and stretch properly you should avoid them.

Can't help but think this wouldn't have happened if we'd have already signed him because Poch and the team have a great muscular injury track record. They're known to do a lot of work on the glutes and thighs to avoid such injuries.
You have hit the nail on the head. I expected us to make a move as soon as he came back from the other injury he suffered 4 weeks ago. Preparation prevents piss poor performance. We need to add to our squad!
 

Sandros Shiny Head

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Its all a bit strange really. He had the groin surgery which was supposed to keep him out for 4 weeks, but then seems to have been back in training to tear his hamstring less than 3 weeks later and we're only hearing about it 9 days after that?
 

stewartd

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Poor sod feel sorry for him whatever happens.
Hope he recovers soon and we sign him.
Must be going through turmoil now.
 

SpartanSpur

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Appreciate that Trix is getting good info but now they are going down the 3 months route that would look pretty ridiculous on everyone involved if he recovered in 3-4 weeks.
 

Streetspur77

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Whats your suspicion? All opinion at this stage but struggling to see how an injury benefits anyone. Unless, it saves face when everton sell him cheap and then we mysteriously decide against surgery. But seems a stretch.

Unless everton were just pissing us about a bit longer.

I don't really have a theory just seems very odd that no one would know about this for a week
 

Scott Spur

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I'm with Pink on this one......the Daily Mail has gone with a story presumably worst case scenario (no way right?), Everton have confirmed further scans and Trix has said he's heard it's not as bad as reported......

Meanwhile here, 2+2= leg sawn off :cautious:
 

Krule

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My personal view is that we look at this cold hearted and realistically...do we want to buy someone who is currently injured and, according to this link, the full extent of which is not yet known..?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40952115
If I were Levy I would walk away from the deal and look elsewhere....let Koeman have the problem. Hard hearted maybe but my concern is for the future of Tottenham not Ross Barkley and we need to buy someone fit and available now. I do feel sorry for the lad but there's no room for sentiment or sympathy when you are having to spend tens of millions of pounds on players in order to improve the squad. This saga has dragged on for long enough.
 

S17PUR

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I've suffered a grade 3 hamstring tear and I still wasn't right 9 months later. Obviously I'm not a professional athlete so 3 months is probably reasonable with the correct care, if this is true. In my case at least, the hamstring is more or less permanently weakened, so the chance of future hamstring injuries is likely to increase.

Don't really want to visit the Daily Mail so don't know if there are any pictures or anything, but for a good few days after such an injury he really shouldn't be able to walk.

As others have mentioned it seems strange that he would have progressed to sprinting so soon after groin surgery though. Doesn't sound right to me.
 

Scott Spur

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My personal view is that we look at this cold hearted and realistically...do we want to buy someone who is currently injured and, according to this link, the full extent of which is not yet known..?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40952115
If I were Levy I would walk away from the deal and look elsewhere....let Koeman have the problem. Hard hearted maybe but my concern is for the future of Tottenham not Ross Barkley and we need to buy someone fit and available now. I do feel sorry for the lad but there's no room for sentiment or sympathy when you are having to spend tens of millions of pounds on players in order to improve the squad. This saga has dragged on for long enough.

Understand what you're saying but two points....
1) "do we want to buy someone with an injury to an extent as yet unknown?" Of course not, you assess the injury and then decide, why walk away now?
2) injury hasn't been the reason for the saga, that's just this week.....the Gylfi deal and maximising the transfer fee was the main reason this was always going to drag on.

The club won't move on this without that being taken into account.
 

Makkaveli101

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The only thing is, if any of our higher wage paying rivals feel they need to strengthen in January...or are under pressure to do so...I feel they could usurp us to his transfer then.

If we could seal him for 25m now I think we could secure 4-5 very, very good years from him...whilst taking a 2-3 month hit now.

Plus, a severely reduced January transfer fee means they'd be able to offer him an even fatter signing on fee/wage etc.

I don't want to take that January risk. We've been burnt before. Barkley fits the Pochettino ethos to a tee. We've seen the wonders Poch has worked with our English players.

We need to get him secured.
 
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Ben1

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If the price is sinking in January anyway, hopefully we try that value now as i'd rather he was in our care after the way he seems to be rushed back previously. But I have no idea about these things.
 

Krule

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1) "do we want to buy someone with an injury to an extent as yet unknown?" Of course not, you assess the injury and then decide, why walk away now?

I totally understand where you are coming from too but the people currently assessing his injury are Everton not Spurs...I fully appreciate other circumstances causing this to be a 'saga' but nevertheless the whole thing seems extremely protracted. I just think Levy should perhaps use the current situation as a massive bargaining lever and get the lad hopefully cheaply by giving Everton an ultimatum..... (£20m tops) or walk away.
 
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